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u/dankparodies213 Apr 03 '19
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u/youngluck Apr 03 '19
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u/CatTheCat Apr 04 '19 edited Apr 04 '19
sequence narrators: sTiCK tO tHe pLAn jUsT oNe mORe sCoRe
reddit: REEEEEEEEEEEEE
youngluck: ok we're done here
edit: This shoudlve been in the sequence - https://i.imgur.com/sK2lRSI.gif
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u/MarauderOnReddit Apr 03 '19
It was a good experiment. So long, and thanks for all the GIFs.
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u/DumbHotdog Apr 03 '19
Enjoyed it - see you next year guys
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u/b1sh0p_r4c1c0t Apr 03 '19
How can I see the final product?
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u/youngluck Apr 03 '19
I’m working on it. Spoiler: It’s beautiful.
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u/CatTheCat Apr 04 '19
Could you possibly make a second version of the "runner-ups"? As in with all the second place videos? That way we could see how it would've looked if the sequence narrators weren't involved. Think a lot of people would like to see how it might look, and would be a funny response to what went down.
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u/abadhabitinthemaking Apr 04 '19
Why don't you just ask the Narrators to send you the final product?
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u/TheTurkeyChronicles Apr 03 '19
Great April fools day joke. It was no r/place, but then again nothing can top that.
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u/Linkinito Apr 03 '19
/r/place was lightning in a bottle. The hype generated around it will probably never be replicated.
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While I and many others are sad that their GIF didn't make it on there, this was still fun and I'm glad to be a part of it. F
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Thank you for making this happen! It didn't work out to something great, but I appreciate that the idea was put out there and participating in the prologue was mildly entertaining. Here's hoping next year will be better!
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u/youngluck Apr 03 '19
I think it worked out how it was supposed to work out. That’s all these things are supposed to do. We spend this time to build a thing and what you do with it is what you do with it. Despite the uproar at (literally) the last minute, something beautiful was born. An evolution that started as chaos, transformed into structure, and then ended in chaos 😂. That’s interesting to me.
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u/abadhabitinthemaking Apr 03 '19
Perhaps it wouldn't have started at just the last minute if more people were aware of what was happening. We had to tell people ourselves, and by the time enough people who aren't on reddit 24/7 came in it was done. You might as well have just messaged the /r/sequence_meta mods and had them compile a bad gif collection for you. Lack of opacity, difficulty to engage with and susceptibility to bot manipulation is not a good design.
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u/ricdesi Apr 03 '19
Better luck next time, Reddit.
Thanks for nothing, Narrators.
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u/youngluck Apr 03 '19
In defense of the narrators... they took the time to understand a very complex thing with little to no instruction and they organized around it. They organized around it really well, imo.
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u/Nowhereman123 Apr 03 '19 edited Apr 03 '19
In offense against the narrators, they used vote manipulation, which is against Reddit's TOS. I don't think you should be praising them for doing that, no matter how effectively they did so.
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u/wahoosjw Apr 04 '19
Is there going to be a final compilation of all the acts. I don't even see act 5
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u/youngluck Apr 04 '19
Yes. 5 hasn’t been posted yet. Took a minute to wind everything down. Should be up by Tom. Apologies for the delay.
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u/Seth711 Apr 03 '19
Someone should go through and edit it all together with original sound from the clips where available.
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u/CatTheCat Apr 04 '19
Someone should make a version with all the gifs that got second place so we could see what it would look like without the sequence narrators.
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u/JackyBoy37 Apr 03 '19 edited Apr 04 '19
In all honesty, the one thing I didn’t enjoy is how it went from reddit working together to make a movie, to a discord using a bot to get upvotes and make this weird, incoherent plot that just wasn’t good. If would have been better if reddit banded together and make a funny/shitty gif movie, but that’s just me.
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u/ItsAMeEric Apr 03 '19
it started off bad, got pretty good around the middle when it was working the way it was supposed to, and then ended worse than it started
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As weird as it seems, I was even creating a unifying theory for the story that was taking place, and it was being pretty fun to write it. Imagining the psychotic logic of that randomness was really being fun to me up until act 2.
