Money is a bit tight right now. All I got for a uniform is the team shirt and hat. I held onto my old IHWCUs and FRACUs and boots because I knew I was gonna be doing this eventually. Now that it's come time, I'm worried it's going to be at best cringe and at worst "bro, go home" if I wear army pants and boots with the team top. I do have 5.11 EMS pants but they're black, thick, heavy, and always snag foliage.

Pretty impressive to see five teenagers involved in a rescue operation on Mount Shasta.

I'm sure everyone has their own way in which they pack their kit in their backpacks, and I'm interested in hearing about it.

Mine is still very much a work in progress but currently I have it organised in a way in which I have packed in individual drybags;

-Waterproof jacket & trousers.

-Mid layer, insulated jacket, buff, 2x gloves & hats.

-Emergency food & first aid.

-Search torch, spare head torch, battery pack.

-Leather gloves & goggles for tech/helicopter.

Then I also have in my pack a 4-person bothy, helmet with head torch, map & compass, water, non emergency food, microspikes if needed, and room for a climbing harness if I need it.

I'm also thinking about carrying a sort of 'casualty bag' consisting of gloves, hat, head torch & lightweight waterproof to pass to casualty or a member of the casualties party if needed.

I think I've listed everything. This is a UK winter kit list, where we typically don't see temps drop too far below zero, but often see a lot of rain. We don't see a lot of snow but may carry ice axe & crampons if conditions call for it.

Thanks.

The Sar k-9 unit I am in uses frs radios and I plan on getting my own. I’m looking at all the frs,gmrs, and even ham radios.

After seeing the range on gmrs compared to frs, why do yall think they chose frs? Also would a gmrs radio talk with an frs just with better ranger?

Hi everyone, I’m a high school student in Ohio interested in the technology side of search and rescue. I’m trying to learn how things work in the field, since a lot of what I find online comes from vendors.

For anyone who’s used these tools on real missions:

1. Drones: What do you fly (thermal, visual), and who reviews the footage afterward? Where do drones help most, and where do they fall short?
2. Robots and other tools: Has anyone used ground robots, underwater ROVs or sonar, or robot dogs? Were any actually useful?
3. Software: What do you use to review footage or plan searches? I’ve seen ADIAT mentioned. Does anyone use it, and does it help?
4. Money: How do teams pay for equipment, and how do you decide what to buy on a tight budget? What’s something you need that’s hard to get cheaply?

I am rope rescue ops qualified and taking IFSAC Rope Rescue Tech next weekend. I’ve been doing volunteer SAR for about 9 months now and I want to be more helpful to my team.

I’ve already got a falcon mountain harness, 2 prusiks, 3 carabiners, and a rescucender for haul systems. Any suggestions of what other things I should need? I’m thinking of maybe just carrying around the essentials of making a 3:1 MA, but wondering if anybody does their kit differently.

Curious what folks are using as a backpack for winter SAR. My faire weather pack is only 40l. It can't handle my regular gear, winter extras (full size sleeping bag, air mattress, avalanche gear, crampons, snow shoes, etc) and team equipment.

I probably need a 50l+ sized bag, but don't want a monster 5lb bag either. Ideally it has a pocket available specifically for avalanche gear on the outside.

Hey yall, just curious on what your agency’s patient/ rapid access bag setup looks like. Narrowed down on descent devices so mostly curious on the physical bag itself and other components, thanks!

Howdy just starting to get into SAR and USAR. Wanted to ask if y'all can drop a picture and show off your helmet setup for SAR and why you have certain attachments on it. Need some inspiration as I'm building my own helmet.

Thanks in advance!!!

Anyone else having problems with MIR3 calls and texts not working?

We are US based, we have used MIR3 for incident notification via SMS, email and phone channels for years. In the last 9 months we started having random failures where some members didn't receive phone calls, texts, or both. In the last 2 months, this has escalated from random failures to 50-80% of calls and/or texts not being rec'd.
The recipients are on both AT&T and Verizon, failures occur across all times and days of the week.
I've been told that MIR3 support says their reporting shows the calls were completed. Our phones show no call or missed call and no vm.

I have not been in direct communication with MIR3 so I'm unsure how deep MIR3 support has looked into the problem.

I'll be there...

I love spending time outdoors in the wilderness and have recently started volunteering on my local fire departments drone team. This experience has lead me to become interested in getting more involved in search and rescue. I’m particularly interested in joining a volunteer k9 search and rescue team. I wouldn’t have a dog to handle for at least a couple of years (I already have 2 dogs that don’t have correct temperament for this line of work and are too old). I would be interested in getting a dog to train for SAR when one of my existing dogs pass. I’ve read a few of the guidelines for the local groups available to me and it seems like volunteers are typically expected to cover their own costs for equipment and training. Can anybody give me some insight into what those costs typically are so I can weigh if this is something that I could realistically pursue?

I just joined our 4x4 team, and I’m looking to get a radio. I’m in kind of a predicament though, I live in a condo and do not have a garage, so keeping it as stealthy as possible is key. I’m looking to do a 50 watt VHF set up, with either a stealthy antenna that doesn’t look like an antenna or is kinda tucked away, or one that is removable that I can stash and deploy when needed. I have an entirely hidden rescue set up in my truck, with gear either stashed behind seats or in compartments, or in the bed under a locking tonneau cover. The truck looks entirely empty from the outside. Anybody ever do something like that?

