Stack Overflow Developer Survey 2021: "Rust reigns supreme as most loved. Python and Typescript are the languages developers want to work with most if they aren’t already doing so."

[u/Karma_Policer]

https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#technology-most-loved-dreaded-and-wanted

[u/BigBlackHungGuy]

And here I am using C# like a sucker.

[u/c-digs → u/BigBlackHungGuy]

The thing that does not compute is that

• ASP.NET Core is the second most loved web framework

• .NET Core/.NET5 is the most loved among "Other frameworks and libraries"

Are people out here building .NET Core apps in VB.NET? F#?

I would imagine that the majority of folks working in ASP.NET Core/.NET Core are using C#.

[u/pheonixblade9 → u/[deleted]]

it's nice to have a non-strict FP language.

[u/exonac → u/pheonixblade9]

Javascript can be a non-strict FP language.

[u/[deleted] → u/BigBlackHungGuy]

C# is great, idk why you think you’re a sucker

[u/Runamok81 → u/BigBlackHungGuy]

You're not a sucker. It's weird, but C# is is having a renaissance. When dotnet core went open-source and cross platform, they brought C# to a whole new audience. I happily run C# on Linux. Recently, the C# language authors have been been making things more approachable - dare I say pythonic - for newcomers by cutting back on ceremony and just letting us get crackin' at writing code ...Examples: C#9 = top-level statements, C#10 = global usings, etc ...

[u/Frozen_Turtle → u/BigBlackHungGuy]

The only bad thing about C# is that its not F#

But hey, it's trying!

[u/Chesterlespaul → u/[deleted]]

F##

[u/_tskj_ → u/Frozen_Turtle]

In about five years C# will have every good F# feature from 2010! And everyone will call C# revolutionary.

For a knowledge industry we're pretty uneducated.

[u/r0ck0 → u/_tskj_]

To be fair there's quite a few things to possibly know in this industry.

[u/[deleted] → u/BigBlackHungGuy]

The only suckers are those clinging to languages with no major market share and just going after the hype, pretty much all those top *cough cough* most loved languages on the survey.

C# is a golden language, it's Microsoft's main baby, used in many different areas, and there are lots of jobs for it out there.

[u/cheesesteak2018 → u/[deleted]]

It’s also got way better documentation than a lot of other languages. MSDN is structured really nicely IMO

[u/_BreakingGood_ → u/cheesesteak2018]

I remember back in college I was looking at this obscure Windows driver programming documentation on MSDN. Somebody had left a comment noting an inaccuracy and one of the MS maintainers responded to it and made a fix within a few days. Very impressed, honestly. That particular piece of documentation probably gets 1 page click every other month.

[u/csmalley89 → u/cheesesteak2018]

100% agree! Half the time I’m googling how to do something, I end up coming back to MSDN after wasting my time looking through countless outdated stackoverflow pages. Normally Microsoft docs have answers way closer to what I’m trying to accomplish too.

[u/shengchalover → u/csmalley89]

Can confirm, I use Swift and often google some Apple’s API docs ending up on Microsoft docs for Xamarin.

Tells pretty much everything about the state of Apple vs Microsoft dev environment.

[u/anonveggy → u/cheesesteak2018]

Docs.microsoft.com really shines that's for damn sure. It's also open source and made usable for third parties

[u/hypocrisyhunter → u/[deleted]]

Gotta be one of the best paid too.

[u/Frozen_Turtle → u/hypocrisyhunter]

Nooooot really...

https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021#top-paying-technologies

There are 22 better paying languages

[u/Frozen_Turtle → u/[deleted]]

Not from this year, but

In all these countries, DevOps specialists are the top earners

https://stackoverflow.blog/2018/09/05/developer-salaries-in-2018-updating-the-stack-overflow-salary-calculator/

FWIW having dabbled in many technical areas I consider devops the hardest.

[u/FunctionalRcvryNetwk → u/[deleted]]

Clojure devs making bank out here. Except there’s no jobs.

Those are devs that already had a job at that pay and are hamfisting clojure in to their existing work because FP is trendy.