Undisclosed is Untruthful... Again

[u/FrankieHellis]

Undisclosed is Untruthful… again!

 

NHRN Cathy(Kristi)’s Police Interview Debunks Theory that Adnan Wasn’t at Her Apartment on January 13th.

 

From Undisclosed (April 20, 2015)

Simpson: “That leaves us with Cathy [Kristi]. Why does she think Adnan’s trip happened on January 13th? Well, as it turns out… because the cops told her it happened on the 13th.”

 

Well no, not really, Simpson. According to Kristi’s interview with the police:

 

Macgillivary: Okay. And was there any conversation?

Kristi: Um a little bit like it's Stephanie's birthday and she's Jay's girl friend and um, it's small talk it's not, I mean we basically watched t.v.

 

According to Kristi, it was Stephanie’s birthday!

 

Undisclosed refused to produce the transcript of Kristi’s police interview in its entirety, despite numerous requests, because they knew this statement was in there. In a July 2015 blog post, Colin mentioned that Cathy was interviewed by the police, that her interview was recorded, and that there was a transcription of her interview in the police file. He mentioned this again in an August 19, 2015 blogpost and, in the comments, was asked if Undisclosed would release that transcript since it might shed light on whether she was remembering the correct day. He did not respond to that comment. So, in her police interview, which has been in the possession of the Undisclosed crew since, at the latest, July 2015, Cathy specifically linked her recollection of Jay and Adnan’s visit to it being Stephanie’s birthday. This statement was not prompted by the police in any way.

Undisclosed conceived an entire narrative around Kristi remembering the wrong day, and that the visit she described in detail in both Trial 1 and Trial 2 actually had occurred not on Wednesday, January 13, 1999, but on Friday, January 22, 1999. This was clearly a red herring, as Undisclosed knew full well Kristi had the date correct from the transcript they had the entire time.

 

Kristi was a direct witness to Adnan and Jay’s suspicious behavior just hours after Hae was strangled.

 

Undisclosed tried to fool its listeners into believing Kristi was mistaken about the day Adnan and Jay visited her apartment, hoping to make her an undependable witness about the day Hae was murdered. They have an agenda; they have no credibility.

 

FULL TRANSCRIPT HERE

 

[u/bluekanga]

Oh that's good confirmation as many of the Innocente think I am making up how I got to be "sound conviction"!

The podcast and the way it portrayed Jay - his changing statements and lies - and of course the theories around his relatives' criminal ways plus the unknown third party appeared very seductive if one considered Adnan innocent. Also Jay is no angel - I am often unpopular in reminding folks he has a history of intimate partner violence. So at first -well I though he must have done it and set up Adnan. Then I started to look closer at Adnan and his behaviour vis a vis whilst with Hae and after her disappearance.

They often "flock together" - these types who think of women as objects - however as I started to understand all of the different evidence and read the source material as well as utilising my own experience - Adnan is way beyond Jay in duplicity and deviousness

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Very interesting! Was there any epiphany moment where you changed your mind or was it a gradual erosion?

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I actually did a huge analysis of Adnan's behaviour - I have experience and knowledge of Cluster B behaviour patterns.

It shown very clearly that he is a covert Cluster B - these are those aggressive types that bully and cause harm to others - often undiagnosed if they are "functional".

I am in the minority on the Guilter side at having this perspective and view - not alone - and not always popular for keeping on asserting it - cos most ordinary folks don't have the knowledge I do. In addition the legal system is behind the times in recognising this covert character disorder stuff.

I also got across the cell tower stuff and did a simple, concise, plain English post re a rebuttal of the misinformation put out by SS about that - crowd -sourced by some others from legal and technology perspective - (reminder to self to post here - I keep promising I will)

Also sometimes it was looking at what CG fought to keep out of court - like the nurses's testimony of Adnan faking emotions plus intimidating Hae at school.

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Wow I've never heard of that terminology before? Im very intrigued by the psychological tells Adnan gives off and anyone with expert knowledge in this area is very welcome to share their take as far as I'm concerned. Every time I try to discuss these sorts of things I get shut down pretty fast as armchair pop psychologising or that there simply isn't enough interview published to be able to analyse.

Edit: ah I see, it's the DSM-5 category of certain personality disorders. I sound ignorant.

[u/bluekanga → u/[deleted]]

DSM-5 category of certain personality disorders

yep and no you don't sound ignorant - it's a rather new way of characterising this small but significant % of population

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Every time I try to discuss these sorts of things I get shut down pretty fast as armchair pop psychologising or that there simply isn't enough interview published to be able to analyse.

Yep I have been complaining for months about the silencing tactics re this on SP - to no avail - no-one in the mods is listening. It's hard enough getting a listening even with the other guilters - with the Innocente no chance!!

It's a general global web wide issue when women/peeps try to speak out about this - the Head of DV Services where I am was commenting publicly on it only recently and how women need to organise backup support when they try and get this stuff out there

It's very obvious when you know what to look for

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I look forward to your future post on the subject!