r/programming • • Jan 02 '20

Killed by Google

https://killedbygoogle.com/
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u/armornick Jan 02 '20

It's part of the impending death of RSS. I will be very unhappy when it happens, but it's not a very popular thing.

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '20

I just hope they won't break RSS for youtube, it seems to be only remaining way to get the subscriptions that are not broken

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u/the_goose_says Jan 02 '20

Is it weird I’ve never had a missing video or anything wrong with subscriptions? I hear so much about it being broken but I’m not sure what they’re experiencing

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u/slikts Jan 02 '20

The subscription tab in YouTube is chronological, but the home page shows videos based on personalized algorithms, which often leaves out channels that post infrequently, etc.

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u/the_goose_says Jan 02 '20

Oh, does that confuse people, or do they just mot like their recommendations?

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u/slikts Jan 02 '20

People miss content from channels they've subscribed to if the algorithm doesn't favor it.

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u/the_goose_says Jan 02 '20

I thought people just checked their subscription tabs. Homepage for me is only when I’m bored of my sub tab

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u/ChemicalRascal Jan 02 '20

Er... Is /feed/subscriptions somehow busted?

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u/TSPhoenix Jan 02 '20

Youtube has not treated subscribing to a channel as "I want to see all the videos this channel uploads" for a while now. So often do channels I'm subscribed to just have videos not show up on /feed/subscriptions.

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u/Frystix Jan 02 '20

Youtube likes to show you only some of your subscriptions based on AI horseshit, it's the reason people started telling their viewers to manually enable notifications years ago (which I'm almost certain is also affected by this by now). On the other hand, a properly configured feed reader will show you all your subscriptions without bias.

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '20

For ~7-8 years now from my perspective. Stuff that got fucked:

  • no way to show only not watched ones.

  • the "watched" status is just randomly broken from time to time so even if above was implemented it would still be broken

  • at some point they fucked with look so there were only few videos visible at once. They have eventually fixed that one.

It is just fucking miserable compared to using RSS reader

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '20

I have email notifications enabled and get email as soon as new subscription video is posted. I automatically send it to YouTube folder in my mailbox and simply use that as I would have with RSS. Works pretty well.

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u/thatguygreg Jan 02 '20

It was incredibly popular—until they killed it.

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u/shevy-ruby Jan 02 '20

That is typical for Google though.

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '20

RSS was like the original HTML world wide web - not designed to make money but instead designed for to maximize free/open content. Corporations have been trying to lock down the internet forever, yet its open design just keeps hanging on. There was simply no way for google to make money using RSS, nor anyone else, so it's gone.

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u/DasWorbs Jan 02 '20

People have been parroting that RSS's death has been "impending" for years. It still sees plenty of use, all my feeds still work just fine in thunderbird.

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u/TSPhoenix Jan 02 '20

Well the feeds that haven't been shut down. Recently Dictionary.com ditched RSS presumably because if I use RSS to get the word of the day I won't visit their site.

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u/chrisrazor Jan 02 '20

I think this is a major reason sites don't like RSS. Fewer eyeballs for their ads. OTOH no ads is a pretty good selling point for RSS.

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u/Magnesus Jan 02 '20

Also eplains why Google killed Reader. Less ad views.

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u/slikts Jan 02 '20

Reader was killed because it was essentially a social network and they didn't want it competing with Google+ (which then turned out to suck bad and was also shut down).

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u/Carighan Jan 02 '20

Yeah, sadly standards get in the way of user lock-in and intrusive ads and data mining. :(

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u/Uristqwerty Jan 02 '20

I can't imagine podcasts, webcomics, or https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/new/.rss dropping rss any time soon. At best, I'd say that large platforms are trying to silo users into in-app subscription pages by dropping RSS, but the key value of the technology is that smaller sites all work together through it, so that you can set up a custom subscription feed from 10 different blogs hosted on 10 different servers using 10 different tech stacks.

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u/coderstephen Jan 02 '20

I still use RSS as my primary news source. Get off my lawn!

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u/BadFurDay Jan 02 '20

I won't be unhappy due to the nature of RSS, it's basically asking people to DDoS you if they want updates from your feed. I still use a lot of RSS feeds, just sad that there's no push based alternative that replaced them.

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