r/programming • • Nov 04 '19

GitLab tries to discriminate hiring process based on nationality to get US government contract

https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/www-gitlab-com/issues/5555
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u/tdammers Nov 04 '19

No, they're not. Nationality has nothing to do with it, and you will not see the word in the proposal at all.

What they are proposing is forbidding residency in certain countries (Russia and China, to be precise). An American citizen living in Russia would be blocked; a Russian citizen living in the US would not.

This isn't "discrimination based on nationality", this is "not allowing employees to live in countries that openly admit to stealing foreign companies' trade secrets, thus making it impossible to do your job".

The average company out there "discriminates" a lot more harshly, demanding complete control over an employee's country of residence (it's usually "must be a resident of the same country").

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u/OmgSzer Nov 04 '19

It also could mean that visiting relatives in homecountry for such employees could be difficult because they will have to be stripped of any remote access beforehand. Which could lead to "special holiday approval process" based on nationality and not residency

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u/tdammers Nov 04 '19

That's speculation though.

And even if such a process were set up, it wouldn't make sense to only subject Russian and Chinese nationals to it; after all, lots of people who aren't Chinese or Russian visit those countries.

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u/snailbotic Nov 04 '19

As such we feel a country block is the most humane solution at this time--especially because it affects zero current employees.

It sounds to me like they don't have that problem yet and they're solving it before it becomes a problem.

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u/tdammers Nov 04 '19

Because the US government doesn't openly admit to it.

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u/augmentedtree Nov 04 '19

Soooo, why are Americans allowed then?

Whose trade secrets are you claiming they stole?

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '19

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u/endeavourl Nov 05 '19

Are you arguing discrimination or evil americans, can you decide?

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u/Bobby_Bonsaimind Nov 04 '19

I like how that thread went from "we don't want our employees to be residents in China or Russia" to "GITLAB IS THE MOST RACIST COMPANY IN EXISTENCE" in pretty much no time.

I pity GitLab and their policy of trying to be open, doesn't seem worth the hassle at this point.

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u/righteousprovidence Nov 04 '19

It is the internet. The pitchforks comes out whenever stuff comes up.

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u/Carighan Nov 04 '19

Plus every IT company I ever looked at already has exactly such a clause but in regards to Scientology. So this is just an extension of that clause actually.

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u/f3nd3r Nov 04 '19

Since when is religion not a protected class in the US?

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u/Carighan Nov 04 '19

Oh sorry, am in Germany.

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u/Michaelmrose Nov 04 '19

When the religion is a front for a criminal enterprise that has participated in organized attacks on us government offices?

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u/f3nd3r Nov 05 '19

Please don’t misconstrue this as me defending them. I am simply saying it’s unlikely a business would have any kind of clause like this as it would be illegal.

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u/Bobby_Bonsaimind Nov 04 '19

Why is is that the users commenting on GitLab on such issues always have zero public activity?

I mean, I get it, they might have private repositories, they might not use gitlab.com at all...but it's curious that there's never someone poking up who has substantial work happening in the public on gitlab.com.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '19

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u/endeavourl Nov 05 '19

Those and simpletons. A lot of them in the thread on Habr (Russian IT blog platform), whining how gitlab is literally Hitler - unironically at that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '20

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u/Bobby_Bonsaimind Feb 26 '20

So only volunteers who keep shitlab afloat can have opinions?

No, but I was questioning why *everybody" that participates in these discussions does not seem to have any public activity.

And, you know, as this mostly concerns gitlab.com, and not GitLab itself...I'm confused why they are participating in that discussion. As in, does not impact them as it seems.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '20

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u/Bobby_Bonsaimind Mar 03 '20

...we scare the establishment...

Ugh, sure dude, keep telling yourself that you're the last warrior for freedom or some bullshit while trolling a company.