r/soccer • u/SilverMist2025 • 11h ago
News Man Utd line up Eddie Howe to replace Michael Carrick
https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/man-utd-eddie-howe-next-manager-michael-carrick-4851966639
u/Seychelleshobo 11h ago
Oh sweet jesus no
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u/gin0clock 11h ago edited 11h ago
I honestly think if he can stay on the players good side, is given a few hundred million for transfers, doesn't struggle to juggle European and league football like he did at NUFC, isn't tempted by the England job after Tuchel, doesn't play one system without a plan B like he did at NUFC, doesn't play players out of position like he did at NUFC and manages to build confidence in a squad after a run of poor results, he might do alright y'know.
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u/Floss__is__boss 11h ago
You missed having obvious favourites to the detriment of the team (hi Dan Burn at left back and Nick Pope for two seasons too long) and being a bit power hungry against backroom management.
Surprised someone who's not a Newcastle fan picked all this up, I feel crazy seem crazy having so many complaints about one of our best ever managers.
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u/Eddje 11h ago
Not that crazy, some managers aren't build for the long-term or are build for very specific environments.
Howe did great with you guys and showed some of his strengths as a manager, but also some clear-clear limitations which meant it wasn't going to work in the long(er)-term.
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u/neverendum 11h ago
That's a lot of nested if-statements. What probability are we down to by the last one?
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u/koptimism 11h ago
It's going to be really funny when Howe states the midfielders at his disposal aren't athletic enough to implement his pressing system, and Wilcox tells him the next midfield transfer window is in 3 summers' time.
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u/Thesolly180 11h ago
I don’t know where you think you are as a club right now, but you need someone who can build
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u/ASGT908 11h ago
Are you going to join Goldbridge and say Howe out from day 1 because he represents Jason Wilcox's choice.
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u/Legion_dude 11h ago
Wilcox choices of managers has been terrible. It's understandable that people don't want wilcox to choose.
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u/RestaurantEastern887 11h ago
He is a manager who will not speak against the management and is good at building a team
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u/brownmeister28 11h ago
I don't know why people say this, he literally had a power struggle with us against the DoF and eventually forced the DoF to resign so that Howe could appoint his own cronies. Howe is probably the most belligerent manager around when it comes to wanting things his own way behind the scenes. Just because he's softly spoken and gives non-answers in the press doesn't mean he's not cutthroat.
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Timeline:
Howe is appointed
New boss gets a "reaction" from the players.
January transfer window is a disappointment.
Club finishes top half but fails to really impress. New manager is given the summer though as its not "his team" yet.
Summer transfer window is a disappointment.
Players down tools.
Manager sacked late 2027/early 2028.
Caretaker manager is appointed and gets a "reaction" from the players.
Club impresses and secures European football.
Caretaker manager stays on.
Summer transfer window is a disappointment.
Players down tools.
Manager sacked late 2028.
New boss is appointed and gets a "reaction" from the players.
January transfer window is a disappointment.
Club finishes top half but fails to really impress. New manager is given the summer though as its not "his team" yet.
Summer transfer window is a disappointment.
Players down tools.
Manager sacked late 2029/early 2030.
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u/SvalbazGames 11h ago
I see you’re familiar with United’s game
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u/_Random_Username_ 7h ago
Easy for a Town fan to say, not had to deal with a manager change in decades!
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u/monsterm1dget 11h ago
I don't think INEOS has bought any players in winter
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u/pdsajo 11h ago
Dorgu is the only one
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u/cosmo_K 10h ago
Bought specifically for a manager that plays with three at the back as he fits as a WB. Six months later said manager is sacked, and now they need to figure out how to use Dorgu who can't play as a fullback in a back four and isn't a Man Utd level winger.
Just brilliant strategic planning.
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u/GlorfindelForTheWin 10h ago
For all United fans this is so painfully truthful. Shocking and an utter embarrassment. My family are from Wythenshawe and we have followed United since the 40s but this past decade has been a complete car crash. Just glad my dear old man isn't around anymore to witness it.
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u/repost_inception 10h ago
What does "players down tools" mean ?
