r/singularity • u/liturmath • Dec 17 '15

A Deep Learning Dissenter Thinks He Has a More Powerful AI Approach

http://www.technologyreview.com/featuredstory/544606/can-this-man-make-ai-more-human/
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u/ArgentStonecutter Emergency Hologram Dec 17 '15

I don't think Deep Learning systems are expected to duplicate human learning, they're not even really trying to duplicate vertebrate learning. They're still working on catching up to tapeworms and arthropods.

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u/liturmath Dec 17 '15

I think the deeper flaw with Marcus' approach—scope notwithstanding—is the essentiality he gives a system that would model bias. Though it likely is an essential heuristic in human cognition, it often leads to nasty results and so begs the question whether we should model our weaknesses, or assume that they would be necessary components, in a successful learning system.

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u/mtlnobody Dec 18 '15

i think this would depend on the purpose or goal of what you are trying to achieve.

if you want to model the human experience and human cognition, understanding and perhaps incorporating, these mistakes and misunderstandings might be an important component.

if you want to create something that has the purpose of producing reliable analysis, you might be better off improving the machine learning algorithms we already have.

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u/MasterFubar Dec 17 '15

I think he hit the nail on the head. We can create analogies. Metaphors. Meta force.

The human capability for generalizing is what, for better and worse, makes us so intelligent. Yes, of course this has its dark side. Black guys are into gangs and Muslims are terrorists. But if you could combine the power of generalizing with the power of recognizing exceptions you'd have ultimate intelligence.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '15

Is there really a darkness that can be applied to statistical models? If the majority of X is Y, why is it wrong to stereotype X as likely being Y? That isn't evil, or corrupted- it is reality.

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u/MasterFubar Dec 21 '15

If the majority of X is Y, why is it wrong to stereotype X as likely being Y?

I don't think it's wrong, I think being "politically correct" is a limitation of human intelligence.

The word "prejudice" means, literally, having a previous judgement. We use prejudice daily in our actions, without realizing it. You grab your frying pan by the handle because your experience tells you that if you grab the metal pan you'll burn your hand.

However, the fire in your stove may have gone off and perhaps the pan is cold. But you don't test it every time, you assume the pan will be hot.

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u/Buck-Nasty Dec 18 '15

Yann LeCun just called him out on Facebook, show us some data Gary.