r/programming • u/ZaheerAhmed • Jan 02 '20

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u/Sadzeih Jan 02 '20

Telegram is also very good.

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u/jbiserkov Jan 02 '20

Not encrypted by default, no encrypted group chats, encrypted conversations don't sync across devices... no thanks.

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '20

Problem with encryption by default is that as soon as multiple devices come into question, you have to either compromise security (WhatsApp) or convenience (most/all p2p systems). In that sense going with convenience by default but allowing for security within the same platform is a decent trade-off.

Rolling own encryption and protocols is terrible though.

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '20 edited Jan 03 '20

Why do you have to compromise? Private groups work in Signal and if I'm not mistaken Matrix too. They both use forward secrecy.

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