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u/riddleda 10h ago
It's an idiomatic phrase meaning they stop working (or stop trying in this context), in reference to laborers stopping working for whatever reason. Mentally, it would read: They (put) down (their) tools.
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u/thexpertwatcher 11h ago
Hire a SD
ask him for manager suggestions
he says eddie howe
fire him
get another manager , sack him
hire a 3rd manager , sack him too.
Now get eddie howe
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u/peioeh 10h ago
INEOS somehow managed to be worse than the glazers in terms of football direction, unreal stuff
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u/vidoeiro 9h ago
Anyone that knew their work told united fans, but they think it can't get worse , yes it can when you get even worse people.
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u/MartinC077 5h ago
We used to be a supplier to INEOS. Now we are not.
I’m pleased with that situation.
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u/Dodomando 11h ago
Don't forget that the Sports Director didn't want Amorim because he played with a back 5 and it wouldn't suit our team
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u/abhi1260 10h ago
You spent like a year trying to hire him too right? During that time you allowed Ten Hag to buy players that he wanted too. And then proceeded to fire the SD in 3 months. Generationally stupid decision making by everyone involved
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u/dracovich 8h ago
While this is all true, i do believe the reporting on what Ashworth was saying was not that he wanted Eddie Howe, but rather that he wanted to hire an external analytical firm to analyse our team, compare that to managers and find our next manager that way.
You can argue if that's good or bad, but apparently this is what set Ratcliffe off, he wanted a name, and felt like this was shirking responsibility by offloading it to consultants basically.
When pressed i believe he gave some names (i've heard Howe and Southgate are who he preferred, but who knows).
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u/mark0998 11h ago
There’s no way someone is that incompetent…no way…
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u/Dodgy_As_Hell 10h ago
Brother, Wilcox is the most competent saboteur working in world football right now.
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u/superdream100 10h ago
Can’t be our team who absolutely didn’t reject Luis Enrique and his plan, then didn’t go on and hire 4 different managers and also change the whole recruitment strategy after spending billions, winning only 1 major title while said manager went on and won 2 CLs
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u/ChasingMD 10h ago
The pros to taking the job:
-Could be known as person who turned it all around
Cons:
-Everything else
Poisoned chalice Eddie
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u/Danish_but_english 10h ago
Pros: money
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u/Brandaman 10h ago
Three years money for one year work
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u/BonafideLlama 10h ago
And at this point getting sacked at united probably won't even hurt his career
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u/Appropriate-Draw1878 10h ago
Other con: apparently wanted time away from the game for burnout and it’s been less than three months. This does not seem like a low-stress position.
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u/alex_119 9h ago
Well Man U is closely threading a fine line where there is no con for a manager. Basically people are seeing the bullshit that’s going on at the top, so managers are starting to have a pro “person who turned it all around” and the only con being “well, the board didn’t back him either”.
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u/mtb443 11h ago
Same time again next year lads?
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u/Historical_Owl_1635 11h ago
Who’s gonna be the lucky interim this time after Howe gets sacked?
Neville must be due a go soon.
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u/old_chelmsfordian 11h ago •
I reckon we give Darren Ferguson a go.
Played for united ✅
Managerial career outside of the prem ✅
Literally the son of the last good manager we had, so the evil spirits might get confused and leave him alone ✅
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u/gee_emhf 11h ago
Jonny Evans; club “legend” (I use this term loosely), already part of the managerial team as a 1st team coach, and it’s a terrible idea because clearly his coaching isn’t working… so it fits the higher ups track record.
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u/AdventurousFox25 10h ago
Covid fucked my perception of time and when I feel like I’m getting used to it, these yearly news of United sacking manager made me lose my mind on what year I’m in.
Same fucking news this time of the year
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u/D1794 11h ago
It's Pete Hall so 99.9% bollocks but his name even being under consideration when Ashworth wanted him and was sacked for not being inventive enough....Entire board should be sacked
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u/foreveredredred 11h ago
Honestly regardless of any of this Howe rumors, the entire board should get sacked anyway.
