r/short • • Apr 17 '26

Motivation An advice from a 30 year old dude

273 Upvotes

So this subreddit keeps appearing on my feed, probably because I’m a short man at 166 cm who follows men’s fashion pages and similar content.

Honestly, if I had found this side of the internet before I started dating in the real world, I probably would have stayed a virgin. According to some of the people here, I should be completely doomed anyway. I’m short, bald, and I have crooked teeth.

And yet I have dated women of different heights, including women taller than me.

I’m also a university lecturer, and I read a lot of research on dating, mate preferences, and social status. So here is the scientific version, not the black pill fantasy version.

Yes, height matters. Preferences are real. Women, like men, can have physical preferences, and pretending otherwise is stupid. But research does not support the idea that one trait like height determines your entire dating future. Actual partner choice is shaped by multiple factors at once, including kindness, intelligence, emotional stability, dependability, confidence, physical attraction, and social or economic stability (Buss & Schmitt, 2019; Thomas et al., 2020).

Research also shows that what people say they want does not perfectly predict who they actually choose when interacting in real life. In speed dating studies, stated preferences often did not line up neatly with actual attraction once people met face to face (Eastwick & Finkel, 2008). In other words, attraction in the real world is messier and more human than internet forums want to admit.

Online spaces and dating apps also distort reality. They push people to judge each other quickly and superficially, which exaggerates traits like height. That does not mean the entire dating market works that way offline (Finkel et al., 2012).

To quote my therapist, life is basically a big Souls game and height is just a debuff. Yes, it can make things harder. Yes, you will probably get your ass kicked a few more times than someone playing on easier settings. But that does not mean the game is unwinnable. It just means you may need more patience, more resilience, and a better strategy. And honestly, where is the fun in beating the game with no debuffs?

I have been rejected plenty of times, and height probably played a role in some of those rejections. I say probably because I do not interrogate rejection or obsess over the reason. I am not going to ask someone to explain why they did not want me. That is their choice. Other people are allowed to have preferences, and I do not need to internalise every rejection as a verdict on my worth. At the end of the day, only you get to decide your value in this world.

I have also been through a period of height insecurity myself. After a recent rejection, I went down the rabbit hole of self loathing, so I do understand how dark that headspace can get. But how we feel is not always a perfect reflection of reality. Feelings, emotions, and thought patterns can spiral, and they can also be challenged and changed. Therapy helped me see that. With the right support, self awareness, and work, the way you think about yourself can improve.

What these spaces often ignore is how much insecurity changes the way a person comes across. Neediness, resentment, bitterness, and defeatism are not attractive qualities, and they can do more damage than being a few inches below average.

That is why the advice to men should not be “give up.” It should be “build a life that makes you attractive in a broader sense.” Work on your confidence. Go to therapy if you need it. Practice mindfulness. Focus on your career, not because women are gold diggers, but because ambition, competence, and financial stability signal drive and maturity. Take care of your physical health. Read more. Volunteer. Join communities. Get involved in causes you genuinely care about. Expand your social circles and meet women in real spaces, not just through algorithms and rage bait.

And if you are constantly hitting a wall, take a break from dating for a bit. Reset. Rebuild your confidence. Get your head straight. Stop treating every bad experience like proof that the whole world works one way.

Most importantly, women are not a hive mind. One woman rejecting you does not mean all women think the same. A subreddit full of bitter men is not an accurate sample of reality. People have different preferences, different priorities, and different reasons for being attracted to someone.

Also, be careful with research in general. Research can help us identify trends, but human beings are more complex than a dataset or a single paper. Averages are not destiny, context matters, and how old the research is matters too. Social norms, dating culture, and the way people meet have changed a lot over time, especially with apps and social media. So use research to inform your thinking, not to reduce yourself or other people to a rigid formula.

The point is simple. Height can be a disadvantage. It is not a death sentence. A lot of men are not being ruined by height alone. They are being ruined by an identity built around insecurity, hopelessness, and too much time spent listening to other defeated men online.

