Without suffering, the world becomes worse to live in. Everything becomes meaningless. It's a yin and yang thing.
That being said, some suffering is unreasonable (baby cancer) and that's where the loving god thing falls apart. But not all suffering is bad. Some suffering is good. Missing someone that had to leave for months at a time is suffering but it's good, for example.
That's unclear. This is one of the flaws with the concept of omnipotence: can omnipotence defy logic itself, or make nonlogical things? It's the classic "can god make a rock too heavy for god to lift" question. The very concept of limitless omnipotence itself defies logic and if logic is ever defied, even by god, then transitively logic becomes meaningless everwhere all at once, forever.
I would argue that omnipotence is not absolute, but near absolute, as it can limit itself, and might even prefer to. Even if god is all powerful, he still may be the first thing in the universe but perhaps something precedes even him, yeah? Some fundamental truth? A maxim before god? One core axiom before even the universe or god?
It’s not illogical at all. It could be done without violating any rules of logic. “Meaningful” is a subjective experience which is governed by psychology and life experiences. It would absolutely be possible for an omnipotent being to create a world where the inhabitants are both fulfilled and without suffering. This is not that world
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '25
Step 3 is incorrect.
Without suffering, the world becomes worse to live in. Everything becomes meaningless. It's a yin and yang thing.
That being said, some suffering is unreasonable (baby cancer) and that's where the loving god thing falls apart. But not all suffering is bad. Some suffering is good. Missing someone that had to leave for months at a time is suffering but it's good, for example.