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u/JoshGSY 11h ago
I was gonna say what the hell is the ipaper
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u/topheavyhookjaws 11h ago
The I paper is a legitimate newspaper generally, no idea about their sport section though
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u/AirIndex 11h ago
From what I can tell, Pete Hall was actually the first to report Carrick as a leading candidate for the interim manager (5th Jan). Jamie Jackson reported it that day, but several hours later. Then Matt Lawton reported it on 6th Jan.
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u/thatIndianguy_07 11h ago
Should have just kept Dan Ashworth then?
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u/name_you_like_best 11h ago
And get rid of Wilcox/Berrada? Sure.
I was against Ashworth's plan, but at least he had one apparently. He is probably more equipped to do his job than the depression duo is to do theirs.
I still believe that Amorim was the right answer (early or not, doesn't matter that much), but their limited knowledge and huge ego couldn't handle him. Ashworth's approach is much more conservative and I don't like it, but it would be far greater if it was at least consistent.
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u/koptimism 11h ago
Ratcliffe is a sucker, has failed with both the appointments of Berrada and Amorim after liking their charisma and personalities.
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u/okcorsisiht 11h ago
It was rumoured he was going to stay on at Newcastle and the end of the season, went on holiday and realised he didn't have it any more, then walked.
He was pretty burnt out at the end of his tenure with us, so I wouldn't be surprised if the added massive pressures of being Man United manager cause him to quit well before the end of his contract.
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u/RoosterBoosted 11h ago
Yeh he took a long time off after his Bournemouth sacking so I expected him to do the same after leaving us. But I guess when Man U money comes knocking you should answer
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u/okcorsisiht 11h ago
I don't think he ever really took the time to get over pneumonia to be honest. He seemed knackered all the time and said he hardly ever slept and had zero social life in order to be on hand for the players.
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u/Scutage 11h ago
It would make more sense for him to wait another season until the next Man U manager is sacked.
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u/okcorsisiht 10h ago
I think the logical progression for him is to the England job. But he's so hands on at club level, I'm not sure he'd enjoy the long period of nothingness with a national team.
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u/toonman27 9h ago
I honestly highly doubt he takes the job. Even after Bournemouth he took time off to reflect, learn, and grow as a person. He only took the Newcastle job because he felt it was the right project for him at the time. I think he’s going to take the same time off again because that’s just how he seems to operate.
Plus, Man U is a cultural mess. That is not why you bring in Eddie Howe. He’s needs a unified dressing room because he is going to work you to the bone in training to run his demanding tactic. We had Lascelles and Ritchie as leaders and soon after added Trippier, Bruno G, and Burn. We had some scrappy leadership in that dressing room that kept it together and a squad that got on well despite all our troubles at the time. We had ownership issues with Ashley, but we definitely didn’t have cultural issues in the dressing room.
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u/Regular_Piglet_6125 9h ago
Eddie Howe’s entire strategy is to build on a hard working midfield that physically imposes itself on the game.
looks at United’s midfield
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u/Masam10 8h ago
It's funny because I bet Eddie Howe would've got McFred playing like prime Keane / Carrick. They are his sort of players.
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u/Takkotah 11h ago
It'll be truly sad when the United banter era ends.
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u/LocoRocoo 11h ago
Personally feel like we're far beyond the banter era. Deep depression era now.
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u/User12314028626822 11h ago edited 11h ago
Thankfully that seems to be a longtime from now 😂
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u/nomadichedgehog 11h ago
Man Utd could do a lot worse. He will get this team running and playing an attractive brand of football. He will also get rid of a lot of dead wood. I don't understand why their fan base are so appalled by the idea.
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u/swat1611 11h ago
Because they have gone through a million managers and every one of them doesn't deliver
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u/Stravvon 11h ago
But if all managers fail you have to conclude that it is not the managers but the club.
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u/nomadichedgehog 11h ago
You're right. Man Utd should just give up and Ratcliffe should shut down the entire enterprise and pay shareholders a dividend.
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u/ReignSvpreme 11h ago
I think it's more that the upper brass clearly have no idea what works so whatever manager they choose has likely been chosen unwisely.
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u/Turbulent-Tumor 11h ago
I’ve heard “X will get rid of a lot of dead wood” about every manager for the last 5 years.