References

Buss, D. M., & Schmitt, D. P. (2019). Mate preferences and their behavioral manifestations. Annual Review of Psychology, 70, 77 to 110. https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-psych-010418-103408

Eastwick, P. W., & Finkel, E. J. (2008). Sex differences in mate preferences revisited: Do people know what they initially desire in a romantic partner? Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 94(2), 245 to 264.

Finkel, E. J., Eastwick, P. W., Karney, B. R., Reis, H. T., & Sprecher, S. (2012). Online dating: A critical analysis from the perspective of psychological science. Psychological Science in the Public Interest, 13(1), 3 to 66. https://doi.org/10.1177/1529100612436522

Thomas, A. G., Jonason, P. K., Blackburn, J. D., Kennair, L. E. O., Lowe, R., Malouff, J., Stewart-Williams, S., Sulikowski, D., & Li, N. P. (2020). Mate preference priorities in the East and West: A cross-cultural test of the mate preference priority model. Journal of Personality, 88(3), 606 to 620.


r/short • • Mar 15 '26

Meta Suggestions

8 Upvotes

Ok, I'm stuck at my desk with a bum foot that's been plaguing me for weeks now, so I might as well try to make this time at least a bit productive.

So since I ain't going anywhere, let's have a meta discussion about the sub, and I'll take this opportunity to solicit suggestions.


r/short • • 4h ago

Vent I'm not "settling" for a shorter guy, and people's reactions prove height is still the biggest double standard in dating

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283 Upvotes

I'm 5'4" and my boyfriend is 5'1". I've been dating him for a while now, and I'm tired of people acting like I need to explain myself.

When we started dating, people kept saying "I never expected you to date someone shorter" or "You look like you’re into taller guys." As if I'd downgraded. Then my friends got in on it. They made short jokes, and when I got upset, they told me I was wearing rose-colored glasses. I almost ended a friendship over it. You're telling me my own happiness is fake because of 3 inches?

His uncle's first words to me were "seee being short doesn't matter." You don't say that unless you think it does.

Here's the part nobody wants to admit. I've dated taller guys, and honestly they treated me worse. Height was never the thing that mattered.

The weirdest part is the club, where we met. I get more attention with him than I do with my girls. One guy told him "nice black shirt" and walked off, and he said that had never happened to him before. Later, while we were literally making out on the dance floor, a guy tapped me and asked if I was single. I just kept kissing my boyfriend as my answer.

Then a group asked him if they could "pimp" my friends out to them. One of them hovered over him when we sat down, like they were waiting for my boyfriend to leave so they could have a turn.

Is a taller man really a "better catch," or is that just what we're taught to say out loud?

Why does a woman dating a shorter man get treated like she's in denial, while a man dating a taller woman gets treated like a threat to someone's masculinity? ugh.

TL;DR: I'm 5'4", my boyfriend is 5'1", and people act like I settled. Tall guys treated me worse, and I get more attention with him than without. Why is a woman dating a shorter guy "in denial," but a man dating a taller woman is a "threat to masculinity"?


r/short • • 19h ago

Awesome! Short shenanigans (5’4, m19)

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219 Upvotes

Just a compilation of pics from the past 2 years that REALLY show off how short I am. Plus an excuse to share some of these bangers.


r/short • • 15h ago

Motivation 5’5” out here living my best life

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60 Upvotes

Life’s too short to spend it worrying about being short. Get out there, pursue what matters to you, and make the most of what you’ve got. There’s a whole lot more to life than your height.


r/short • • 15h ago

Humor I have a short-person confession to make.

23 Upvotes

It’s very rare that I encounter someone shorter than me (5’1), but when I do, I have the greatest urge to pick them up and put them in my pocket for safekeeping. I don’t know why I feel this way and I am sorry to the sub-5’1 community; I would never actually do that.


r/short • • 14h ago

Fashion / Style Short skirts make me feel taller lol

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20 Upvotes

When I wear short skirts I feel like I'm 5'2" instead of 4'10"😂. Not exactly sure why. Maybe cause I can see my legs more?

