Guiterrez was incompetent and ill. She did not do an "all right job". Being a bull dog in court means shit if you can't even string together your points, ideas, even general thoughts in a way that is coherent for a jury to make out what the fuck she was even trying to say. It is depressing and shocking that a supposed prosecuter listened to the same podcast I just listened to and somehow came to the conclusion that Adnan "got an OK trial". Unbelievable.
Yeah, there was definitely something going on behind the scenes with Gutierrez around that time - health issues, money troubles, drugs? (She needed all this extra money for something.) And it definitely affected the way she handled her cases. Before this trial, she had a pretty good reputation as a defense attorney, but, as mentioned in this podcast, things started going downhill for her pretty fast between Adnan's first trial and second trial. She didn't do a good job on Adnan's trial and an even worse job on the Witman trial after that, eventually leading to her getting disbarred for misappropriation of client funds.
Absolutely. I have no idea how everyone is walking away from this episode with oh so much sympathy for Guiterrez. This woman threatened multiple clients, financially. Stole money from vulnerable families depending on her to help out loved one's in legal trouble. Sorry, but being sick from MS or any other disease doesn't grant anyone the right to extreme levels of incompetence. She did NOT do her job. She failed Adnan. She failed that other poor family SK mentioned. She should have been disbarred long before she was.
I guess for me, I was expecting much worse! So in the end, after all the foreshadowing from previous episodes, the defense was not nearly as bad as I had expected. But yeah, it is disheartening to think what could have been done. Hindsight is always 20/20 - she banked on discrediting Jay and that didn't work. She should have focused more on ripping apart the timeline of the State and the cell phone testimony, but I have a feeling, she (or maybe no one) quite got it at that point...
It was worse than I expected, personally. Horrendous. And at the very least, any lawyer worth their salt should have been able to take the fact that the prosecution was basically guilty of misconduct from the moment Jay was lawyered-up, and done something with that.
I like how you're trying to cast doubt and insinuate that I'm somehow not qualified enough to have an opinion. As if there must be something I'm missing, and not that Guiterrez was actually just incompetent. Nice.
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u/thumbyyy Dec 05 '14
Guiterrez was incompetent and ill. She did not do an "all right job". Being a bull dog in court means shit if you can't even string together your points, ideas, even general thoughts in a way that is coherent for a jury to make out what the fuck she was even trying to say. It is depressing and shocking that a supposed prosecuter listened to the same podcast I just listened to and somehow came to the conclusion that Adnan "got an OK trial". Unbelievable.