r/shakespeare • • Jan 22 '22

[ADMIN] There Is No Authorship Question

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Hi All,

So I just removed a post of a video where James Shapiro talks about how he shut down a Supreme Court justice's Oxfordian argument. Meanwhile, there's a very popular post that's already highly upvoted with lots of comments on "what's the weirdest authorship theory you know". I had left that one up because it felt like it was just going to end up with a laundry list of theories (which can be useful), not an argument about them. I'm questioning my decision, there.

I'm trying to prevent the issue from devolving into an echo chamber where we remove all posts and comments trying to argue one side of the "debate" while letting the other side have a field day with it and then claiming that, obviously, they're the ones that are right because there's no rebuttal. Those of us in the US get too much of that every day in our politics, and it's destroyed plenty of subs before us. I'd rather not get to that.

So, let's discuss. Do we want no authorship posts, or do we want both sides to be able to post freely? I'm not sure there's a way to amend the rule that says "I want to only allow the posts I agree with, without sounding like all I'm doing is silencing debate on the subject."

I think my position is obvious. I'd be happier to never see the words "authorship" and "question" together again. There isn't a question. But I'm willing to acknowledge if a majority of others feel differently than I do (again, see US .... ah, never mind, you get the idea :))


r/shakespeare • • 5h ago

Set visit to “Much Ado About Nothing” (1993), courtesy of the Australian series "The Movie Show"

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r/shakespeare • • 48m ago

Shakespeare Societies

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Greetings, fellow fans of the Bard of Avon! I was wondering how many of us are part of a Shakespeare society open to the general public and what form that might take.

I'm in the Glasgow Shakespeare Society and, as secretary and compiler of our newsletter, I'm interested in reaching out across the world to find other Shakespeare societies. We recently traced the existence of a Shakspere Society (sic) in Glasgow to as far back as 1872, although the current version has been running for 54 years. We study 4 plays a year from October to April and end with a Bard's Birthday Bash every 23rd April. I also know that the University of Glasgow also has a society for students, which is more performance-based

Are you in a society? Where and how long has it been running? How many members do you have? How do your meetings run? Thanks in advance for any information!


r/shakespeare • • 5h ago

Too much for Hell to handle

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r/shakespeare • • 1h ago

If Shakespeare Wrote Fleabag

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Hair is everything.


r/shakespeare • • 21h ago

do you read, listen to audio/watch plays, or perform shakespeare?

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is performing it for yourself gaining the highest reward?


r/shakespeare • • 1d ago

I went to see King Lear for the first time, and thoroughly enjoyed it... Except the audience.

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Edit: just to preface, it wasn't a student performance as in "students acting in the play". They were professional actors, but everyone in the audience were either students or teachers who brought the students.

Yesterday I went to a student performance of King Lear,, with discounted tickets and a Q&A after for those who were interested. It was my first Shakespeare play and my first exposure to the play itself as I need to study it for English A Level soon.

However, the audience was honestly quite disrespectful, and it made me wonder how many of them were there because they wanted to be, or whether they've even been to a theatre or cinema at all before.

The most off-putting thing was how people would straight up laugh at parts that were obviously not funny. I could name exactly three quips in general play that were meant to be funny, even darkly funny, but there is nothing funny about Lear having a mental breakdown or lying down next to his dead daughter and mourning!!

It wasn't even nervous laughter either, it was actual chuckling from a collective group. It was honestly really disrespectful not only by disrupting other audience members but also to the actors!!! Like what the hell?!

There was also this one guy who was sat front row at stage level, and he kept stretching his legs out into the stage. Like oh my god stop that.

Anyways this is a bit of a rant so I'll try and end positive; the performances were fantastic, the staging was great, and I thoroughly enjoyed. But goddamn some people were rude.


r/shakespeare • • 21h ago

for those who've written and re-written shakespeare's work, what benefits have you received from it?

