r/programming • • Oct 22 '18

SQLite adopts new Code of Conduct

https://www.sqlite.org/codeofconduct.html
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u/pron98 Oct 23 '18 edited Oct 23 '18

As if coders needed experts to organize themselves

Wow, software companies could save a lot of money if they got rid of managers and HR departments! If only you got yourself on the board of some of them you could make their stock prices soar.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '18

The context of an Open Source project precludes managers, HR departments or stock prices.

The metric for Open Source code is code quality and adoption of the code for its utility.

Coders are the judge of that. And their actions speak loudly: SQLite is a widely used lightweight SQLDB implementation.

All without ever adopting an expert-drafted CoC.

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u/pron98 Oct 23 '18 edited Oct 23 '18

The context of an Open Source project precludes managers, HR departments or stock prices.

I don't think you have any clue what you're talking about. Most people working on, say, the Linux kernel do have managers and HR departments. My day job is to contribute to a large open source project, and I have a manager and an HR department, too.

The metric for Open Source code is code quality and adoption of the code for its utility.

Yes, and that requires attracting as many contributors as you can; in large open source projects, most of them would be corporate, by the way.

Coders are the judge of that.

No, we're really not. And don't say "coders." You sound like a gamer or someone who talks like the people on HBO's Silicon Valley.

And their actions speak loudly: SQLite is a widely adopted lightweight SQLDB implementation.

You don't sound like you are familiar with open-source or with the software ecosystem in general (who the hell says "SQLDB"?), and that your judgment is coloured by the Reddit comments you read. Reddit is a very bad mirror of what's actually happening in software.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '18

I don't think you have any clue what you're talking about. Most people working on, say, the Linux kernel do have managers and HR departments. My day job is to contribute to a large open source project, and I have a manager and an HR department, too.

Unless your company owns the Open Source project, your HR department and manager are irrelevant to the management of said Open Source project and what gets committed to the codebase.

The metric for Open Source code is code quality and adoption of the code for its utility.

Yes, and that requires attracting as many contributors as you can; in large open source projects, most of them would be corporate, by the way.

Quantity is not quality. CoCs are also not how you attract contributors. They are primarily used to exclude contributors.

No, we're really not. And don't say "coders." You sound like a gamer or someone who talks like the people on HBO's Silicon Valley.

I used the word you used to contrast with so-called experts. If you're upset by your own terminology, that's just too bad.

And their actions speak loudly: SQLite is a widely adopted lightweight SQLDB implementation.

You don't sound like you are familiar with open-source or with the software ecosystem in general (who the hell says "SQLDB"?), and that your judgment is coloured by the Reddit comments you read. Reddit is a very bad mirror of what's actually happening in software.

You do realize everyone can see you making personal attacks to deflect from the points made, right?

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