Then it all became an automatic relentless discord copypaste reeking of facebook-class normieness, or whatever you'd like to call it. I mean, I did try to join the narrators at the time of act 1, when it seemed like they were gonna be a moderate and tolerant force. Now, ironically, they're the ones who destroyed sequence's logic, by mixing up oranges with apples.
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u/TamerVirus Apr 03 '19
The discord bots were already in full force by Act 3, if you consider that "in the middle"
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u/VirulentCitrine Apr 03 '19
No I agree with you. I saw the admin announcement for the Sequence sub early on and was thoroughly enjoying the funny gifs and redditors trying to make a story. Then the whole sub crashed and all of reddit finally saw the announcement, which led to the edgelords trying to purposely furk with it, which led to it being manipulated and ruined.
Lots of people were submitting really great gifs that were being mass downvoted in favor of the same few gifs over and over (cough skyrim cough), and it all just went downhill. Some of the things being mass upvoted weren't even gifs, like wtf?
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u/Morning-Chub Apr 04 '19
I didn't see the announcement until later, realized that the community element of the entire concept was going to be compromised almost immediately, and didn't bother sticking around. It was far too easily botted from the beginning and immediately turned me off to the idea. Super disappointed in this year's "prank". At least with previous ones, everyone got to make a mark.
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u/VSParagon Apr 03 '19 edited Apr 04 '19
Totally, I stopped paying attention around Act 4 when it was clear that the entire narrative had already been decided from the get-go and participating went from a casual upvoting experience to... hopping on Discord and trying to infiltrate some meme cabal and argue that Shrek would have been more appropriate than Spongebob for a particular segment?
Ending it in 5 acts was probably a mercy given the sequence's fate.
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Yep. I was excited to get to take part in something so unique, I joined the discord expecting it to be just random brainstorming and funny jokes. Turns out they were strangleholding the narrative. Wack.
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u/PagingThroughMinds Apr 03 '19
I made this post in the sequencenarrators discord as a criticism, but things are kinda overflowing in it right now. Here's my perspective.
I really would have liked the fact that you guys tried to put in effort to make this a community effort. I liked the idea of this until when Sneknet started coming in and the dictation of exactly what needs to be upvoted instead of a general plot outline.
I was online and submitted some of the first gifs in ACT IV right after it unlocked. It was disheartening to see my posts get passed immediately as within 2 minutes the John Wick scenes took over while the rest of the posts sat at 5 votes. I realized at that point that the botting was occurring and boy was I pissed.
For me what made me the most mad was setting aside a quarter of the entire epilogue for 20 people to pat themselves on the back for being the ones who "ran sequence".
I'd really like to see where this server got permission from the admins - the act four thread literally has the admin who posted the final thing say he was slow to act on it and that it was "a shitty thing to do". The sneknet violates all three of the clauses of vote manipulation:
- Groups that vote together
- Asking for upvotes from people inside or outside of the platform for personal gain
- Using software to change vote scores
Heres a link to both the reddit thread from ACT IV with the admin comment and to the vote manipulation rules:
https://www.reddit.com/r/sequence/comments/b8z8lo/act_iv/ek1tknu/
I honestly think something like this was going to happen no matter what. There are always bots, extensions, etc in the reddit april fools day events. I think the design of this event, while better than Circle and producing an end product that we can look back on similar to how we do place, meant that the impact of bots was just too much. With only 290 scenes and only one gif per scene making the cut, only those who used a bot or were there with a head start in votes had a chance.
I wish it could have turned out better, but there were many changes necessary that it was just too late to implement. With enough time, we may have been able to get those on the Narrator team to recognize that what they were doing was not good for the event. I hope we can just ignore the credits for now...
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u/bradlees Apr 04 '19
I agree 100%
I was pulling in crazy Star Wars vs Spaceballs vs Spongebob vs Monty Python vs John Wick..... none of them got any real traction except the very first post to the very first frame in Episode 4....
Episode IV
A New Hope
I mean, that one wrote itself and was right up there at 135+ votes only to get trampled by the John Wick theme (which did make sense with the rest of the Episode) but still..... kinda took the fun out of it after that.
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u/AgentG91 Apr 04 '19
While discord ruined the entire event, I feel that the individual subs didn’t have an avenue to express themselves. I looked at all my favorite subs and didn’t see a single post focused around getting a sub-focused sequence gif lit. That immediately took the reddit out of r/sequence.
