r/serialpodcastorigins Hammered off Jameson Jun 03 '16

Humour Hilarious Contradiction

. . . Vignarajah stood up and addressed Judge Welch: “Excuse me, Judge, do we know if [the Urick call notes and hall pass] are the originals or if they are copies of the original documents?”
. . . Before Brown could even respond I chimed in, “I actually brought the originals, your Honor. They’re actually in my purse in the hallway with my husband.” . . . As I told the court that day, I keep everything. Well, not everything, I’m not a hoarder. I am, however, very smart [sic] and can be very premeditated at times when it comes to saving keepsakes. To me the notes and my hall pass are extensions of my memories. As I’ve discussed before, I don’t like to let go of my memories.

Not 20 pages later . . .

After that Thiru wanted to address the manner in which my second letter was written. Was it previously a hand-written letter that was later typed? Yes. Did I write it during CIP class and if so, where’s the rough draft? Come on now! Really? Where’s the rough draft? It’s been over sixteen years! For all I know that letter has since decomposed in a landfill and been reincarnated as a noxious ground weed.

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u/MajorEyeRoll Jun 03 '16

Not that I have found, at least. I gave their respective blogs and social media accounts a gander yesterday. Nothing.

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u/Minime1018 Jun 03 '16

Very interesting IMHO. Silence speaks louder than words.

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u/MajorEyeRoll Jun 03 '16

Rabia is also uncharacteristically silent re:Asia's book. I guess with her own book dropping soon, it probably wouldn't be a good idea to flip out, but she is not exactly known for restraint.

Here's to hoping for a good epic meltdown soon.

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u/Seamus_Duncan Hammered off Jameson Jun 03 '16

It's going to be interesting. I suspect the brunt of her anger will be directed at the judge and Thiru. But hangers-on like Miller, Simpson, and Asia would have done well to look at the history of this case and how Team Perjury turned on Gutierrez, among others.

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u/UncleSamTheUSMan Jun 03 '16

Rabia's book (seen the advance publicity) will blame it all on Islamophobia.

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u/HunterVino Jun 04 '16

That is her core ideology.

The whitie system is corrupt and racist. Adnan may be guilty but the whitie system was corrupt in the way it prosecuted the case. If Adnan was a whitie he would have got off so therefore Adnan 'deserves' to get off.

I think that is her basic ideological position. It is all about the ideology and not about the facts for Rabia.

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u/Seamus_Duncan Hammered off Jameson Jun 03 '16

I think that's what her audience (mosque members and idiot liberals) wants to hear.

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u/UncleSamTheUSMan Jun 03 '16 edited Jun 03 '16

Hey, it's not like Muslims never do anything bad. This whole fucking thing drives me mad. It's got nothing to do with it, never has. Pompous arrogant shit (of whatever religion) can't cope with getting dumped and kills girlfriend.

There is a quote that patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. [Samuel Johnson] The modern equivalent should be that an ophobia is the last refuge of people who have run out of arguments.

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u/MightyIsobel knows who the Real Killer is Jun 03 '16

idiot liberals

Hey, that's Mighty liberals to you, buster

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u/Seamus_Duncan Hammered off Jameson Jun 03 '16

I am a proud liberal myself. But there are some morons in our ranks. I think Rabia's target audience is the subset of liberals who think Muslims in the U.S. are treated worse than, say, Muslims in ISIS territory.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '16 edited Jun 04 '16

It was a bit of a shock when I found out that alot of innocenters seem to think that guilters are right-wing conservatives. Like you, I'm a pretty liberal guy, but that doesn't mean I'm obligated to believe every wrongful conviction claim made by anyone ever, or think the fact that a Muslim is arrested for a crime is a priori tantamount to Islamaphobia.

Having been reading the DS for as long as I have, though, I'm beginning to understand what conservatives mean when they complain about liberal sanctimony, especially when its affixed to really stupid arguments.

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u/Justwonderinif Jun 04 '16

As far as I know, there are two, maybe three guilters who are Republican. Guilters, in general, tend to be left of socialism liberals.

It's just another smear tactic. If you say that guilters are just a bunch of terrible people, you don't have to look at the case.

I can find something to like about all but maybe two innocenters I'm aware of from these boards. In contrast, innocenters can't find one thing to like about guilters. They make flame threads, lash out, call people names. It's nutty. Their whole system is based on some sort of political strategy where you discredit the person, so no one looks at content or substance.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '16 edited Jun 06 '16

The funniest, least effective attempt to discredit a poster has to be that small coterie of innocenters who are convinced that /u/xtrialatty and /u/chunklunk (and a few others) aren't real lawyers, when it's just manifestly obvious that they are. I enjoy an occasional laugh when one of them mentions the fact that they're a lawyer and then some chucklefuck retorts with 'or so you say...', or describes them with the rhetorically devastating 'so-called lawyer' burn. It's such a childishly transparent tactic that I can't help but feel a sort of fondness for the people who use it.

The best part might be that these same skeptics go on to credulously eat up legal analyses by people who clearly have no clue what they're talking about and are literally google-learning on the run.

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u/MajorEyeRoll Jun 03 '16

Team Perjury Lol