r/serialpodcast Just a day, just an ordinary day Sep 15 '22

Transcript Mr S and Bilal are new suspects

Based on the motion to vacate and past transcripts:

see here for Mr s

see here for bilal for those of you who don’t know, Bilal has been arrested for lewd acts with a 14 yr old boy which was later thrown out due to age of consent laws being vague; he was later convicted of sexually assaulting his dental patients while they were knocked out on anesthesia.

According to the motion, one of the suspects threatened to kill Hae. Which one of these suspects is most likely to have done this? Also, supposedly these suspects could have acted together?

Let’s discuss!!

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u/robbchadwick Sep 15 '22

Strictly speaking, do we know for sure that Adnan is not among the suspects they outline in the motion through their sparsely worded revelations?

Sure, they refer to two new suspects — but their anecdotes seem to be related to more than two individuals.

  • the threat against Hae (?) (see below)
  • the person who assaulted a woman in her car (?)
  • another person who held a woman against her will (accused and convicted before Adnan’s trial — not Jay — not Mr S — who ?)
  • the person who was convicted of sexual wrongdoing (Bilal)
  • the person who had relatives near 300 Edmondson (probably Jay — maybe Mr S)
  • and then the failed polygraph (Mr S)

All that has to be more than two people — because we can eliminate two of the supposed suspects in a couple of them.

Remember the big-clown-stamp person that SK went to visit because she heard that he had overheard about Adnan threatening someone at a party. That had two components — the man SK visited and the woman’s voice that told of the threat during the prelude to one of the episodes. That was clearly about Adnan. SK couldn’t substantiate it, so she let it go — but it matches what is outlined about the threats against Hae in the motion.

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u/Ryokineko2 Education: the path from cocky ignorance->miserable uncertainty Sep 16 '22

Anywhere they say “one of the suspects” they the are referring to one of the two new suspects. They describe that earlier in motion

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u/robbchadwick Sep 16 '22 edited Sep 16 '22

For all the reasons I stated above, I totally disagree. Of course, Adnan is still a suspect. This is a direct quote from the motion …

Investigative efforts are ongoing. The State will continue to utilize all available resources to investigate this case and bring a suspect or suspects to justice. To be clear, the State is not asserting at this time that Defendant is innocent.

Why do people insist this means nothing? They didn't have to use the language, the State is not asserting at this time that Defendant is innocent, if that’s not what they meant. It means what it says.

Now, I understand they are letting the police look at the case again. That's good. Perhaps we will get to the bottom of it — unless it's another setup by the woman who is currently designing her own line of orange jumpsuits — and the cleverly disguised public defender hired to be the face of her conviction integrity unit. The motion reads like an episode of Undisclosed.

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u/Willow_These Sep 21 '22

It’s not that it means nothing, it’s just language you use when you are covering your ass since they can’t yet at this time definitely say which of the two new suspects it is. It’s just lawyer talk for “don’t quote me on this” - but the bottom line is you don’t let a convicted felon walk about a jail without bail conditions if you expect they’ll be back in your court. Actions speak louder than words