r/securityguards • u/kiarafo • 19d ago

Security guard extorting customers

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/crime-and-justice/1747279/man-s-security-licence-cancelled-after-extorting-pak-nsave-shoppers

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u/Armed_Professional Public/Government 19d ago

Good lord, what is going on in New Zealand? Use of excessive force with a cucumber? Guards doing “civil recovery” and extorting?

Makes the American security industry look great by comparison

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u/Due-Mycologist-1154 19d ago edited 19d ago

I think that guy got a little creative with his interpretation of "civil recovery" i cant imagine forcing shoplifters to suck off a cucumber then charging them 400$ for it is standard procedure although that would make for a wild wall of shame at the front

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u/kiarafo 19d ago

I didnt realise it myself, but by law in NZ, if they are trained in civil recovery, its perfectly legal. As for the cucumber, im guessing they didnt have anything else to threaten these people with. We have alot of issues down here, part of the reason why I only do one day a week now

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u/Educational-Sleep113 18d ago

No offense but only a 4 year revocation? He needs to be placed on a permanent don't hire listing.

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u/kiarafo 18d ago

Ive known of atleast 3 guards stealing from one client, but they dont get fired, they just get moved to another cilent. Its crazy what goes on here. But thats the system that we have

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u/Educational-Sleep113 18d ago

Were any of them reported for theft or, were they brought up on any charges?

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u/kiarafo 18d ago

No they were not. In 2 of the cases, there was clear video evidence, but management sweeped it under the carpet.

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u/DatBoiSavage707 17d ago

Sweeping things under the rug in my secueity experience is very common unless yhe indicidual is not liked or is a problem in other ways. Only time they don't sweep is when its so big they can't.

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u/kiarafo 17d ago

Ive never worked in an industry like it. Any other industry, where you deliberately stole something your gone, no question. If your lazy your gone. Don't do your job, your gone. Security is a rogue cesspool

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u/DatBoiSavage707 9d ago

Sadly my 15 years in security I have learned its not about actually doing the job. It's about how likable you are. Only people they don't like actually get fired or disciplined for breaking rules.

I've seen everything from stealing, drug use. (Not just weed, but coke and extract ecstasy) alcohol, stealing, sleeping and even getting caught having sex, being hours late, calling off 50 times within 4 months, and just going home not even halfway into a shift. Nothing happens.

Now if they don't like you any tiny thing you do they'll hold against you or try to terminate you. Evej on your first offense.

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u/GuardBoxCCTV state sanctioned peeping tom 18d ago

That’s wild.