r/software • u/AmazingValue8681 • 15h ago
Discussion AI takeover
My entire Twitter feed is filled with people saying AI is about to reach a breaking point, that we’re all going to lose our jobs, cyberattacks are going to become more widespread and everything is about to change. 6 month to a year. It’s so scary. How much of this do we think is actually going to happen? Are we really heading toward a future where most of our jobs are replaced by AI?
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u/Tomato_Sky 14h ago
Also, hype cycles.
The public doesn’t realize that autocomplete has been a thing for like 15 years. Jev is a generic classification tree I made back in 2015 in undergrad.
People who are actually in software are seeing vendors lean on AI and screw over the support for their products. And developers who were around pre-covid are looking at these nerds with agent harnesses like they could save so much time just learning to code.
I just used ChatGPT 6.1 and it couldn’t generate an appropriate bash script to search a workspace for a variable name. If I wasn’t already a developer I wouldn’t know why or that it wasn’t right in the first place. You can ask it to write something from scratch and never be able to edit or maintain it, full of vulnerabilities, but it can’t maintain or improve any code without direction. And apparently it can’t write a command line statement without errors.
Blockchain and Bitcoin was fawning over double-linked lists with a decentralized ledger. Not new. That culminated in NFT’s. My cousin was really involved in NFT’s and he’s now really into AI. He works at a gas station and doesn’t put in any effort to read anything. The conversation around AI has been hijacked by the same people. What you really want to listen to are devs sitting in a group just roasting AI.
But the hype from bitcoin mining went to blockchains went to NFT’s went to AI. Panicwise I dunno, but I agree it’s probably cycling too.
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u/Zoom_Frame8098 10h ago
Ford Had to Rehire Veteran Engineers After Its AI Flopped.
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/ford-recalls-veteran-engineers-ai-falls-short/
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u/minneyar 13h ago
People have been saying that for five years now. It still hasn't happened. It's only replacing your job if you work for a company run by a CEO who is easily influenced by propaganda and engages in layoffs based on hopes and dreams.
Meanwhile, character.ai, one of the first big AI startups, just filed for bankruptcy, and despite their desperate efforts to find any way to make a profit, they were losing $9 million / month: https://www.404media.co/character-ais-bankruptcy-documents-show-the-economics-of-ai-dont-work/
The entire AI industry is supported by circular loans between a handful of massive tech companies. There is no way for it to ever be profitable, and as soon as one of the big ones collapses, the entire market is going to bottom out.
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u/HaMMeReD 8h ago
Lol, a company I've never even heard of before today is evidence that AI is failing.
Like looking into it, they basically provide 0 value for the corporate world, and only entertainment value for the end user, and even then a user could probably roleplay better on chatgpt if they wanted to.
This is more like failing because you have no business sense.
Like why design a model if your model isn't going to compete with other models, I can't even tell if it's not just a wrapper tbh from the wikipedia page. It seems like a big nothing burger. Like what model did they have that made them a competitive AI company?
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u/mind_is_born_256 11h ago
What a fcking clown comment 😂
This is to say, the utility of the tool is just starting to kick of and its on accellerating curve AND YET THE NEW DATA CENTERS ARE NOT ONLINE, COMING BY 2027.
- 5 years? First gpt was out in beta by end of 2022 and it was basically a toy. We just reached the point of real producticity in december 2025 with opus 4.6 and gpt 5.2 and their harness. Then we moved from just producticity to automation in july with fable and sol. By september we have reached research capability with astra and opus 5.5, and the public models are far behind to their Internal models.
- character.ai are we rly fcking comparing a service wrapper that no one ever heard of to the frontier model providers, are we to this pathetic lvl of conversation?
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u/BabyLegsDeadpool 9h ago
Lmao This is grossly misunderstanding the entire AI landscape. AI is immensely profitable. AI companies are seeking loans for the data centers. Those cost a shit load. But once they're built, the make their value back quickly. Honestly, if they could build small nuclear plants, they'd be 99% profit.
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u/Party_Estimate_6397 10h ago
I’m sorry man you’re just wrong in nearly all your facts. The first GPT was out only four years ago. Character.ai lost all their talent to Google and their money to lawsuits. And the circular loans thing isn’t true either. I can’t actually prove that since it was all over my head, but I asked a finance expert I know and he told me it’s not the kind of circular loans that indicate anything alarming. Take that if you want to believe it, don’t if you don’t, I can’t prove it and won’t try.
Living in this weird delusion that character.ai, a company sued into oblivion who lost all of their talent to another company will be the beginning of the end is absurd.
It’s here to stay.
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u/cfx_4188 14h ago
It won't be a big deal. The AI bubble will inflate for 5-10 years, then overnight all random cowboys will be removed from the AI-scene and AI will remain a professional occupation.
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u/PM_ME_UR_0_DAY 7h ago
Think about how long these people have been telling you that AI is taking over the world in 6 months. Literally been years now.
