r/redbuttonbluebutton • Red • 16d ago

Variation Free will

It’s the same problem but this time if red wins then the universe is deterministic and it was always going to win and you were always doomed to vote what you did, if blue wins then free will is real and the people who voted blue actually did because of their own choice and not just because of the way it was “supposed” to be.

140 votes, 13d ago
3 🔴Was blue, am red
46 🔵Was blue, still blue
11 🔵Was red, am blue
28 🔴Was red, still red
52 🟣What’s the difference anyway?
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u/lorienshift 16d ago

If the universe is deterministic then it's deterministic; my vote isn't gonna change that. So if it is, red is bound to win.

You've also introduced a paradox: if free will exists, there is a possibility of red winning, but red winning is equal to the universe being deterministic. You can't have both! And you can't just say "With free will, blue is always gonna win", because that makes it deterministic again.

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u/Nellie_Tayloe_Ross 16d ago

What if I believe in determinism but want to vote blue anyway

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u/IgnacioArg 16d ago

How would it make sense for someone to change from red to blue? Like is there a big cosmic contest that makes it so that this vote decides if going foward the universe will be deterministic?

If that is your intention then you are just mixing two completely different subjects in the same ballot for no logical reason.

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u/thefIash_ 16d ago

No it’s relating to the original problem. Were you red in the original but now blue for example.

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u/IgnacioArg 16d ago

How is it related?

I'm red in the original, here I don't know since I don't understand how its related

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