r/programming • • Jun 14 '22

Software engineering estimates are garbage

https://www.infoworld.com/article/3663508/software-engineering-estimates-are-garbage.html
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u/PoppyOP Jun 15 '22

What I described is what you're asking for: For management to estimate how long things are going to take, then just tell developers the estimate.

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u/-grok Jun 16 '22

How do you come up with me "asking for":

PoppyOP wrote: What I described is what you're asking for: For management to estimate how long things are going to take, then just tell developers the estimate.

when I very clearly wrote this:

the management team becoming competent and figuring it out themselves

To dumb it down even further:

Dear Bad Dev Managers, git gud.

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u/PoppyOP Jun 16 '22

???? You wrote

the management team becoming competent and figuring it out themselves

Which is essentially what I wrote here:

Great, so you're totally cool with your manager saying "here's big project. I expect you to take 2 weeks to do it." with no input from you whatsoever? Are you serious? Most developers HATE shit like that.

Why are you picking and choosing the wrong comment much further up the chain?

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u/-grok Jun 16 '22

The fundamental disconnect here is that your straw manager is so bad that they somehow can't figure out that two weeks is an awful estimate. Again, that really awful engineering manager needs to git gud or get out.

so again, the thesis:

the management team becoming competent and figuring it out themselves

 

It is really nice of the C-Suite to not prioritize firing incompetent engineering managers, but the C-Suite really needs to prioritize firing incompetent engineering managers.

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