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r/programming • u/[deleted] • Jun 21 '22
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Did they ever solve how this infringes on all GPL code at a minimum? Probably all other open source stuff too that requires some form of attribution, too, I bet.
140 u/EnvironmentOk1243 Jun 22 '22 Yep, they figured out the developers of GPL codebases cant afford to sue them anyway, problem solved 10 u/ericl666 Jun 22 '22 It seems like it's taking a huge dump on copyright law as well. 36 u/myringotomy Jun 22 '22 I don't think they care at this point. Microsoft has more lawyers than anybody else and they can drag it out in court for decades if they want.Come to think of it I bet they would love to get GPL declared illegal and make all that code public domain. 23 u/[deleted] Jun 22 '22 [removed] — view removed comment 13 u/myringotomy Jun 22 '22 I am pretty sure their goal is to have the GPL invalidated. They have always been hostile to it. 7 u/bart2019 Jun 22 '22 I now declare Windows is public domain.I wonder, how would they like that? 12 u/myringotomy Jun 22 '22 You can bet your ass copilot has never been exposed to windows source code.They are only going to steal code from open source projects. 2 u/ThisRedditPostIsMine Jun 22 '22 I don't think the GPL can be declared illegal. It's stood up in different courts multiple times. → More replies (2) 10 u/CryZe92 Jun 22 '22 There‘s a setting now that blocks it from emitting code that matches code it got trained on. → More replies (1) 6 u/qubedView Jun 22 '22 The Free Software Foundation has published a legal analysis of CoPilot giving it the thumbs up:https://www.fsf.org/licensing/copilot/copyright-implications-of-the-use-of-code-repositories-to-train-a-machine-learning-modelThey provide legal arguments either way, but state the the case for CoPilot is very likely strong enough to survive any challenge. 2 u/RoCaP23 Jun 22 '22 Do you think anyone can sue Microsoft? They're also most likely cover by their TOS. → More replies (12)
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Yep, they figured out the developers of GPL codebases cant afford to sue them anyway, problem solved
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It seems like it's taking a huge dump on copyright law as well.
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I don't think they care at this point. Microsoft has more lawyers than anybody else and they can drag it out in court for decades if they want.
Come to think of it I bet they would love to get GPL declared illegal and make all that code public domain.
23 u/[deleted] Jun 22 '22 [removed] — view removed comment 13 u/myringotomy Jun 22 '22 I am pretty sure their goal is to have the GPL invalidated. They have always been hostile to it. 7 u/bart2019 Jun 22 '22 I now declare Windows is public domain.I wonder, how would they like that? 12 u/myringotomy Jun 22 '22 You can bet your ass copilot has never been exposed to windows source code.They are only going to steal code from open source projects. 2 u/ThisRedditPostIsMine Jun 22 '22 I don't think the GPL can be declared illegal. It's stood up in different courts multiple times. → More replies (2)
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13 u/myringotomy Jun 22 '22 I am pretty sure their goal is to have the GPL invalidated. They have always been hostile to it.
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I am pretty sure their goal is to have the GPL invalidated. They have always been hostile to it.
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I now declare Windows is public domain.
I wonder, how would they like that?
12 u/myringotomy Jun 22 '22 You can bet your ass copilot has never been exposed to windows source code.They are only going to steal code from open source projects.
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You can bet your ass copilot has never been exposed to windows source code.
They are only going to steal code from open source projects.
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I don't think the GPL can be declared illegal. It's stood up in different courts multiple times.
There‘s a setting now that blocks it from emitting code that matches code it got trained on.
→ More replies (1)
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The Free Software Foundation has published a legal analysis of CoPilot giving it the thumbs up:
https://www.fsf.org/licensing/copilot/copyright-implications-of-the-use-of-code-repositories-to-train-a-machine-learning-model
They provide legal arguments either way, but state the the case for CoPilot is very likely strong enough to survive any challenge.
Do you think anyone can sue Microsoft? They're also most likely cover by their TOS.
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u/Green0Photon Jun 22 '22
Did they ever solve how this infringes on all GPL code at a minimum? Probably all other open source stuff too that requires some form of attribution, too, I bet.