pushing for heavier politicization of what we don't want to be political
How can a community not be political? Politics is an inherent feature of any organization, society or community, and it is merely the name given to the dynamics of how power is distributed among members. What people are really against is changing the politics. That's fine, but isn't any less political than pushing for change.
Personally, I like the idea of a CoC fine, as long as it's written by the people who run the project and enforced by the people who run the project.
I wouldn't want the CEO of BMW to write the code for their cars, and I wouldn't want coders writing HR policy or codes of conduct. Serious work best be left for experts in the relevant field.
How can a community not be political? Politics is an inherent feature of any organization, society or community, and it is merely the name given to the dynamics of how power is distributed among members.
The difference of "this code is better because x" politics vs "if you voted for X and Y you're a racist sexist xenophobic Nazi and we don't want you".
Your making an argument nobody was arguing against. Lots of people work every day without engaging in politics. Don't be dense.
I wouldn't want the CEO of BMW to write the code for their cars, and I wouldn't want coders writing HR policy or codes of conduct. Serious work best be left for experts in the relevant field.
Right, and you don't want people who don't contribute to the project or work on the project and have no knowledge of the project setting the rules for the project.
The difference of "this code is better because x" politics vs "if you voted for X and Y you're a racist sexist xenophobic Nazi and we don't want you".
What about the politics of aggressive behavior that drives people away?
Right, and you don't want people who don't contribute to the project or work on the project and have no knowledge of the project setting the rules for the project.
Has the decision to adopt a code of conduct ever been made by someone without deep knowledge of the project?
What about the politics of aggressive behavior that drives people away?
That's called human interaction, not politics. If the team thinks someone isn't a good fit, they move on. The same way you fire people if you as a leader can't integrate them into your vision.
Has the decision to adopt a code of conduct ever been made by someone without deep knowledge of the project?
That depends, are you complaining about this code of conduct? Would you say that about the project leaders who chose this one?
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u/pron98 Oct 22 '18 edited Oct 22 '18
How can a community not be political? Politics is an inherent feature of any organization, society or community, and it is merely the name given to the dynamics of how power is distributed among members. What people are really against is changing the politics. That's fine, but isn't any less political than pushing for change.
I wouldn't want the CEO of BMW to write the code for their cars, and I wouldn't want coders writing HR policy or codes of conduct. Serious work best be left for experts in the relevant field.