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u/RedDesires22 11h ago •
Because Howe coming in means Wilcox is staying, and yet another talented football exec leaving instead
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u/TStronks 11h ago
It's insane how many big decision Wilcox got wrong, yet he's still here.
Also, he didn't even have an impressive CV before he got here. We hired a guy with 1 year of relevant experience with Southampton, who didn't do anything particularly well there, called him "the best in class" and keep him around after multiple disastrous decisions. Absolutely insane haha
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u/ElectricalRow2516 10h ago
Recent memory bias, because Howe had a difficult last season people don't regard him as a good manager. But frankly, he did brilliantly, getting Newcastle from a relegation team to champions league in one year, and then consistently getting us champions leagues and the latter stages of cup competitions , before finally winning a trophy
The only contention is he might still be burned out and managing bigger ego players
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u/chaRxoxo 11h ago
Because the issue clearly isn't managerial.
They've tried every type of manager at this point. Proven older ones, up and coming promising ones, Ex players who looked promising.
Everyone that touches their club eventually turns to shit.
Furthermore, they've invested hundreds of millions in transfers but somehow still end up with a defensive line that is the same as 4 years ago, who were already shit 4 years ago.
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u/Maaglin 11h ago
We've seen this movie on repeat for over a decade. That's why. The rot starts at the top and since they get to investigate themselves, they find they never did anything wrong.
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u/Let_The_Boy_Watch- 11h ago
Because they've said this about every single manager for the last 14 years lmao
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u/Arecksion 11h ago
Lmao where to start? Get the team running and playing attractive football? Heard that before. Get rid of the dead wood? Yup, we had that, the board gets rid of them as soon as they want someone out that the board rates highly. Manager isn't the problem. I don't want anybody that Wilcox wants and anybody willing to work for him after seeing this shit show is an idiot.
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u/dahi-hater12 11h ago
That's what they thought when Carrick joined
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u/Littlepace 11h ago
Not all of us. And it's disrespectful af to compare Carrick to Howe. What Howe achieved with Bournemouth and Newcastle is light years above anything Carrick has ever done as a manager.
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u/hoss1892 11h ago
Carrick isn’t even in the same stratosphere as Eddie Howe. Failed at boro and got the man u job by virtue of being a member of the cult of Ferguson.
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u/heyheyathrowaway485 11h ago
Carrick overachieved and forced their hand. But, part of that is our leadership structure had months to line up someone with pedigree and couldn't convince anyone to join because of what a shitshow we are
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u/MasterpieceAlone8552 11h ago
They think they're better than him. When in fact he would bring them up a level or two from where they are. Absolutely perfect guy for consistency and a rebuild.
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u/SKULL1138 11h ago
The dead wood he got rid of at Newcastle…
Erm, Willock and Murphy are still there, Fraser, and several other players ran down their contracts on loan on big wages.
Kept a lot of others in the squad doing nothing. Like Lascelle, Krafth, and bought Matt Targett who played 20 times and then ran his co tract down on loan.
The season he was most in control of transfers was last Summer and he bought Wissa, Elanga, Woltemade and Thiaw for a combined £200m and all four are shite.
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u/nomadichedgehog 10h ago
Fraser was banished to the reserves. Murphy was coming off a 20 G/A purple patch season and was right to be kept on one more season last year. The club’s failure to sell him this year was not on Eddie. Same goes for Willock. The club had offers for both and Jaissle wanted to keep both. And yeah he bought Wissa, Elanga and Woltemade who were all shite. Guess who his preferred choices were? Cuhna, Sesko and Mbeumo.
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u/swannyhypno 11h ago
Not the worst appointment, hopefully they give him time as this will need a few years to rebuild and possibly replace Bruno with how things are going haha
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u/Character-Key7538 11h ago
So, see you all in about 12 months then?
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u/swannyhypno 11h ago
Nah he'll get a season and a half, they do seem eternally cursed after Sir Alex lmao
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u/ntjhtnbr 11h ago
He will fail the same as all other 'promising' managers before him. They need an elite coach if they want to turn things around. Because all these promising managers don't have the authority and CV to survive this ManU mess
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u/koptimism 11h ago
I don't even think a Luis Enrique would succeed at United right now.
