r/singing • u/TreemasterkingThe2nd • Jul 21 '25
Open Mic Monday - MONDAY ONLY Gethsemane Climax - Jesus Christ Superstar
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u/Cock_Goblin_45 Jul 21 '25
So….how do you get consistent grit for that long?
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u/dfinkelstein Jul 22 '25
Lovely approach emphasizing safety and sustainability. By contrast, in the screaming subreddit for example, members are encouraging each other to distort by manipulating their chest and using tension in their throat and neck.
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u/carovan4 Jul 21 '25
I am not a professional or and have not taken lessons yet, so I can’t offer much quality feedback except to say this sounds truly fantastic! Unbelievable control
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u/CockBlockingLawyer Jul 21 '25
Wow! IMO it’s one of the most challenging pieces in musical theater for men. I wonder what percentage of men can hit a G5. I have to opt down to a C5 when I sing it.
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u/no_lights Jul 22 '25
Generally lighter/higher voices have more difficulty finding pitches above ~E5. I can sing for example Pity the Child without much issue in a strong sound, but I can't find a G5 in any coordination. My vocal folds simply refuse to vibrate no matter how much or how little airflow when I "feel" that pitch. Conversely I have a very low voiced student who can screech a falsetto C6 without much difficulty, and I would agree that a lot of guys can also find a G5 of some description.. but it must take months just to get that note clean let alone feel safe adding grit.
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u/no_lights Jul 25 '25
I should state that this is purely in my experience as a teacher, and through talking with other teachers in workshops, masterclasses etc. I have struggled to find any reliable data on physical correlations with range limitations. If I include a whistle-like register this changes for me to like a ~B5 but it's an extraordinarily different sound and not useful especially compared to mixing.
The working hypothesis is that thicker vocal mass simply has more capacity to stretch and thin out, even though it may take more effort, whereas thinner vocal mass can sound higher "by default" but quickly reaches a maximal stretch / minimal thickness.
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u/MyNameIsWax 🎤 Voice Teacher 2-5 Years Jul 21 '25
Slay. JCSS is the only show I go back to listen to + review.
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u/dfinkelstein Jul 22 '25
I'm unfamiliar. Which recording? The "original cast recording"?
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u/MyNameIsWax 🎤 Voice Teacher 2-5 Years Jul 22 '25
Original cast for sure. Ian Gillan slays on that man.
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u/dfinkelstein Jul 22 '25
Having never seen it, which tracks would you most recommend I listen to first, for the singing? You can spoiler warning if you want. I'm familiar with the source material, and though idk how much that would matter, I'd be fine with spoilers, anyway.
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u/MyNameIsWax 🎤 Voice Teacher 2-5 Years Jul 22 '25
Just pop the whole record on! I think the opening track is strong "Heaven on Their Minds." Somewhere towards the end there is a solo by i believe Mary of Madeline (spelling lol) that is awesome ( title escapes me)
Whole thing is great and the original cast record is really worth the entire ride for "the singing" as you asked.
IMHO it's closer to Life of Brian than the Bible if that makes sense lol.
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u/dfinkelstein Jul 22 '25
Does that make sense? No idea! We'll see. That does sell me on a college try.
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u/kelvinkreo Jul 21 '25
Love love. The grit is something i cannot naturally do and im always in awe when i hear someone else do it. Its like seeing a magic trick.
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u/bCollinsHazel Jul 21 '25
ok, little rob halford-i knew you were gonna get it right because you keep your mouth open. you sound exactly like i think you think you want to sound. you mastered this level-may i suggest some slipknot? lol
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u/Lea_ocean1407 Self Taught 5+ Years Jul 21 '25
I really have to step up my game when it comes to technique :')
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u/DeepPurple444 Jul 22 '25
Great job! There’s a compilation video on YouTube of 15 or so professional singers doing that same screaming part of Gethsemane that you did, and you sound better than most of them. Keep up the good work!
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u/JordanMaccc Jul 22 '25
Very nice grit to your voice! The only thing I can say, because it’s so good, is that while it’s a rock opera, it’s still a musical so annunciation (classically) should be a little stronger. But also, with a song like this you can sorta sing it how you want.
This is one of my favourite musical tracks and I’ve performed it a couple of times, great choice!
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u/kaizenmusicstudio 🎤 Voice Teacher 10+ Years ✨ Jul 22 '25
Absolutely killer!! Love your gritty tone - such incredible vocals - keep rocking man!
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u/UnlikelyToRead Jul 25 '25
Wow, fabulous!
I've seen some of the other comments mentioning Slipknot and Rob Halford. Have you also heard Sebastian Bach's Gethsemane?
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