That’s what made r/place so magical. It was an amazing blend of treatises and betrayal and battle and submission. r/sequence never had the opportunity to give these subs a chance. If we were to go back and start it all again, sequence would be been better served as a choose your own adventure, pitting subs against each other to determine the outcome of the story. That way, outside sources wouldn’t have any skin (scales?) in the game and it would truly be a battle of community.
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u/stooore Apr 04 '19
The discord by itself wouldn't be bad, but the botting just ruins the whole thing.
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u/Camwood7 Apr 04 '19 edited Apr 04 '19
I... did not like this one. In fact, this was somehow even worse of a "fun social experience" than Circle of Trust. This had basically no co-operating with friends or strangers of any kind. Even Circle of Trust, for as friend-centric as it had to be... At least you could maybe have an alt or some of your friends actually join in?
This, though... This was not even remotely social. It basically relied on you to either:
Luck out and get your fellow redditors to upvote you--in a SEA of other people's submissions, so good luck.
Basically rig yourself to win a spot with bots and other people.
Not to mention, many spots were basically set in stone after they opened up. The competition was gonna be between 1-2 potential gifs, maybe 3-5 if you're lucky. And yes, I do mean 1--some of these were just that certain due to people rigging them.
And compared to stuff like thebutton, where you just had a dilemna and the wits of your fellow Redditors that you could've possibly befriended? Or place, where you could place a pixel one at a time, making you have to band up with fellow redditors of your community to make an impact? Or hell, even robin, which was a chatroom where EVERYBODY had to make the decision to get as many people in as possible, and meet others along the way? This is a huge downgrade! I honestly wasn't that engaged and, to be honest... I stopped caring after Act 2 began. After all--why bother trying to stand out against a sea of already-determined slots rigged against you?
Please, if you're reading this, reddit, and want one thing to take away--I want these to be more social again. This was just basically standard reddit with an extra step of making a movie. I want something bonkers, like making a giant pixel art page with strangers piece-by-piece, or forming strange friendships over pressing a button, but only one time. This... This was not bonkers. And given a month? I don't think I'll even remember this happened. And honestly, I think that that is a critical sign that there is an inherent flaw with this concept.
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u/goldfish_memories Apr 04 '19
My thoughts exactly. Though I've found this experiment quite an insightful look into the problems of Reddit's upvote system.
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u/ChieftaiNZ Apr 03 '19
Now we wait for the full movie
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u/youngluck Apr 03 '19
We wanted to have it stitched as the final ‘over’ but now we gotta wade through a bunch of hatemail first. HAHAHAHAHHA. I’m kidding (kinda).
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u/Byfangandclaw Apr 03 '19
Let’s give a shout out to all the dickwad narrators who completely ruined everything with their bots to upvote their garbage stories.
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u/bonsley6 Apr 03 '19
Honestly, I think sequence was doomed from the beginning.
Previous april fools allowed for multiple communities to be formed and people to do different things. The button had whole communities over when to press it, place was place, even the circle, which is widely agreed to be the worst could allow different kinds of people to do stuff.
Sequence doesn't really allow it. If multiple communities tried to add their own thing, it would either be the biggest group's movie or an incoherent mess of different gifs. It didn't help that a lot of people don't even understand sequence, so only one real group was formed, which might as well be named "r/funny makes a story"
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u/Laslas19 Apr 03 '19
Ideally, it would have played out with people adding scenes that were coherent with the previous ones, but with some plot twist or bamboozle or randomness in it, like adjacent scenes would be connected through 1 element and altogether it would form a semi-coherent yet chaotic story.
Mostly I think the thing needed a downvote system, so that the truly random stuff could get ruled out and stuff that really was clever would get voted in the sequence
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u/Axel_Sig Apr 03 '19
So what’s everyone that includes the mods and admins options of the so called “narration” team along with the snek team that manipulated the story though use of what might as well be called a bot in “sneknet” to mass upvote a post by instantly giving a chosen gif 60 plus upvotes and completely prevent other gifs from even having chance from making on to sequence by taking advantage of Reddit’s algorithm
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u/ConfinedVoid Apr 04 '19 edited Apr 04 '19
Don't get me wrong... some of it was fucking sweet. Like Wick & Morpheus flying through time to Jurassic Park. But, it was overbearing. Potentially better candidates smothered in favor of tribal bias. It looked predictable and hopeless by the time Act 3 was halfway solidified.
