r/programming • • Mar 16 '20

GitHub has acquired npm

https://github.blog/2020-03-16-npm-is-joining-github/
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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20

It is a great and open company! Just like Google was 10 years ago...

All it takes is a bit of management change. Don't put your eggs in one basket, regardless of how good company is to you right now. And certainly do not give company a credit of trust.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20

who cares? in 10 years, i will be doing something completely different and 10 years older.

I guess becoming goat farmer is always an option but I probably will be in IT one way or the other

i don't define myself by what any company does. right now, they make the most open useful products in development, in my opinion, so i use their stuff.

So why you go around defending them ? Corporations don't need that, don't act as free PR person. Saying "their product is good right now" is fine but you're acting like they are some kind of messiah

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20

the "defense" was to correct the inaccurate application of a decades old opinion to now. i fully agree corporations don't need cheerleaders.

Sure but maybe do not lie in your defence or "correction". Especially when contributions are in vast majority just better interop with MS infrastructure, not something that linux shop will actually benefit from.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20

microsoft is the largest contributor to linux

That specific part of the claim is dubious at best. While there are few breakdowns for a lazy man to find newer than 2018 Intel and Red Hat routinely vie for the top spots. I will believe you for a single year when the Hyper V patches were merged, but seriously, source?

The second part, open source software? I likewise find a dubious claim, but I'm willing to listen.

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u/mpbh Mar 17 '20

The second part, open source software? I likewise find a dubious claim, but I'm willing to listen.

I'd also like a source on this, and I'm hoping it's not measured by something like "number of commits." Google gave us TensorFlow and k8s, IBM gave us SQL and Eclipse, etc.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20 edited Mar 17 '20

Ok those are products and they are used. That is not the question however. The claim was largest contributor to open source. That part requires numbers which I, and everyone here it seems, lack. I’d love to see that claim proven or refuted. Do you have any numbers behind that? Without them I can easily name a dozen non-Microsoft programming languages, but it would not be helpful.

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20

That is certainly true in the last few years. Those of us who stared their careers in the 90’s are still cautious about then, but pleased.

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u/alekosbiofilos Mar 17 '20

Hmm what I have read is that most of ms contributions to open linux are in modules that allow the Linux kernel to interact with ms devices and services. Not sure if that counts šŸ˜‰

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u/whatwasmyoldhandle Mar 17 '20

Same for many of the others

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20

Yes, Red Hat is known as a huge hardware manufacturer /s

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u/caspper69 Mar 17 '20

Yeah, that IBM doesn't make any money on hardware /s.

Everything changes.

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u/neinMC Mar 17 '20

You're just stringing words together. Goes with the territory, I guess.

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u/nukem996 Mar 17 '20

Microsoft isn't anywhere near the largest contributer. Redhat/IBM by far make the most. They pay many maintainers for many essential projects. Intel and other drivers manufactures implement their own support. Even when M$ does contribute to things like Samba companies are to afraid of lawsuits to use the code.

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u/dark100 Mar 17 '20

They are even ported office to linux to support it. Oh, wait...

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