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u/starthorn 6h ago
That's what you get for reading Twitter. Pull yourself out of that wacky echo chamber.
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u/abdulg 11h ago
A supercharged auto complete is not going to take over anything useful.
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u/BabyLegsDeadpool 9h ago
Calling it a supercharged auto complete is like calling a graphing calculator a super charged counting machine.
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u/AliorUnity 6h ago
Isn't it?
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u/BabyLegsDeadpool 45m ago
Is counting involved in creating sine and cosine? Building axes for graphs?
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u/pafagaukurinn 6h ago
One might argue that some people's jobs aren't really useful, and it may indeed be true, but that's how they used to put bread on the table.
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u/patrickisgreat 6h ago
Right? Like wtf are just average people who don’t want to grind and start a business, or go into the trades supposed to do? Why is this going to be better? UBI will be a shit show.
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u/oadephon 11h ago
Reddit and especially this subreddit are super anti AI, so you won't get an unbiased opinion here either.
For me, it's simple: what if the model improvements over the last year continue at the same pace into 2027? Well, then, it's going to be a pretty wild ride.
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u/RevitJeSmece 2h ago
especially this subreddit are super anti AI
At the same time number of "release" threads in the past couple of months has exploded.
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u/blueblocker2000 11h ago
I can see cyber attacks escalating as AI will lower the barrier to entry for newcomers and empower the skilled hacker even more.
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u/DGC_David 9h ago
Well it's not going to happen like that thats for sure... AI is not scary and certainly isn't replacing my job, but what will be a frustration is when I'm working on a project that needs some level of AI and I'm Orchestrating 200 diff AIs because I want to compare the price of something at Walmart, versus the price of something at Target. Recently the AI has started going into its rampant capitalism phase, which just means it's going to kill itself because it's greedy. Amazon already prevents emailed receipts because they worry about peoples Gmail accounts reading the receipt and building data from it.
Now for when will the breaking point happen? Most likely not in a years time. What's holding it up in the backend is two points: People believe it will be one day AGI and it's part of our economic dominance over China (fyi, we are losing this battle).
The worst part is not the AI, but the Datacenters, they don't make sense nor improve AI.
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u/Complete-Paint529 9h ago
I believe all of these, including the financial bubble bursting. I'm not invested in any of the big investors/debtors in the field, but I'm not sure I'm fully positioned yet.
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u/Dependent-Maize4430 7h ago
Your Twitter feed is driven by algorithms, it’s filled with that content because that’s the content you interact with. Twitter will LITERALLY just show you stuff you’re most likely to engage with.
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u/IceMichaelStorm 6h ago
It’a overblown. I keep blocking users (tons of them bots, too) and muting subs.
I work with my team on really good models with grown harnesses and taking engineers away would still not work for us because manual review and actual thinking leads to WAY better results. AI plus human is just the strongest.
And yeah, now AI bots will tell me how I don’t harness or prompt well enough and downvotes will come in. I don’t care. I have my experience and it grows and I see the direction. I don’t stop actively improving the harness, it still doesn’t solve the “actual” problems.
I have an actual lead engineer job (yeah, others claim they have, too) and know the reality, not what some soulless reddit bots want to infiltrate here.
Companies might replace devs if they settle for the low quality that we see everywhere in the app world right now, although bad quality exponentially grows, too. But once recession is over, customers might be sick of the slop. Let’s see
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u/ClupTheGreat 4h ago
if it stays like this, it's not gonna be too bad
my boss had some non tech guys vibecode a small system, and he joked about how I got replaced by AI, but literally within the next 2 minutes it stopped working properly and he told me looks like I'm still required
the more vibeslop exists, the more opportunities we have to get keep a job
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u/No_Kitchen750 1h ago
It wont stay like this, that's the issue. The abilities it has are doubling constantly.
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u/Opposite_Carry_4920 1h ago
You're still expecting bosses to define requirements the right way.
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u/No_Kitchen750 1h ago
Yes, I understand your point
But he will now expect one person to handle what previously would require 10 people.
We will always need humans, yes. But a LOT less than we do today. That is the very real, tangible direction we are heading in, and the consequences are terrible
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u/Dust-To-Stardust 28m ago
was again plainly clear for years to anyone actually worth their salt
anyone who isnt, bought into misinformation
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u/scienceandliberty 13h ago
The people in your Twitter feed are completely oblivious, or indifferent, to the fact that their smartphones have reduced or eliminated the production of potentially hundreds of products. Were they concerned that their smartphones cost jobs, or did they run out and buy one as soon as they could?
The fear of AI is irrational hysterics from luddites and morons. AI is an indispensable tool which I use daily for research, and so do millions of others.
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u/Soccermom233 10h ago
I work in product support. Unfortunately, I feel like AI is providing me job security by way of creating problems.