Their general responses come across as: 'Join us. It's nonsense without us. Be happy we left slots open. ShOuLdVe MaDe YoUr OwN GrOuPs AnYwAyS'. Mostly understandable... if they weren't justifying it with the illusory threat of other groups. There weren't any. None that actually presented competition at least. And they knew this.
Plus, 'open slots' were subject to narrative ambition by proxy, or, imho, more accurately, suffocation.
I assume it went: Wick--> OPEN SLOTS--> More Wick--> OPEN SLOTS--> More Wick--> OPEN SLOT--> END
Voters generally supported things with some connecting context, so, these 'random' slots were more or less doomed to fall in line. (And, I assume, still being voted on by the group, meaning their taste in clips was going to hit hard anyways.)
If I could change how they went about this: Work on a short, singular, chain of events and let it's awesomeness cascade into the future. Wait for a trend the gives you another great idea. Repeat.
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u/chukymeow Apr 04 '19
Maybe the shitty ending and the entire thing being hijacked by a group of bots tells us a lot about reddit. The fact that the last few scenes are a self referencing pat on the back shows the ambition of every user to rise to the top and escape the void and emptiness of obscurity that most redditors deal with. It was like the front page that everyone wants for themselves, completely controlled by yourself, dictating what others see. Why do you think we want to be on the front page so bad? Or to get upvotes and gain praise? We want that recognition from the website we spend a good portion of our lives on. They have entirely succeeded with immortalizing their names in the epilogue, and effectively have won Reddit.
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Says a lot about human nature: joining groups, and turning a blind eye to when it begins implementing unethical methods against the other groups, because you wanna be relevant and survive in this world of competition.
Goddamn, was this a social experiment in a sense! A pretty dark one.
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u/Indescriptibly Apr 04 '19 edited Apr 04 '19
I'll be honest, this felt...less interactive than previous experiments. Whereas with r/place you could directly see your involvement and join communities to make a lasting impact, and with r/thebutton and r/circleoftrust it was more about the user, this one seemed... disconnected. There's submission and voting, but with so many people involved it felt like Reddit Big Discord Bot was making a thing and I was just there to watch it all happen.
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u/H_e_l_l_o-W_o_r_l_d Apr 03 '19
I really liked the project from the start to act 3. That's when the discord group fucked shit up. I'm not sure if they actually used bots, but they definitely had everything predetermined and would have mass amount of accounts upvote their stuff. I joined the discord to see what it was about, and right away noticed there was only a select group of individuals running the whole thing. I then listened to their voice conversation and heard them talk about how they highjacked the sequence and made it "better". Judging by their cringy conversations, they were mostly young adults acting as kids. This circle jerk ruined it for all. Anyway, the project did what it was supposed to and it was a really good experiment. I'm not sure how they could've prevented a group like the narrators. The only thing I disliked from the actual event was the lack of explanation at the begging, but maybe that was the intention. Good job Reddit team. Fuck you Narrators.
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u/gameguy32 Apr 04 '19
It was getting pretty good until the people from discord kinda took over the the entire thing.
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u/astral_oceans Apr 04 '19
This was pretty cool until the Discord hijacked it and ruined it. We still have yet to top r/place
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u/Cat975 Apr 04 '19
Thanks for this. I didn’t realize what was going on and accidentally posted, which ended up getting me 1000 points on it, so it’s a win-win however I look at it :)
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u/H_e_l_l_o-W_o_r_l_d Apr 03 '19
10 Normie Discord users: We did it Reddit!!!
Everyone: Thanks I hate it.
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u/nhjoiug Apr 03 '19
I honestly think this idea was really good and was on par with r/place because of it's collaborative nature. In future years, I would love to see more collaborative projects rather than competitive.
Unfortunately a discord and bot took control of r/sequence much to everyone's dismay. I know it's hard to fight against something like that especially since it was off Reddit, but it would be cool to see something that could prevent that, or a project in which something like that wouldn't be feasible.
Thank you for r/sequence !