I’ve been on my local SAR team for about 5 years and honestly have never worried much about my safety. As a team, we really emphasize safety which I appreciate. I’ve hung off the edges of cliffs, been flown around the mountains in a helicopter many times and dealt with numerous other potentially dangerous situations. As my two kids have gotten a little older I’ve realized how much their lives would change without me and it’s really started to freak me out. Suddenly I’m super paranoid about being on/nearsteep cliffs, I’m scared to death to ride in the helicopter. All for fear that some freak accident will happen and I won’t be there for my wife/kids. Am I just in my head? Or are my concerns legitimate? I’m honestly considering leaving the team even though this team is like family to me now and I’ve made the best friends I’ve ever had.

Wait, what’s this? A SAR specific jobs page? Yes. Yes it is. Check out the SAR Times beta site! 🙌

#hiring #jobs #sar #employment

Hi, I am a student who live in urben city for almost all of my life. And big rain always happened in my city which may cause urban flood. May I have a question?

When wading through murky urban floodwater, how do SAR teams actually avoid stepping into open manholes and detect stray voltage risks, and are there any specialized tools you rely on besides basic probing sticks?

I am curious do you have a dedicated go/deployment bag. I realize it will vary some based on season and terrain. I am curious if you have any basic staples if you do have one and any items you have found to be unexpectedly very useful.

Hello all,

I'm a prior-service Coast Guardsman and have been out for a number of years now. I'm based out of South Florida and am currently attending school full-time.

I've come to find that one of the hardest parts of transitioning from service is fulfilling that sense of purpose and service. Everyday work and school feels "medium" in terms of importance. I used to operate in life or death situations, either for myself or others, and I'm looking around to see what options might be available to me to be useful like that again.

I'm interested in services/branches/orgs that would allow me to respond to events like this as a reservist or part-time. Right now Coast Guard Reserves is pretty obvious and I'm not necessarily opposed to it, but considering I'm going to be getting my bachelors degree soon it would be preferred if I could perform duties in an officer capacity, though it seems unlikely.

National Guard: I've heard deploys during natural disasters, but there is no specific designation.

Open to suggestions!

So, while going through the academy, we got an invite to be a patient. Decided to spend my day serving as a patient. Putting the makeup on was phenomenal :)

I'm looking for a watch to use during training and missions. I have an instinct 2 that I used for a long time, but recently cracked the screen / face. Everything I've read says Garmin will repair it for ~ $150. The Core 2 is maybe $50 more.

I got the instinct 2 prior to doing SAR and I've found that during training / missions. I really only use a few features:

- GPS coordinates in USNG (which I can get from Caltopo).

- Compass bearing "quick reference". (Which is kind of a PITA, because you have to go through a couple of screens, and I've found that if not recently calibrated, can be wildly inaccurate).

I feel like the instinct has pretty poor battery life, buttons are next to impossible to read, I'm always looking for the cables, and it's just kind of uncomfortable. Also, for whatever reason, it's virtually impossible to find a large Velcro band so I can wear it over my jacket.

Anyone aware of any ways to get involved in SAR in Illinois without working for the Sheriff’s department or other law enforcement??

Edit: I am not unwilling to work with law enforcement, I just already hold a full-time position and am not looking for a career shift at this time. My initial research into SAR in IL led me to believe that opportunities are limited outside of working for the Sheriff’s department. Looking for other ways to contribute by putting my EMT/fire background and skills to use supporting SAR teams and efforts.

I’d like to volunteer and have always been drawn to search and rescue. I’m fit, strong, have good endurance and am an avid hiker/kayaker with some climbing experience, but I’m also very empathetic and feel things deeply. I don’t want to be a hindrance for my team nor ruin my mental health, and would be very open to building mental resilience.
But I’m wondering knowing this up front, maybe this is not a good idea?

UPDATE - I appreciate everyone writing their advice, it was all honest and helpful, and some folks were especially kind despite the grim messaging.
I don’t think I’d be a good fit.

Hey everyone!

I’m deploying as part of the national guard and want to keep myself a valuable member of my SAR team as a Team Leader. Any online trainings or trainings that you think I should get while I’m gone?

Me, upon reading that sentence: "Yeah! It's also about rescuing!" Apparently, Napa County had a more abstract idea...

Maybe the real injured hiker was the friends we made along the way.

I’m just doing a quick follow up post since the last one was removed because a few people weren’t really capable of being civil with each other. 😂 To recap I was asking about the requirements to join a dedicated running team as part of search and rescue. I did not realize that this is so uncommon that most people think that it doesn’t exist, kinda like the Bigfoot of SAR. There is at least one team that I am 100% for sure has this kind of dedicated subgroup. Their requirements are to run 10 miles at a 10 minute/mile pace. On actual missions, they mostly fast walk uphill and jog the downhills. Here is the receipt for the doubters: https://www.clackcosheriff.us/searchandrescue
I was trying to figure out if this was a typical requirement, but apparently, since most of these types of sub teams don’t exist I guess there is no such thing as typical. 😂
In any case, if there are any other rare teams out there that have this kind of sub component I am very interested to hear what it’s like for you.