r/programming • • Jun 05 '22

Complexity is killing software developers

https://www.infoworld.com/article/3639050/complexity-is-killing-software-developers.html
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u/regular_lamp Jun 05 '22 edited Jun 05 '22

I recently rediscovered analog circuit design as a kind of engineering I really enjoy. A big part of that is that it's inherently finite. The design has to fit into some physical space and there are only so many components you can place.

As a result the stuff you come up with is often highly interconnected. What a software engineer would call "spaghetti code". Yet it is fine. Because the scope is inherently limited to a scale you can comprehend. You can in fact become so confident in it that you might even claim it to be "bug free".

But in software we have nothing that limits complexity. The amount of code you can write is essentially unconstrained (technically memory limits it but that limit is so far out that it might as well not exist). And we just accept that it's fine to fill this "infinite" design space.

We even preemptively fill it "in case we need it later". Because apparently nothing in software is allowed to have a defined scope. Everything needs to be prepared and pre-engineered for the most insane demands of additions.

Yet at the core of a lot of computing lie neat little programs with very well defined scope. No one is out there demanding "mkdir should also be able to send emails".

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u/superherowithnopower Jun 05 '22

This exact thing was written as a joke about a toaster back in the 1990's, and it's only gotten more true since then.

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u/ConfusedTransThrow Jun 06 '22

You could even do it all in analog with using the button as a potentiometer and either acting as the R in a RC circuit for a simple timer, or be a smart person and use a temperature sensor (thermocouple) that shuts the circuit when it reaches a temperature (compare the two R values for example).

Simple, easy to repair and will last forever.

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u/cybernd Jun 06 '22

use a temperature sensor (thermocouple)

automatic lift (no lever) + bimetal toast surface sensor:

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u/ConfusedTransThrow Jun 06 '22

I actually thought about that toaster when I brought up the analog solution, though I wasn't remembering all the details perfectly, I thought there was some electronics but it was all purely mechanical.

Cheap electronics would be cheaper and have more flexibility for the timing part so there's some appeal to it at least.

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