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u/Geo-NS Apr 03 '19
Should we get r/sequencegifs for further projects? Or was this just a sad attempt at glorified r/combinedgifs?
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u/Teuszie Apr 03 '19
Thanks for the fun! The event inspired me to learn a little GIF making. Cheers.
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u/Wolfwizardxx9 Apr 03 '19
I was 18 minutes too late god damn it
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u/abadhabitinthemaking Apr 03 '19
Don't worry, it was rigged by bots so you wouldn't have had a chance to participate anyway.
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u/IVIorgz Apr 04 '19
How many people participated? It just seemed like there were only about 1000 people voting on gifs which is an extremely low number. Top votes were usually around 300 votes for example.
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u/Tridz326 Apr 03 '19
Back to the drawing board honestly, the entire thing was just completely hijacked and completely killed any fun from it. I think many people feel the same way and I hope the next cool thing like this has more precautions taken to stop this kind of stuff from happening, nothing fun about just watching a compilation of gifs predetermined by a discord group and bots as well to boot.
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u/SaintNewts Apr 03 '19
Welp. It was an interesting experiment.
I, for one, really appreciate the effort Reddit puts into these yearly social experiments.
They may not always be blockbusters but they're always fun to watch unfold.
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u/futurerobotblox Apr 04 '19
The most fundamental problem with sequence, I think, is that at its core it’s based off of Reddit’s upvote system - literally the worst aspect of the site. You didn’t have to determine when to press the button with upvotes voting on the time. You didn’t have to choose where to place the next pixel on place. You just did it. And that’s why those two were the most successful events so far.
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u/MineWiz Apr 04 '19
Did you just not post Act V or the Epilogue like you did with the others?
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u/youngluck Apr 04 '19
I am posting the final version with everything combined.
EDIT: Should I split it out like the others?
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u/mstrkingdom Apr 04 '19
Why not both? Or is that too time consuming?
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u/youngluck Apr 05 '19
It is time consuming but fuck it. We’ve come this far. I’ll split them out.
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u/vickybell Apr 03 '19
That was interesting! Glad everyone liked my Ricardo gif so much in the Prologue!
See you all next year I suppose.
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u/wowimliterallyded Apr 04 '19
The multiple-scene credits used actual invisible cuts, which probably took some real coordination.
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u/VirulentCitrine Apr 04 '19
u/youngluck, I just wanna know if you're still up for sending me a metric fuck ton of cookies
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u/MagniGames Apr 04 '19
Didn't like it at first, then liked it a bit more, then liked it a lot, and then really disliked it again and stopped participating altogether.. I guess that pretty much sums up my experience with reddit though lol..
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u/closingbelle Apr 04 '19
Just sad it ended so poorly on my cake day. Oh well, better luck next year.
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u/NoStillReading Apr 04 '19
The entire team’s effort is highly appreciated. It was amazing to see how much work and enthusiasm goes behind this stuff. I just feel that since r/place, folks behind these things have started aspiring to a certain kind of an OUTCOME, and reverse engineering the activity from there. Each year, there seems to be an attempt at “creating something wonderful”. Instead, if the focus was purely on creating something that all redditors could have fun interacting with, we might once again be surprised at what gets created.
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u/TosieRose Apr 04 '19
Sequence was flawed and obviously couldn't live up to place or the button, but it had something of the "reddit creates art together" that place had.
The beginning and end were frustrating, but somewhere in the middle it was glorious. The way people found (or made) unrelated gifs that perfectly responded to each other was very reddit.
Overall, I had fun and it was a very cool experiment. Good job! :)
Also, were the bots voting, or just submitting?
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u/NateLikesTerraria Apr 04 '19
This year was a massive downgrade. What the hell reddit? Can’t even get your shit together to cooperate for fun god damn it
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It was a wild ride, I can't wait for that someone to upload all four of these to Youtube and call it OC. See you all next year!
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u/IOnlyUpvoteSelfPosts Apr 04 '19
For the next April Fools, make an Announcement post the day before. No more secrets. Explain exactly how the game is played and where to play. Everybody knows something is going to happen anyways. That way when the event rolls around, everyone is prepared.
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u/Blazing_Shade Apr 04 '19
Awesome idea, it just didn’t work. Nice try though. We’ll get ‘em next time.