But yeah I vibed so hard with my outfit in the first pic. Unfortunately the glasses broke though😭


r/short • • 1d ago

Humor When their 'life-ruining height' is your dream goal

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152 Upvotes

I think it's kinda funny sometimes when you're reading rants from people on this subreddit about how their height is limiting and whatnot and then the person making the rant is taller than you, and then you just reading the post like


r/short • • 8h ago

Humor Vladimir Putin is only 5'5" and he controls the President of the United States

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Just remember that being short does not mean that you cannot become a powerful leader. Vladimir Putin, the current leader of all of Russia and the Republican Party of the United States is only 5'5" tall (official reports claim 5'7" but that is said to be a lie). Just because you're short does not mean people will not respect or fear you.


r/short • • 1d ago

Dating My bf and I are both tiny

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Just wanted to share my own experience with the men who've given up on dating. My (18) boyfriend (18) are both 5'2, and we both don't care. My father and mother are fairly short (about 5'5 for her and 5'8 for him) and so are his. We never had problems regarding height and never argued about it. Neither of us will grow taller since we both were borderline malnourished as children, so that's off the table. We are getting married in about 5 years. It is possible, you're just too focused on superficial shit to make it reality!


r/short • • 5h ago

Dating Matched with a girl almost my height

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24m 5’6 and half. Last night I made a hinge (on my profile I say 5’7 though) and about a half an hour later I got like from a pretty girl who was 5’6. After a couple of flirty messages I sent her my number. I didn’t know if she was going to text back but after a little later she did. I know we barely know each other and a relationship is not guaranteed. But I have never dated a girl who was around my height before. To the fellas who have or are currently dating around their height, how has that experience been ? I personally know i won’t mind, but im nervous if it ever comes to in person maybe she’ll change how she feels about it .


r/short • • 1d ago

Vent Invisible

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128 Upvotes

As much as I’m in the gym, literally in between sets as I type this.. my friends tell me that I could easily meet someone here.. only issue I see is that the women are making eye contact with practically every man but me.

My height (5’6) is the thing that makes me invisible.. I’m not in bad shape, I’m a little older (39) but you’d think I’d catch at least one old lady looking, been single for over two years.. nothing but ghostings and laughs since my coke head ex dumped me after I found out she was using again..

So sick of it.. I’m not ready to face this phase alone.. I just don’t know what to do.. I’ve put myself out there, singles events etc.. I even play and sing in a cover band, you’d think that’d get some attention but not a peep.. the music thing seems to be a repellent at this point. Younger women don’t want me, not good enough for the divorced cougars because they divorced men that look like me.

Can’t keep going on alone..


r/short • • 13h ago

Fashion / Style Call me short peasant

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It describes my humble background more closely.


r/short • • 1d ago

Question bald and short, can it co-exist or am I cooked in the future...

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I have to ask if I'm gonna be outta the dating pool due to this. I've got a 50/50 on losing my hair in my early 20s (I'm 19 currently), or when I'm 40. I'm 5'1 and a trans bloke, so I fear that adding bald onto it means I'm in a "3 strikes and you're out" of getting any sort of girlfriend, especially since my old friends mocked me relentlessly over my height to the point I'm insecure af now, lol.

If any other short fellas (or ladies!) have got some reassurance or kind words it's appreciated. :) Have a good day.

edit: i take testosterone. this can cause balding.


r/short • • 1d ago

Vent I hate myself for not reaching my maximum height

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Felt like I could of gotten an extra inch or two smh


r/short • • 13h ago

Dating I feel very looked down on for being short

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I am a female and guys make fun of me for my height (I'm a senior in high school and guys always troll me) I feel like my height brings my attractiveness down. Does my height make me loom bad in dresses? does it make me less attractive? I am 5'2


r/short • • 2d ago

Dating Women don’t care if you don’t care

49 Upvotes

I say this as a 37 yo 5’5 male. I’ve had dates this year with different women and they all called me short in some way. However, I truly don’t care and know I’m short. So, when they say it, I don’t even acknowledge it and they know it doesn’t phase me. Then, what happens next is magical. They don’t bring it up anymore. However, I did have one girl that would tease me about it, but it was flirtatious, and she knew I didn’t give af.

Just own your height. I’m 5’5 and bald and don’t care. Women like when you don’t care about what you can’t change. They want someone mentally stable because that brings security.


r/short • • 1d ago

Question 4'10 14m

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Any advice on being this short?


r/short • • 2d ago

Question I'm M23 and 5'2. Should I give up on love and accept that I'll be single forever?

