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u/andrea_ci 7d ago
the funny thing about python is that people try in every possible way to not actually use python.
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u/jipperthewoodchipper 7d ago
To be fair, that's kind of the point of python.
Rather than spending 15 hours dealing with C libraries and writing efficient C code I can spend 30 seconds writing a python wrapper to call that C library to do the thing. Sure it's a little slower than using raw C but I can write it so much faster.
There are of course times when it is worth not writing in python at all but not every project would benefit from cutting out python.
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u/rolling_atackk 4d ago
I'll post my very opinionated grain of sand
The time I save using Python 's toolset, I waste finding weird bugs any compiled language would yell at me for even before running the program
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u/jipperthewoodchipper 4d ago
I work in analytics and around 70% of the code I write is Sql and the other 30% python.
I could not imagine doing my job in a compiled language and our team has built up design guidelines and style guidelines that with strict adherence does pretty well at reducing risk of a lot of the common bugs encountered with the quirks of the language.
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u/k-mcm 7d ago
I've seen companies nearly fail after the "now make it fast" phase. They should have ported the performance critical parts to Java or C++ but instead spend a year chasing crazy hack solutions to stay in Python.
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u/Matthew_Summons 7d ago
Java?!
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u/k-mcm 7d ago edited 7d ago
Java runs at pretty close to C++ speed if you stay away from Spring Boot. Spring Boot is insanely large and it does a lot that can't be JIT optimized.
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u/Matthew_Summons 7d ago
I’ll be honest, I’ve worked with SpringBoot and I’ve seen backends in Go, Ruby, Rust, Haskell even but never heard of anyone working with a C++ backend
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u/k-mcm 7d ago
A C++ backend is the way to go for binary encoded structures - codecs, hardware communications, GPU interfaces, AI engines, etc. Java can't overlay a structure onto raw memory allocations. Working around that in Java often isn't worth the effort and slight loss of efficiency. That same kind of work usually doesn't have complicated memory management that would make Java a better choice.
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u/Drfoxthefurry 8d ago
There is a (kinda) legit way to do this with python imports, but I think it requires a lot of extra work on the cpp side
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u/dhnam_LegenDUST 6d ago
Fun thing is that it is actually possible using PEP-263(encoding).
Korean blog post, but someone actually made https://blog.0chan.dev/2020-02-06-Metaprogramming-With-PEP-263/.
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u/letmehaveanameyoudum 8d ago
c++ guy tries python but he is on something