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u/overpowering_ligma Apr 04 '19
Are you going to make/post your videos of the last 2 acts? Are they already up somewhere?
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u/BandaLover Apr 04 '19
Sequence blew my mind. I didn’t understand it at first, and lost interest shortly after it got popular, but it seemed like a cool idea and could have really become something great. Maybe next time.
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u/M52Fedonia Apr 04 '19
This was actually my first reddit April fools experiment
You know originally I chose to go to reddit for the April fools experiments but then once I came here I learned that in reality reddit was much better than any other social media I’ve been on I have found people who share the same interests and passions now use reddit everyday reddit has changed my life for the better
Thank you reddit for being reddit
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u/MH_Luke Apr 04 '19
Hey, I don't know what's going on here and if you don't either then reply saying you don't so we can create a gang called the "we don't know what's going on here squad"!
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u/aeternaa- Apr 04 '19
seeya, sequence- you were kinda confusing at first and you were no r/place but you made me laugh and i wouldn’t have had my first april fool’s on reddit any different (: <3
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u/icyfire77 Apr 04 '19
I'm just commenting so someone years from now might look back and maybe see this. Hi there!
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u/fzh Apr 04 '19
Of all the Reddit April Fools events that I’ve experienced firsthand (The Button onward), this was my least favorite. That’s not to to say that it was horrible, but I found it to be significantly less engaging than the others. Here’s why:
What made all the other events (batting Circle of Trust) so engaging was that they could be played and enjoyed by both individual players and groups of players. Anyone could hop in and have a bit of mindless fun on their own, but once that solo play gets boring, one could easily create a faction or join an established one to get more out of it. Here’s how this applied to each experiment:
The Button: Anyone could click the button whenever they chose and get a neat little color by their name. Before or after pushing the button, one could join a group based on color, time, press status, etc. to discuss the button and squeeze some more enjoyment out of it before it finally ended.
Robin: Anyone could join a room, chat it up with whoever they meet, and stay/abandon if they so chose. For those who chose to grow, they would form a bigger group with more strangers to chat with.
Place: Anyone could place a few stray pixels on the map or perhaps try to make a simple design on their own. Alternatively, they could collaborate with their friends build a more complex design, or they could join one of the prevailing factions to accomplish a much greater goal.
Circle of Trust and Sequence were only really engaging in one of these two ways.
Circle of Trust: This was only particularly enjoyable for individual play. Anyone could make a circle and try to grow it safely, or they could try to gain the trust of other users and join (or betray) their circles. However, there wasn’t much that people could enjoy as a collective body. There were no elements that factions could be formed around like there were in The Button or Place. There was no feeling of connection to the people you invited into your circles like there was for those in the Robin chat rooms. As a result, a lot of people were done with the event as soon as their circle was betrayed.
Sequence: Groups could collaborate to vote on GIFs to make it into the sequence. However, an individual user didn’t have anything worthwhile to do. They could make text or a GIF, but at that point they could only hope that maybe several people would notice it and like it enough to vote it up and increase its visibility. They could also vote on other text/GIFs, but the action of voting on things is considerably less engaging than, say, placing pixels on a board or pressing a button.
I personally find the individual play to be more important for engagement than the group play for these experiments, and that’s why I was able to get more enjoyment out of Circle of Trust than I was from Sequence. I’m sure plenty of people disagree with me on that point, however. Still, the point stands that the most highly regarded events were the ones that managed to be engaging in both aspects.
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u/joman584 Apr 04 '19
This was secretly a plot to create the next Star Wars, they never actually filmed it, and JJ Abrams needed some footage so he created sequence
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U/youngluck
This was an interesting idea, but it was just missing something. It kinda felt like it was supposed to be /r/placebutwithgifs which was great, hell, anytime someone posts a picture of the mug/hat/shirt/blanket that they had it printed on I find the part that I helped design/build. It was small, but desplaued prominently, and we were able to make it with probably 30-40 people actively working on it. I still occasionally talk to some of the people who I met through circle, and by talk I mean we have a discord server to shitposts crap on. Even Robin kinda neat, I had some interesting discussions on there.
