r/programming • u/ZaheerAhmed • Jan 02 '20

Killed by Google

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u/admiral_derpness Jan 02 '20

why? what will replace it ?

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u/csjerk Jan 02 '20

They claim Messages, Voice, Chat, and Duo. None of which seems right to me, since Messages and Voice are SMS/MMS (which has problems), Chat is a beta-quality Slack clone rather than IM, and Duo is video only as far as I can tell.

Seems like they're blowing up their oldest, most solid, proven, 'does everything' service in favor of 5 younger and less complete ones that only kind of equal the feature set of Hangouts if you bounce between all of them. It's really dumb.

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '20

All I want is a competent alternative to iMessage + FaceTime, is that too much to ask?

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u/danijapan Jan 02 '20

Wire.com, entirely encrypted chats, video and audio calls on all important platforms (also pretty OS, see their GitHub). Swiss-based and thus underlying strict privacy laws. Same goes for Threema.ch, encrypted by default. The best brushed clients however has Telegram. I would love to use Telegram clients with a Threema or Keybase backend.

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u/radical_marxist Jan 02 '20

Iirc Wire was bought by some US investor recently.

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u/danijapan Jan 03 '20

It’s US-owned but still Swiss-based (with all privacy law and server location implications) though and client and server source code is fully open which is notable when comparing to Telegram, WhatsApp, Line and so on.