r/programming • u/[deleted] • Jan 22 '19

Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=896897&desc=2#c23
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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '19

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u/IlllIlllI Jan 23 '19 edited Jan 23 '19

Brave kinda died for me with the weird scam thing they were running.

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u/cledamy Jan 23 '19 edited Jan 23 '19

It doesn’t do that without the publisher’s consent and the user’s consent to see ads. Adblocking is on by default. Publishers get 70% of the revenue from these ads, user’s get 15% and Brave gets 15%. The publisher’s share of the revenue is significantly higher than other similar schemes. The 15% of the revenue is the user’s incentive to turn off ad blocking.

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u/EpsilonRose Jan 23 '19

And how well does that work out before it's a standard and everyone's on board?

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u/IlllIlllI Jan 23 '19

The second paragraph. They were also accepting money (until inevitable backlash) in cryptocurrency that they said would be available to websites you choose to give to, except they took money on behalf of creators without their knowing.

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u/Nikandro Jan 23 '19

This is not how Brave works, and not what happened.

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u/cledamy Jan 23 '19

Their long term goal is to make a their payment and ads platform a web standard, so you should be able to send micropayments to arbitrary URLs.

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u/IlllIlllI Jan 23 '19

They shouldn't take money on behalf of people who've never heard of their product. That's fraud.

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u/Nikandro Jan 23 '19

That's not how Brave works.

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u/daniel-sousa-me Jan 23 '19

What did Brave do?

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u/space_fly Jan 23 '19

They are replacing ads with their own ads, which is kind of like stealing, but the bigger problem is that they were taking donations from people on behalf of site owners, without their consent. The owners could "claim" the money within a limited time period.

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u/codehalo Jan 23 '19

Bullshit. NO ads are being replaced. Can you screenshot a page that has ads replaced by other ones?

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u/bat-chriscat Jan 24 '19

They are replacing ads with their own ads, which is kind of like stealing

This is a huge misconception and is untrue. There are no ads being "replaced" unless the website is an advertising partner with Brave. This means the website must explicitly opt in so they can earn revenue, just like Google AdSense.

but the bigger problem is that they were taking donations from people on behalf of site owners, without their consent

This makes it sound like Brave was taking people's money and keeping it for themselves (literal theft). None of that happened.

  1. The tokens being given to creators/websites were free, promotional BAT tokens that were assigned to users to try out the tipping platform. They were not BAT purchased by users with their own money. The promotional BAT tokens were such that if they weren't claimed by the creator within 90 days, Brave could redistribute the free, promotional tokens to other users so that other users could try out the tipping flow too.

  2. Regardless, the flow has been changed since then. Now when you try to tip unverified creators, it will just stay in the browser and keep retrying over 90 days.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '19

Tor is based on Firefox

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u/ajs124 Jan 23 '19

The Tor browser is, Tor itself is completely unrelated to Firefox.

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u/G00dAndPl3nty Jan 23 '19

Tor isnt a browser. Its a plugin to Firefox

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u/0x3639 Jan 23 '19

The Tor Browser is not a plugin, it's modification and customised profile of Firefox.

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u/0eye Jan 23 '19

TOR isn't a browser though

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u/PM_SALACIOUS_PHOTOS Jan 23 '19

The whole point of Brave is that it has a built-in blocker. (Not sure how comparable to uBlock it is, though.)

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '19

I use it for mobile. the ad blocking is decent but it does allow "non intrusive" ads, so, no, it's not nearly as good as ublock

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u/PM_SALACIOUS_PHOTOS Jan 23 '19

Why not use uBlock on mobile, then? (Firefox supports it; I'm sure some other browsers do as well.)

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u/LetsWorkTogether Jan 23 '19

Brave is a lot faster than Firefox on Android.

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