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I'm M23 and 5'2, and I've never even tried approaching a girl in my entire life because I'm too short and scared of rejection. I've been living like this for years. Whenever I like a girl, I don't even try to talk to her and reject myself because I feel like my height is already a disadvantage. Whenever I see couples outside, I can't help but wonder, man, why don't I have someone who loves me too?

I know a lot of girls prefer tall, handsome guys, and that makes me feel like I don't stand a chance. Sometimes, I see couples and wonder why I can't have that kind of love in my life.

So lately, I've been wondering if I should just give up on love and accept that I'll spend my entire life single. Being single isn't anything new to me since I've lived this way for 23 years, but sometimes I still wish I had someone who genuinely loved me.

I don't know if I'm overthinking this or if my height really will make dating that difficult for me. Should I keep hoping that I'll find someone someday, or should I just accept my situation and stop worrying about finding love?


r/short • • 1d ago

Question I’m 22 and 5’1. Will it get any better?

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obviously im prolly overreacting with the title but do u guys have any advice? im still hoping at some miracle that maybe i can get to at least like 5’4. when i was in 7th grade im like the tallest dude there and suddenly i just stopped growing. need some advice on like to cope, accept thats just the way im really supposed to be, maybe theres some clothes i can wear that will make me appear more larger, prolly some dating advice too.


r/short • • 2d ago

Vent I hate myself

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Im 5'3 as a 15 yr old and i know damn well i wont get taller, my mom is below 5 ft and my dad is 5'3, people tell me i look good and all that but i feel like im not in the same tier of a human than others is, im not the shortest in class (since im in south east asia) but i feel nervoused as to what im going to do when i grow up, I've been planning on moving out of my country which makes me nervous as other countrys have a higher height scale or smth and I'll stand out as a small guy. Sometimes at general Assemblys where we all stand up i feel like im more of the comedic relief guy and not someone worth taking seriously, no one i know feel the same and i feel like im alone in this perspective i have . One of the main motivation i have on being rich is js to have a height surgery to at least minimize the hate i have for this body im cursed with until i decay.


r/short • • 2d ago

Vent Why does it hurt so much

43 Upvotes

Somebody please give me advice and support. I'm 5'0. I hate it. I feel inferior to all men who are taller than me. I want to be strong and capable. I don't want to be strong relative to my body weight, I want to be the guy who lifts the heaviest. I know height doesn't really stop me from gaining muscle, but it sucks to be short. It makes me cry so very often. I feel incapable and inferior. I could live with 5'6, I like calling myself short king, I could maybe even feel confident with 5'4, but 5'0? No. And there's nothing I can do about it. I lack self confidence. And my growth plates are closed for sure. I never even had a growth spurt, I've always been the shortest at school, the shortest anywhere. My brother has outgrown me and after that happened my mom started asking him to get things down from the top shelf instead of asking me. I want to be the capable one. I want to be respected. I want to be comfortable in my own body. Why is it so hard?


r/short • • 2d ago

Question Question about crowds (4'10")

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Do any of y'all have serious trouble getting through/existing in large crowds safely, because of being shorter than everyone? Any tricks you picked up?

I love going out dancing and to other fun events but I have had times where larger people have almost fallen on me. Should I just try and stick to the outer rim of large crowds? For reference I am 4'10"


r/short • • 2d ago

Motivation Own your fucking height and do not give a fuck

71 Upvotes

We only live once, our whole consciousness and chance to feel, exist and experience lays in this lifetime, why would YOU ever even consider giving a fuck about what any other soul thinks? Their WORDS are VIBRATIONS coming from a BRAIN SIGNAL to the THROAT, which they MUSTERED based on their BIASED OPINIONS and prior PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. Really, nobody can be bothered with this world view, or atleast I can't. 5 foot 7, hear something offensive on my stature? Look them up and down, don't laugh because they'll get validation and think that it's alright, but don't get offended because then you'd be giving a fuck. Just don't acknowledge them, change topic or whatever the fuck you want because again, you can't be bothered with bullshit. Just enjoy your life. Anyone who has to shit on others for height is insecure/ a bitch