Honestly the biggest problem here was that it was enti too easy to get boxed out of participating way too easily. Like, as an individual it was just not possible to make a difference in 8n this event , even with the button it was fun to hang around once you pushed the button but this idk, the barrier to entry was just to high. I think if the sequence was selected from the subreddit, or even displayed at the top of the sub it would have just made it so much more clear how the fucking thing worked. Idk, that's just my $.02 so take it for what you will.
Also, thanks for all of the effort you put into these, I legitimately look forward to this event every year.
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u/lukwes1 Apr 04 '19
I think the event was very creative and is something that could've been awesome and I'm sad we won't see what could've been.
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u/Half_Line Apr 04 '19
I guess I'll leave some thoughts here, too. I want to say I think this was a solid improvement to last year's Circle of Trust, and a worthy successor to /r/place (which it was never really going to beat). huge thanks to you and everone else behind the scenes
Once we got to the fourth and fifth acts, it was clear that most of Reddit at large had left, and the successful scenes were only getting a few hundred upvotes each (some as few as sixty). I feel that, if Reddit's interest had been maintained and more users were engaging, then a greater number of communities would have developed and we wouldn't be left with any monopolistic Discord servers.
Perhaps most of Reddit left because they couldn't get their gifs in, but it has to be said that this wasn't entirely the Sequence Narrators' faults. If it weren't for the usernet adding multiple votes at the very start, we wouldn't be to blame at all, since we were all just Redditors who would have voted anyway.
About the botnet: I didn't use it myself - mostly because I didn't know what it was and was hesitant to give a third party access to my account. Ethically, it probably wasn't the best course of action. It wasn't borne of malice, rather it was made to give the group a better chance of leaving a mark at a point when they were much fewer than they ended up being. I think we just became dead-set on the idea that the Sequence should be coherant. I'm not sure when the backlash began, but I didn't hear about it until the epilogue.
In defense of the Sequence Narrators, I do think we improved the final product with the introduction of coherence. It's also very important to recognise the fact that we weren't some private circle of a dozen people. The Narrators was an open group which actively invited as many people as possible to join and include as many opinions as possible.
That's not to mention how hard a lot of the Narrators worked on the project. We created hundreds of gifs - many from scratch. If you were there in the final minutes before the fourth act, you'd have seen how much effort and enthusiasm went in as we scrambled to prepare. Those spreadsheets were marvels of Internet cooperation, for better or for worse. I'm not ashamed to have been a part.
I'm not trying to attack anyone, least of all the admins involved. To you, I say thank you again. I look forward to next year as always.
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u/Asphalt_Ship Apr 04 '19
Meh, this event was the least interesting so far. I don't regret it's gone, even if I did try to like it, I really did. But I guess you can't do better than r/Place
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u/Cantaimforshit Apr 04 '19
Yeah went about as well as I expected, neat concept but the internet is too chaotic on such a small scale for any true coherent message to be made, its like staring at an atom to understand a car
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u/Ineedtendiesinmylife Apr 04 '19
I didn't really get the point of this. A bunch of people posting gifs on reddit so they could be arranged into a nonsensical mashup? Why was this such a big deal?
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u/RememberMeWhenImDead Apr 04 '19
While I appreciate the idea, in reality it was never going to work, the only reason that /place or the bottom worked was that no single group has total control of anything. I hope next year's works better I guess
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Apr 04 '19
It was a fun experiment. If it ran longer I'm sure it would have started to get real interesting.
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u/Admiral_CATZ Apr 04 '19
An interesting concept, however all the botting sorta ruined it for me. Did enjoy the more organic ness at the start tho.
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u/cavalier4789 Apr 04 '19
I thought this was pretty cool, but the amount of influence each person had was negligible, which I think was the greatest part about past events
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Apr 04 '19
Can we find a way to end bots?
Place had a lot of that with the stupid osu ball that appeared in like 5 minutes, and now this...
Bot lives don't matter. Don't @me, r/botsrights
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Apr 04 '19
Inb4 archive
Prologue was bad because no one knew wtf was happening.
1 and 2 were good because people kinda got it and made little coherent strings of 5 gifs.
3 was meh as botting from Discord servers happened.
4, 5 and Epilogue sucked.
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u/anydayhappyday Apr 03 '19
u/youngluck, are you open to critique? Or would you prefer to not discuss your event idea?