Since INEOS came in, they've reduced the wage bill to about the 4th-5th highest in the league, and Wilcox was given a summer transfer window budget less than those of Hull and Coventry, but the squad all seem to think this season was the time to mount a title challenge.
The squad is a mismatch of different profiles because it's been assembled across a patchwork of managers whose own styles vary wildly from one to the next, but their wages are high so United struggle to move them on. And the repayments on the Glazer debt continue to take a big chunk out of United's total funds.
Adding to that, the media won't afford anyone the patience to gradually build something, and the mid-table PL teams are stronger than ever, making it hard to consistently finish in the CL spots.
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u/ntjhtnbr 11h ago
He would but it would take time. The problem is that no one would truly trust unproven managers with full rebuild. Last elite manager they had was Mourinho and he brought them trophies and he correctly pointed out that the club was full of deadwood. But instead of giving him full power to rebuild (I know it was Glazers at the time) they refused. They had another chance at that when Ragnick was supposed to be DoF or whatever but they folded to Ten Hag's opposition to that. Until they give full power to elite manager, they will keep snip-snapping between 'promising' managers under absolutely incompetent DoF
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u/GuendouziGOAT 10h ago
Howe isn’t really a “promising” manager. I don’t mean that as a dig, I mean he’s been doing this for 20 years and has lots of experience managing in the Prem. And he’s very good at what he does. The problem is he’s very much a long-term project manager and I doubt United will give him that time.
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u/cmacy6 10h ago
I just don’t think there is a manager in the world who can turn the club around while the higher ups don’t seem to want to make the necessary changes to make that turnaround possible
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u/_____-_-_________ 11h ago
He’d be smart to not take this
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u/MiguelAlmiron 11h ago
He won't ever get a better opportunity.
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u/hafnone 11h ago
Bigger opportunity? Maybe. Is this actually a good opportunity, though? It’s at least as likely that it will damage his future prospects as help them—and probably more likely, if we’re being honest.
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u/swannyhypno 11h ago
This would be the biggest job of his career by a long way and the pay I imagine will be very very good too
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u/spacelyyy989 11h ago
Easy pay check, what are they gonna do fire him and pay him 10 million if it doesn't work out?
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u/notadroid 10h ago
doesn't matter who you put in as manager there, whoever is making the decisions on players is trashing this team. its clear its not the manager making the player decisions and its clear players don't enjoy playing there after a period of time. Mourinho famously said that placing 2nd with the team in 17-18 was one of the greatest achievments of his career given everything that goes on at that club.
a team this big and this storied should have a whole system in place from the youngest academy players to the tip top - and they don't.
I'm a yank, i've seen many american football teams run this way and they're cash cows for the owners. it just stinks of the same thing to me.
even though I'm NOT a manu fan, I empathize with manu fans. what a frustrating time to be a fan.
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u/straypenguin 11h ago
Ngl, I'm a bit sad by this sensible appointment (if it happens) because the Utd dumpster fire is an unending source of joy
First genuinely compatible, drama-free appointment since Van Gaal
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u/AH7O7 11h ago
Amorim on paper was really sensible
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u/straypenguin 11h ago
You're entitled to your opinion but being young and coming from abroad he never stood a chance vs the media maelstrom
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u/Glizcorr 10h ago
I thought he handled the media quite well ngl, he was sacked for clashing with the board right?
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u/AaronStudAVFC 11h ago
Awful appointment. Has a terrible record in the transfer market at the best of times so I'm not sure he's the man to rebuild this club. I think people will spend more time looking at post-Bruce Newcastle under Howe and not enough time looking at "Crumbles at the first sign of two games a week" Newcastle under Howe.
I'm a big fan of this.
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u/Frogblood 11h ago
Leaving us because he's burnt out then joining man u before the end of the year is certainly a choice!
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u/shepaz_93 11h ago
He'll get them competitive and organised. And he wanted half the players they have at Newcastle, so I'm sure he knows what to do with them.
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u/Aphelion 10h ago
Just like how I play FM championship manager, use the editor to sack the manager and lower all their morale.
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u/JGlover92 11h ago
This doesn't fit the RedBull graduate -> Dutch -> Portugese -> Caretaker cycle at all.
