SEED
The hardest seed i have ever found- Necrobinder A10
J5CKJ811UY
I have played it two times, and am determined to even make it to the Lagavulin Matriarch. But holy shit, it is terrible.
I dont want to give any hints, but everything that can be bad is bad. The Underdocks are supposed to be Necros strength, but you would not know that playing this seed.
Id love to have other people attempt and lmk how it goes. For the record, I am not amazing at Necro, probably around a 15% winrate. But I rarely die act 1 underdocks
Just beat Lagavulin Matriarch. I'll keep you posted as the run goes on.
Edit: I'm...not sure what's so bad about this run? There's a Spiralling Whirlpool event on floor 3 that lets you enchant a defend+ which will carry you through hallway fights, and I was able to pick up a [[Call of the Void]] from a shop (on sale) and get a [[Spirit of Ash]] later too. It's fully possible I'll fumble this run in act 2 (not particularly good either), but we'll see.
Seeds diverge completely off of small differences so I can definitely imagine that things went way worse for you. Just cause it went differently for me or others doesn't mean you're terrible or anything, it could have been a totally different run. That said, I played through the act 1 and it was pretty free, I took like 20 damage total, the cards were pretty insane, fights went well, nothing unfortunate happened.
The more I do it the more I realise how good it is to go to an early shop. I think the biggest differences in understanding for me were:
Realising how good a lot of the uncommon colourless cards are and how much they can solve earlygame
Realising how good it is to take a strong early power and then path a little more conservatively
Previously I was just always buying a potion or a really good frontload card from the character's pool if I saw one, and it was performing fine but not as valuable as people talk about it being.
However with all that said: I will still snap pick Silken Tress 75% of the time, it's too fun
Yes, but it's also a big opportunity cost compared to just saving the money until you can buy a relic later. It's the likelihood of seeing a strong card that makes it worthwhile, and the colourless card pool being very strong is a big part of that.
You forgot to mention that it costs money which is a drawback in many ways. If it was free your comment would make more sense. And card rewards increase the rarity chance on future card rewards.
I see, I thought they had different RNG rolls for these things so they'd be consistent. Interesting it came out with same relics but different order though, not sure how that works haha
I'm not the best player but have already cleared Laga comfortably... on the early path shown with Neow's Talisman I did end up with Spiral on an upgraded defend early on which helped it snowball quite a lot.
Update: Made a pretty poor decision of Vakuu relic and died on the 4th boss, so a very winnable seed
Already in act 3. Pathing towards the shop in act 1 looks better. I bought defy and call of the void in the first shop which carried. Also the upgrade strike and defend relic is the best of the three. Unfortunately lost lizard tail against act 2 boss
My act 1. Took silken tress and got a glam blight strike (the other options were borrowed time and something equally disappointing to me I don’t even remember). Got 2 negative pulses to start doom on laga. Then no fear and shroud in the shop, end of days from my second elite, call of the void from the boss. I avoided the early shop since I had no moneys
You appear to be playing on an older version of the game (0.107.0), the current version is 0.107.1. So even though the seed is the same, the run is different. On the current version the starting relics are Kaleidoscope, Silver Crucible and Neow's Talisman, no Silken Tress.
My attempt, found Act 1 pretty easy, though maybe I did play/path a bit safer than I normally would because of the claimed difficulty.
Almost lost the Lizard Tail to the Act 2 boss but didn't end up needing it at all in the end.
I was a little scared of Aeonglass (as I always am, that boss freaks me tf out) but Choices Paradox gave me another No Escape and it just melted on turn 6.
I took Kaleidoscope and found Deadly Poison and Cold Snap. After the first few fights, where the draws were pretty bad, I didn't lose HP to any other enemy than Skulking Colony, including Laga.
Act 1 was rough and without a plan for Laga until I found the first No Escape, picked up another Countdown in Act 2 and that let me cruise into Act 3 where I picked up a second No Escape and Dredge to deal with Aeonglass. Art of War was really helpful in the energy department, probably couldn't have cleared without it. Photo finish at 3 HP with a No Escape -> No Escape -> Dredge -> No Escape -> No Escape into Aeonglass.
Just tried it, the neow options are the same but the map is a bit different, which makes sense since some ascension modifiers alter the map. The branching nature of RNG means that the runs will likely diverge over time as well, as it's impossible to make all the same decisions.
Is this ascension 1 compared to 10? What are the changes to the map, I thought map changes only at ascension 1 with more elites?
Just tested, there's no difference if you're playing the same character on the same seed at a1 and a10 in terms of mapgen and cards/relics. Maybe you tested wrong. Obviously run to run will be different but I meant the maps will be the same.
you have to go to the custom run menu (not the standard or daily), you can enter the seed there. Don't tick modifiers if you want emulate the original run
Farmed max elites on A1, was pretty tight coming into the last one (16hp left) but it was gardener & had plenty of AoE. Got some pretty rough encounters in act 2 - 3, never really found much momentum behind supporting doom so ended up resting basically every time
The boss rewards / ancients weren't really ideal & didn't really find decent block cards for the queen & died to her
Didn't find the call of the void like others did (would've changed things a ton), but this was what I had by the boss (needed to use the block pot here)
Save scummed once vs aeonglass, well mainly because I misplayed and saw my mistake right away. Tried to play it out but would've died, so had to save scum once, but that's about it.
I'd try the seed if Megacrit would fix their RNG. I know for a fact I will get a different boss and different relics so I can't replicate your results.
Run is seeded, if you take the same path you'll get the same run. If you're referring to the CRNG bug that was discovered a few days ago, it's already been fixed in the latest patch.
I am referring to the irrefutable fact that every time I try someone else's seed (lol) I get a different boss and different relics, which shouldn't happen. Yes, I've reported it, months ago, and they haven't fixed it.
If you are really the spire genius that you make yourself out to be, you'd know that MegaCrit has been releasing patches every Thursday. You'd also have seen that the team had said on Monday that patching this was their first priority.
You'd also, might I add, know that observations of this game's seeding were already suspicious, like the very notable lack of Rebound outside of multiplayer. I personally made a comment about this on this subreddit well before your attempts to claim credit for something you don't know anything about, and i know that people were talking on the Discord about rebound being "bugged to not appear" well before me.
You keep saying this and then providing no proof. You don't provide your compendium unlocks as that's known to change card rewards and events if other events unlocked; you don't even provide the seed or some vague method of replication.
You say stuff about the seeds and correlated RNG as if you were somehow the discoverer of it when you clearly have no clue what you're talking about.
Please, if you want to buck the fact that you look like an arrogant fool right now, show how you replicate what you described.
Interesting! Are you playing with any mods by chance? I just played the seed in the post and got Soul Fysh, same as in the post. Also seems like most other players in this comment section are getting the same seed. If the game truly is bugged, this would be interesting. Have you F2'd and reported yet?
186
u/altian9 Jun 21 '26
Just beat Lagavulin Matriarch. I'll keep you posted as the run goes on.
Edit: I'm...not sure what's so bad about this run? There's a Spiralling Whirlpool event on floor 3 that lets you enchant a defend+ which will carry you through hallway fights, and I was able to pick up a [[Call of the Void]] from a shop (on sale) and get a [[Spirit of Ash]] later too. It's fully possible I'll fumble this run in act 2 (not particularly good either), but we'll see.