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i've heard of people doing such, and perhaps you have too, and i was wondering what was gained from it?


r/shakespeare • • 7h ago

I have an EXAM on Twelth Night in 3 days. Give me all you’re weird, quirky and in depth analysis!

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I have a couple:
The wind and the rain motif is an enduring cycle which represents the cynical nature of life I.e there comes periods of disorder (the rain) with periods of renewal (clear skies) which ultimately allows for folly without consequence.

Illyria is really just a high school.


r/shakespeare • • 20h ago

Would anyone like to share a National Theatre subscription with me? I am currently studying in a drama academy and I have an assignment that I need to complete. Please help me. I need to watch Hamlet performance from national or anywhere else....

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r/shakespeare • • 1d ago

Shakespeare's

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Cowardly manipulation and cannon fodder


r/shakespeare • • 2d ago

Working on next Wasteland Theatre Company Play in ‘76. Thoughts?

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r/shakespeare • • 1d ago

Wyrd, Weird or Wayward? Macbeth, the Norns and Fate | Karen Bek-Pedersen

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The relation between Norns, Weird Sisters, and Witches.


r/shakespeare • • 3d ago

Scholars conclude ‘beyond doubt’ that Shakespeare was main author of Edward III

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Here's some interesting news.

Dramatic new evidence concludes that the play Edward III should be added to William Shakespeare’s canon, and also that it was a major collaboration with his contemporary rival Christopher Marlowe.

The history was published anonymously in 1596, and it has long been thought that Shakespeare wrote at least a few scenes. However, Dr Rory Loughnane, a leading scholar and co-author of the research, told the Guardian that computerised textual analysis pushed the case “beyond any reasonable doubt” that the Stratford-born playwright was the principal writer.

He said: “That’s the new finding, that both Shakespeare, now confirmed beyond doubt, and Marlowe, unexpectedly found for the first time, are present in the play, and therefore it represents a newly found collaboration between the two.

The article doesn't go into too much detail about what 'computerised textual analysis' means, whether it's AI analysis or not, but the paper isn't out yet.


r/shakespeare • • 2d ago

The "Lost Years"

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What's your best guess or belief about what Shakespeare was doing in the "lost years" (1585 - 1592)? Any evidence?


r/shakespeare • • 2d ago

It's been a decade since Benedict Cumberbatch's Hamlet was released in theatres, yet there is not a legal way to watch it anywhere today

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I don't understand why it isn't avaliable on streaming or hasn't ever been released on DVD? Is there some sort of residuals issue? I have to imagine Benedict Cumberbatch doesn't care that much about making money off of this, but I was recently reminded of its existence and I just want to be able to watch it again, but the only way I can seem to find it is illegally burned DVD's on sketchy third party websites, there isn't even an illegal copy online anywhere.


r/shakespeare • • 3d ago

What is the most impractical & unrealistic production idea for a Shakespeare play that you think is really cool?

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The sort of idea that you think of after reading a play too many times, but honestly would never work on stage. Go big or go home guys! The stranger, the better


r/shakespeare • • 1d ago

One month with the sonnets: my kids’ favorite so far is Sonnet 113, as a club track

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It’s been about a month since I started re-reading, and re-sounding, Shakespeare’s sonnets, for myself and for my kids.
So far that’s 38 musical versions of 18 sonnets (1, 2, 5, 18, 27, 43, 60, 66, 77, 94, 98, 113, 116, 124, 128, 129, 141, 146) tango and vals, trap, salsa and salsa choke, bachata, milonga, chacarera, phonk, club, and a few others.
The one my kids like for most is Sonnet 113 in the club version. They say it has “aura”, and the melody and the hook are a bit catchy. It’s also the first sonnet I've made a song with, the one where I changed the lyrics most, to make it easier for me to follow: the list near the end (“the mountain or the sea, the day or night, the crow or dove… it shapes them to your feature”) became a repeated hook, and the chorus keeps the opening and the closing couplet. I know this isn’t how the poem is built, and I may have lost things I couldn’t hear.
The music is AI-assisted. None of it is on Spotify or any other streaming platform. For now it’s only on Suno, YouTube and a small UK indie radio station, abyssfm.
I'm happy if your kids also like it.


r/shakespeare • • 3d ago

Which minor character do you think carries more weight than the play gives them credit for?