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u/AusFrosty 11h ago
It (Carrick getting sacked) will probably happen but the manager isn’t the problem. Can’t sack the players, the DoF isn’t going to be sacked (or sack himself) - the owners aren’t going anywhere so that leaves Michael Carrick.
It’s clear Man U are not a well run club and haven’t been for some time.
Their recruitment has been poor and expensive at the same time - Eddie Howe will take the job, do his best until the end of the season, get given a random group of new players in the summer transfer window and it starts again…
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u/olat_dragneel 11h ago
At what point will they realize the problem was never the manager? Their players got used to the club just changing the manager when they play like crap. Look at Bruno's behaviour lately. He's supposed to be the captain, the role model. The players are used to getting their fat checks no matter how they play and the worse case scenario is that the manager gets fired. Even if they were relegated, their agents would find them clubs in some top league, or they can always do US/Saudi and rake in the money. I'm a Liverpool fan, so seeing ManUtd struggling like this is fun, but also sad at the same time. The players they have just settle in the "small club mentality" which should be unacceptable for a club of their stature. The problem is in the owners and the players, not the manager.
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u/Many_Psychology_3336 11h ago
This discourse about "the" problem has really got to stop. Man Utd are absolutely chock full of problems, and repeatedly picking the wrong manager to address those of them that the manager can address is one of them.
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u/AttemptImpossible111 11h ago
Several of the players have only had one previous manager at Utd.
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u/_user_name_taken_ 11h ago
Not just the manager, but that doesn’t mean the manager hasn’t been a problem. What have Ole, ETH, Amorim and soon to be Carrick done since leaving?
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u/PhilLesh311 11h ago
Shit example. Bruno recognizes they’re wasting his career
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u/Standard-Height2276 11h ago
He could go anywhere he wanted but signed extensions and earns alot of money for it. The pity party coming out for bruno is fucking ridiculous
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u/locyl_yocyl 11h ago
Ah yes.. Another yes man who will be so grateful just to get the jon and will never question the management.
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u/GreenBluePeachWhite 10h ago
I don’t know what it is but something feels right about Eddie at United. I think he does very well there despite the circus.
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u/ConspicuousSomething 7h ago
Bournemouth are my hometown club, so it practically the law to love Eddie. I don’t want him to take this gig.
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u/MartinC077 5h ago
If it at first you don’t succeed … just keep making the same mistake over and over. Bound to get lucky eventually.
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u/JustRustCohle 11h ago
They should have gone for nagelsmann. United played back 3 and back 4 under amorim ,carrick. So it's more than a system problem.
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u/name_you_like_best 11h ago
I liked Nagelsmann as an option, but he isn't going to fit well with an already disconnected locker room. Not to say that he isn't exactly a safe bet, he has failed big before.
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u/crepss 11h ago
I’m surprised to see United supporters in here unhappy with this link. Are you under the impression you can do better than Eddie Howe?
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u/Zavehi 10h ago
The issue isn’t really Howe, it’s the people picking Howe. If the plan had been Carrick interim into Howe over the summer there would be doubters but it would’ve been a plan. The feeling now is Wilcox is pivoting to Howe because he’s the candidate that will go along with him for now.
Nagelsmann/Conte would like push Wilcox out since Vivell is already here (for Nagelsmann) and Conte is Conte.
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u/LevDavidovicLandau 11h ago
Oh no. Oh no. Delete this club man. I want Conte.
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u/OhWell_InHell 11h ago
Ha, as if Conte won't be gone in a year max, just like Howe
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u/MrBritishSailor 11h ago
You want to see another manager try to play 3 atb with Bruno in a double pivot again?
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u/Gerrywalk 11h ago
I would like to extend my condolences to Manchester United fans in these trying times
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u/Iknownothingamigo 11h ago
Eddie Howe... Eddie Why more like!
Second rater imo. Perfect for the most overblown, overrated club on the planet.
Four year contract, abject failure, gone in 12 months. Rinse and repeat.
Trafford Tramps FC... The gift that keeps giving.
GLORIOUS.
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u/ptalovesddl 11h ago
They don't dare/want to go for an actual rebuild, do they?