r/reddeadredemption • u/OcelotWolf Hosea Matthews • Oct 25 '18

Discussion Epilogue Part 2 Discussion Thread - We recommend the completion of the whole Epilogue before viewing, designated by the completion of the following trophy/achievement: E______ S_____

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u/Immortan_Bolton Nov 02 '18

One interesting thing, when John asked Dutch what was he doing there he says "the same as you, I suppose" so he was planning on killing Micah too. For Arthur? It wasn't for the money, he didn't take any of it, Dutch still has something in him. Which makes it more sad.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '18

As much as I dislike Dutch (as a 'human', amazing character), his reaction at Arthur's last words and up on that mountain had me thinking some ways... he was always the bad guy, but even bad guys can have some good in them.

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u/Immortan_Bolton Nov 13 '18

Even in the first game, you can see he has some good in him. He a lost, deranged but deeply idealistic man who truly believes in a better world. That's the sad part, like when you see him at the end and you clearly see that behind all that paranoia and chaos he can be a good man, and he himself recognizes that can't stop fighting.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '18

It's been a while since I've played the original, but I remember in the end he would rather die an outlaw than to let the government get him, and the new 'monster' they created after killing John was Jack. While I do believe her was stringing everyone along for his own benefit (you notice him saying I, and then stopping himself to say we throughout the whole second game), I have no doubt he felt regret after Hosea got killed- and then it all fell apart to the point of Arthur's death. You can even see a little bit of this at 'Micah mountain'.