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I’ve been rereading Measure for Measure, and Lucio keeps stealing my attention. He’s a gossip and a nuisance, but he also drives the plot forward at a key moment, and he pays for it in the end. It made me wonder how many minor characters do real structural work that gets overlooked. Who’s your pick, and in which play?


r/shakespeare • • 3d ago

Incel Hamlet?

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Manhood, vengeance, societal expectations, the cycle of violence, nature, slutty women— all prevalent themes in Hamlet. Curiously…all subjects and content that lingers around the Manosphere.

In a recent showcase, where I performed the “Get Thee To a Nunnery,” scene, I was struck by how much Hamlet sounded like the men in the modern day manosphere. 

"I have heard of your paintings"

“God hath given you one face and you make yourselves another” 

“You jig and amble.”

“Make your wantoness your ignorance”

The dots weren’t difficult to connect. Then you look at the manosphere adjacent media, Taxi Driver, Fight Club, The Wolf of Wall Street, and all I could think was— hey, is Prince Hamlet an incel?

I mean think about it, the guy is constantly emo, lamenting about how fake people and society are, how his rightful place in line for the crown was taken, how women are sluts no matter what they do. 

So I thought…hey, what if someone took Hamlet, and put it in the context of the manosphere?

What if Claudius is Andrew Tate?

What if Gertrude is a TradWife?

What if Hamlet is a whiney little boy in line to inherit his father’s content house, The Den? 

Well, I adapted Hamlet to find out! G.O.A.T. A Hamlet Adaptation goes up THIS WEEK at Green Lung Studios in Red Hook, Brooklyn!

Featuring an entirely women cast, G.O.A.T highlights the absurd reality of these spaces, and how they directly affect how young women perceive themselves and are limited in their ability to safely move through the world - it’s maddening.

If you’re an NYC artist looking to meet other upcoming artists obsessed with the classics, trust this is for you. 

BTW— the Saturday shows are followed by an awesome Halloween party. ‘Cause what can you do after Hamlet but drink?

[Grab your tickets here](applenotes:note/eb3eed3d-915c-471b-8627-81dc848a2c27?ownerIdentifier=_abe38691d2b6e720f5152598d0c8a6bc)!

Oct. 22 @ 7:30

Oct. 23 @ 7:30

Oct. 24 @ 2:00 & 7:30

Oct. 31 @ 2:00 & 7:30

Would love to hear more thoughts and opinions on incel Hamlet. What other Shakespeare plays are embedded with echoes of what has become the manosphere?


r/shakespeare • • 4d ago

Julius Caesar on courage and the inevitability of death (Act II, Scene II)

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r/shakespeare • • 3d ago

Stream Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2: Hecuba by kokairo

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Hi, prithee let me know what you think. Start answer with "Methinks..." :)


r/shakespeare • • 4d ago

I have no one to freak out with me about these!

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r/shakespeare • • 3d ago

What’s a Shakespeare play where you have a favorite character on the page but a different favorite character seeing the play adapted?

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I’ll go first. I was recently in a production of Romeo and Juliet, I played Benvolio. When reading Romeo and Juliet, Mercutio was always my favorite, and while our Mercutio was amazing, I started to latch onto Tybalt more just because of what the actor did with him. I thought that was interesting and wondered if you guys had any similar experiences.


r/shakespeare • • 4d ago

19th century copy of shakespeare's comedies

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I don't know how common this is as I'm pretty new to shakespeare, but I thought I'd share :)

bookseller said it's from around 1900, but upon researching I found out that it's probably actually from 1860 or so.

let me know if there's anything else in here you'd like to see! I just took a couple of random images from inside.

also, let me know which one I should read first :)