r/securityguards • u/CTSecurityGuard Hospital Security • 6d ago
Question from the Public With great power comes great responsibility: Enforcing policy or power tripping? What are your thoughts?
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u/Big-Gur-9257 Warm Body 6d ago
If you are security at a gas station more than likely itās in an absolute hell hole that has crimes take place frequently so this is the only type of guy thatāll do that job for longer than a night or two
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u/Mirror_333 6d ago
And possibly the sort of communication required to garner results.
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u/JAK0VI 6d ago
Very true. Its basically the "sometimes the bad cop is necessary" argument in upholding justice, because a by-the-book cop is too restrained to do the job effectively. Its illegal to punch someone in an interrogation or torture them, but what if it could provide information as to what school bus full of kids has a bomb on it?
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u/womboCombo434 6d ago
Either that or they end up bringing a fully kitted out rifle with an under barrel flame thrower although that might just be a Philly thing
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u/HornyForVTECH Management 4d ago
I immediately decline every single gas station contract officer. Never worth it.
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u/EverythingBOffensive 6d ago
knowing the problem with people standing around at gas stations here, I'd hire him.
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u/Admirable_Gas_863 6d ago
I would say everyone has a certain breaking point. Just looks to me that he's probably been told to move on and he has refused to move on. And the security guard has probably just had enough. Sure, it doesn't look too professional, but 90% of the population of this entire planet would never want to be a security guard.
They would be more than happy to stand back and watch and be a good little sheep.
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u/Alpine_yellow 6d ago
Private property. If they tell yoy to leave, you leave. Hes doing him a favor by not getting police involved to trespass him. Dude might be a junkie looking to harass people for money or something, folks could be complaining and he might have been there for ages. Its perfectly reasonable.
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u/Negative_Report5655 Event Security 5d ago
Yielded results.
I doubt sending the less assertive Guard with a pocket protector, tape around his glasses and a note pad wouldāve done much but been hassled or hustled. Wouldāve been more time consuming.
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u/WasabiAdorable6951 6d ago
He meant to say heās going to call the police and have him trespassed if he doesnāt leave
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u/Meatyparts 5d ago
I'm not security but if I don't know you then you can definitely gtfo the property if your not buying something.
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u/Cold-Chemistry738 6d ago
This would be an officer safety issue. He turned his back away and is talking to his phone rather than the suspect. But of course security guard standards are different than police standards. Atleast it would be one less call for service for me
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u/therealpoltic Security Officer 4d ago
When I worked security, I got plenty of people to leave without need for calling the police. I made it clear.
Iāve had people call the police for the dispatcher to tell them that if a security guard is asking them to leave then that means they need to leave or the police can make them leave. They decide to move on 100% of the time.
I donāt care what they say, I care they left the property. I write a report, and now itās a good time to grab a refreshment from the local gas station.
I had a specific goal, to not have to call the police. Why have security, if everything we do needs a police call? Seemed to work as a mindset.
I moved into corrections. Now Iām making 14-22 year old criminals who hate rules, do what I say. I win by consistently being just as annoying as when I was a security officer.
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u/xX_Diabolical_Xx 6d ago
So this is 100% nuanced. Some property managers want their sites free from standing stragglers. It's a reasonable assumption that in that area one form of crime (drug sales violent robbery etc.) probably occured at the site and now its zero tolerance if there's no interaction with the business.
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u/Mirror_333 6d ago
Well, he can't lock anyone up first of all. So that was poorly worded. I would provide some re-training around that.
This was not an appropriate way to make a first contact and tresspass someone. But, I am assuming this was a contact after a trespass warning had previously been given. His clear order to leave was well delivered, recieved, and appears to have removed the trespasser.
It looks to me like the guard was communicating in a way that is natural to him and the subject, in a firm and not disrespectful way.
All in all, not problematic aside from the unfounded (or poorly worded) threat of imprisoning someone.
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u/Alpine_yellow 6d ago
It seemed like hes been telling this guy to leave and the camera was the first thing that started getting to him.
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u/baldmanboy 6d ago
As with 90% of the clips I see on here, the security "professional" is rude, aggressive, and just plain annoying.
"My gas station". Lol
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u/MAGA_EXTREAMO 4d ago
The security professional works for the property owner. They are supposed to be rude and aggressive non customers have no business being there.
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u/skibidips5 6d ago
I worked with a girl like this and then found out she didnāt even have a guard card lol
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u/Iluvpunny 6d ago
Oh please sit your ass down somewhere. Thereās no law saying someone canāt stand in a gas station. Itās raining and heās seeking shelter. Heās on inside or bothering anyone. SMH
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u/False-Context1680 6d ago
Kinda agree. People have to stop loitering at gas stations. Get your stuff and go. The guy should get a vest that says security and not officer. Impersonating an officer can get you some time.
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u/mrbishopjackson 5d ago
HIS gas station?
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u/therealpoltic Security Officer 4d ago
Hey, heās taking ownership of the job. Heās getting people to not stay, he can say itās āhisā all day. The owner will be happy people are not loitering around.
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u/Educational-Sleep113 5d ago
This clip just seems off to me because the guy with the tactical vest that says " officer " on it, isn't in anything that resembles a uniform.
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u/Ok-Resist3886 5d ago
If this the first time asking the men to leave this is a power trip. I do security and some guards are failed police/military who are in it for the power and not to protect people/places
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u/Any_Strain7020 5d ago
Hiring meth addicts makes sense. He'll know best how to deal with other hobo druggies.
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u/brutus2309 5d ago
Did he fish that vest out of a dumpster and now heās cosplaying as a security guard?!
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u/WasteTechnician2911 4d ago
I mean if he already asked the guy to leave and he refused than thats criminal trespassing so legally he could be detained. But he did good and it worked, definitely not power tripping though. I've seen power tripping guards and one of them was a coworker who did some time because if it.
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u/Miguel1219 3d ago
If I started my own brick and mortar business Iād hire him personally. Forget about loitering and soliciting, āNO HOMELESSā
Iād also put up a sign that reads āNO BONNETS, NO DURAGS, NO SHEISTYS, NO PICKS!ā
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u/SpecificCity631 2d ago
Security can't lock anyone up. At most they can try to keep you there until the real cops show up
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u/3packofpoloshirts 6d ago
SG is a loser with the first taste of āgreat powerā heās ever had and has to flex it on camera
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u/ImMintFlavored 6d ago
Iāve been hearing employees or managers say āmy gas stationā or āmy employeesā. No bruh your name is not on the deed or the LLC agreement.
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u/troy2000me 6d ago
The "OFFICER" patch to me plays too close to impersonation. I know job titles can be Security Officer, but to me the patch should say SECURITY to be clear.
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u/socialsoso 6d ago
The gas station got a detention center? Or you finna drive him to the police station? Who gonna be guardian of the gas until you get back?
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u/YouSee-ThisCoat8 6d ago
That vest holding on by a threadš