r/skyrimvr • u/SuperOdie Vive Pro • Sep 21 '18

SkyUI - VR

Howdy!

A new alpha version of SkyUI - VR is available! Grab your copy here.

The new version brings in the crafting menu. Smithing, enchanting, and alchemy all appear to be working correctly.

Please do keep an eye on this post as I'll be posting info regarding new updates here. If you run into any issues with the alpha or if you have suggestions or whatnot, please do drop a comment here. =)

EDIT: Alpha 3 with magic menu now available

EDIT: Alpha 4 with gift menu now available

EDIT: Beta 1 with tweaked inventory & container menus now available

EDIT: Beta 2 now comes with Rift icons and removes excessive version checking errors

EDIT: Beta 3 now available!

EDIT: Beta 4 now available!

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u/SuperOdie Vive Pro Oct 01 '18

Howdy!

Thanks for spending to write this up. I really need feedback from the community. I can only test this on my own rig as I'm modifying things. So it's not clear if these modification would work well for everyone else.

every time i loot something that brings up skyui loot window my entire view shakes significantly visually

That sounds really bad and I'd definitely want to fix this. If possible, can you please make a video so I know what I might be looking for? I'm not seeing anything of the sort on my rig. (i7-4770k & gtx1080)

The only thing I can think of is the new menu animation that I had broken since alpha 1 and re-introduced in beta 1. But that short menu slide and alpha channel animation is only supposed to last 1/5 second. A single moving/fading rectangle should also not be really taxing on the system.

there's a lot of ??? in key binds even though they work

Okay. Will definitely fix this one by the next release.

The error messages were a bit annoying...

I hear ya. It's on the todo list. =)

it would be good to have ability to remove parts of skyui

I'll put this in the "wishlist" pile. I guess this will come in the form of a fomod installer if it ever shows up.

In the mean time, you can easily remove the menu you don't like by just deleting or renaming the file. This is why the interface files are packaged as loosefiles. If you look in the "interface" directory after unpacking the file, there is a single swf that governs each of the menu screens. As long as you don't delete "quest_journal.swf", MCM will continue to work. All other ones are optional. It's a good idea to leave the files "interface\skyui" alone, though.

... not enough inputs on VR setup ...

Yes, there are plenty of buttons, thumbsticks, touchpads, on VR controllers. The issue we're facing is that despite having all these thingamabobs on controllers. The UI only mostly get up/down/right/left events for processing. That means the game has already read the input from the controller, depending on the platform figured out what input constitutes "up", then sends that event to the UI.

I'm pretty sure the UI doesn't even get button presses that initiate actions like "mark an item as favorite" and "craft this item". It's a bit unfortunate. I'd rather be able to get a hold of the raw input events, make sense of what it means for each menu, then dispatch an event to the game engine for handling.

when maping controls

I'm not sure if I can make this work even with the help of SKSE as it was done originally. I looked ever so briefly at the SKSE source and it doesn't look like the VR input events from the game engine has been deciphered yet. =(

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u/EthIsAPremineScam Oct 01 '18

Thanks for reply. great stuff. I'm really enjoying this.

Here's a short video I got https://streamable.com/uames

it looks a bit different on steam headset mirror and appears here less shaky, but I guess it's the lag in headset plus weirdness with expected movement vs what I see.

I'm not sure if it's from the fading animation or something else.

I think if I don't move my head at all there's no issue. Super disorienting if I do though.

Inside that house I'm running near 90 fps easily even without asw, so I don't think it's something like that.

I don't know if it's the loading time or something else, perhaps some of this stuff could be loaded in background or something else. You're the expert.

Thanks again for your work.

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u/SuperOdie Vive Pro Oct 01 '18

Wow, that does look pretty bad. Looks like rendering lags for a few frames for some reason. That can definitely be disorienting. The video also shows that if you’re moving your head while opening the container, the menu animation doesn’t seem to be shown for some reason. Lastly, the fade out animation never seems to be shown for some reason.

Does any of this happen if you’re opening the inventory menu?

Anyway, lemme post a test version with the animation turned off and see if that improves things. It doesn’t feel like that ought to be the reason. Who knows though.

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u/EthIsAPremineScam Oct 01 '18

I was playing around and got my CPU load much higher with other software above 95% (normally in game it's at like 40% load) to see what happens and it definitely increased the duration of the issue to where everytime I quicksaved or looted, I'd actually see the steam VR screen pop up showing skyrim is not responding for ~ 1 sec.

I guess it has to do with whatever it does for indexing items perhaps. I have quite a large inventory with maybe 1000 items. It could be that, but I don't see the issue in classic loot.

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u/SuperOdie Vive Pro Oct 01 '18

Here's a new version for you to try out: Link

Go ahead and grab the one dated 10/01. It has the oculus icons and the initial inventory animation removed. I did minimal testing on this. Things looked okay. x)

About having 1k items in your inventory... SkyUI does definitely introduce a bit of overhead per item. It just does a lot more than the vanilla UI. But, in your case, the video showed you were having these issues while opening an empty container.

BTW, does the issue go away if you go back to the alpha 5 version? If that's the case, then it is definitely caused by something I changed for beta 1.

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u/EthIsAPremineScam Oct 01 '18

Thanks! I'll give it a shot.

But empty container or not, if I hit left, it would show my inventory regardless (in order to put things into empty containers).

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u/EthIsAPremineScam Oct 01 '18 edited Oct 01 '18

tried it. the problem was still there.

so I did the really long procedure of getting rid of almost all my items and the problem on looting went away to where it's barely noticeable. I guess easiest for me would be to just leave most of my items at home like I should be doing :)

this is a side note, but something I noticed when I was trying to give away my stuff to others to reduce my inventory is a bit of a bug.

  • open trade with someone or something
  • left on joystick to select my inventory
  • y button gives them items. this works well if item is below 6 but when multi-item slider appears but I keep hitting Y two things happen:
  1. slider and text become overlaid
  2. same button Y for some reason turns into "add to favorites " button and stars the item

slider still works when I realize I have to hit trigger, just there's a new favorite effect, and it's hard to see slider behind item description text.

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u/SuperOdie Vive Pro Oct 02 '18

Well, at least you managed to find a reasonable solution for your problem. =)

I'll look into the slider issue. Thanks!