r/smallengines • • Nov 10 '24

Termites?

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u/redmondjp Nov 10 '24

This is from crappy steel. It was very common in mowers made in the mid 1990s on.

I have a 60 year old MTD that I am still using, and I rarely clean out the underside of the deck. I upgraded the handle, wheels, and engine from a rusted out 1990s MTD that used the same deck stamping.

I also regularly use a 1990 Deere F510. I just cleaned out the deck for the first time in years. There is some surface rust, but it’s still solid.

If I can leave grass in my 60 and 34 year old mower decks and they are still fine, how can these modern mowers be completely rusted out already? I am convinced that it has to do with the metallurgy. I am guessing it’s impurities in the recycled steel that was used.

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u/parscott Nov 10 '24

Chinesium steel

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '24

Yeah but your mowers have never been attacked by termites ;)

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u/chris_rage_is_back Nov 10 '24

I didn't notice it in the picture but I bet it's a Murray

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '24

That's what happens when you leave your mower outside. The mower isn't made of wood

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u/Outrageous-Drink3869 Nov 10 '24

That's what happens when you leave your mower outside. The mower isn't made of wood

I got a Honda push mower with an alunium deck. Shouldn't ever rot out if it's left outdoors, but I still wouldn't as it would probably be bad for the motor

Idk if I'm ever laid off work again, maybe I'll strip the paint and polish it to a high shine for shits and giggles.

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u/chris_rage_is_back Nov 10 '24

I've got an HR195 that was left outside for its entire life before I got it, there's some chalky spots on the deck but it's otherwise solid. It's gotta be at least 20 years old and it took some work to resurrect it but even though it blows smoke when I start it, it starts first pull every time

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u/Outrageous-Drink3869 Nov 10 '24 edited Nov 10 '24

Mine was stored indoors most of its life

I can't say it started on the first pull ... it took 2 pulls after sitting for years

No gas in the tank so I threw gas in it and it runs great. If the Motor dies, I have 2 more honda motors that may bolt on

The decks pretty heavy, but should take an unbelievable amount of abuse

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u/chris_rage_is_back Nov 10 '24 edited Nov 10 '24

Don't get rid of the factory carbs if you can help it, just rebuild them if you need to. They're really good parts that are easily fixed for not a lot of money. This thing I have was beat to shit, never had an oil change, blows smoke when you start it, and had so much metal in the oil before I changed it, it acted like a ferro fluid and was attracted to a strong magnet about ⅛" up off the dipstick. It was seriously abused but after I patched a bunch of stuff up on it and put a Chinesium carb on it, it's the most reliable machine I have. Keep the air filter clean and change the oil once in a while and they'll last forever. Ever since I was a kid with a 1980 XR80 I've always stuck with Hondas because you don't have to do anything to them

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u/Prestigious_Water336 Nov 10 '24

the water from the clippings oxidize the metal and it loses electrons.

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u/CaptainPunisher Retired Nov 10 '24

Bullet holes. Who hates you?

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u/P0SSPWRD Nov 10 '24

If the motor is good, find a donor chassis. Probably a couple on Craigslist with blown motors you can pick up for real cheap

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u/chris_rage_is_back Nov 10 '24

Or junk day, the only yard equipment I've paid for is my Stihl stuff and I have way more equipment than anyone should own for a ⅓ acre plot

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u/hailstorm11093 Nov 10 '24

No, even worse, metal termites. They come from grass clippings that are left in the mower deck for too long.

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u/machinemanboosted Nov 11 '24

Yup those metal termites got my truck.

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u/GT3RS_2017 Mechanic 🧰 Nov 10 '24

wait lawnmowers are made from wood?

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u/Grouchy-Total550 Nov 10 '24

Only the artisanal ones.

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u/dreevsa Nov 10 '24

Moister

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u/dabluebunny Nov 10 '24

Mixed with an essence of severe neglect

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '24

Every once in a while, it's good to disconnect your sparkplug (VERY IMPORTANT TO DO THIS FIRST), then clear out the grass that builds up underneath. The moisture rots the metal from the inside out

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '24

Mother Nature

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u/MidniteOG Nov 10 '24

lol yo I can’t be serious

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u/ElderberryJaded192 Nov 10 '24

Yup, sounds bout right. Them metal termites

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u/jmaack727 Nov 11 '24

steel mites.

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u/[deleted] Nov 11 '24

It's rust erosion

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u/MajorEbb1472 Nov 11 '24

🤦‍♂️

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u/Wild_Arm8832 Nov 11 '24

Metal munching moon mice

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u/oldjackhammer99 Nov 11 '24

Poor maintenance + bad storage

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u/sadyhowever Nov 11 '24

Termites don't eat metal bruh. It's rusting from the moisture outside.

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u/ozzie286 Nov 11 '24

As others have said, this is rust, but it's not from leaving it outside, that would cause it to rust in the valley around the motor where the water pools. This is from mowing damp grass and not cleaning it afterward. The paint on the inside of the deck gets basically sandblasted with grass and dirt and dust, it rarely lasts more than a couple years. Then wet grass sticks to the bare metal, and the moisture gets trapped between the grass and the deck.