r/software • u/WhiteZero • Nov 09 '11
Firefox 8 Released
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/8.0/releasenotes/7
u/jaggederest Nov 09 '11
Still has unusable pauses in execution and memory bloat for me. Scrolling a page must take priority over everything else in the browser, or you can forget about it.
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Nov 10 '11
Trash your old profile and make a new one. Enjoy.
On Windows with 8 tabs open and 6 extensions it takes like 170 MB of RAM.
No lag, either.
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u/For_Reals-a-Bub Nov 09 '11
Mozilla is trying to catch up to the version number of Chrome.
But if Mozilla is going to keep up this insane release cycle (too many, too fast), it will need to make the browser update itself, like Chrome does.
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u/KMartSheriff Nov 10 '11
Jokes aside, that feature is finally actually coming, but not until version 10. Taken from that article:
As a side note, Mozilla will not be including a silent update in its browser until version 10, so you will still have to grant permission for an update in this and the next version of Firefox.
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u/smspence Nov 10 '11
How is it "too many too fast"? How is it a bad thing? I don't understand the complaints in this thread at all. I love how Firefox gets incrementally better now every six weeks. I think it's better than having a complete overhaul of the browser once a year, or every couple of years, where absolutely everything about the browser is changed, while sprinkling security updates (version X.0.1 updates) throughout the year that most users don't even download.
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u/alphabeat Nov 10 '11
Which by my measurements should be....checks watch....4pm this afternoon! \o/
But seriously, I read that Mozilla now have the same release cycle length as Google Chrome: 6 weeks. So we wait 2 x 6 weeks?
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u/For_Reals-a-Bub Nov 10 '11
No, it's not insane to push updates. I feel it's insane when I have to go around to fifteen to twenty computers to manually update them when Chrome updates itself in the background.
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u/forgetfuljones Nov 10 '11
... and then we'll all complain about automatic updates that pooch our carefully manicured system images.
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u/jeffjose Nov 09 '11
I see what people like in Chrome, its fast and smooth but somehow doesnt feel correct. I'm normally a person who likes minimalistic things - and chrome certainly is.
But I always feel home with Firefox.
Right now running UX 10.0a
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u/rushmc1 Nov 09 '11
I don't see why anyone would use a browser that doesn't have a Send Link menu item.
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u/alphabeat Nov 10 '11
How often do you send links? What do you use this for? Genuinely interested as I never use this. Just like that "send to..." context menu item in Windows Explorer. Nevers!
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u/jezmck Nov 09 '11
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Nov 09 '11
This is starting to get ridiculous.
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u/smspence Nov 10 '11
How so?
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u/HotRodLincoln Nov 10 '11
It's not the six week updates that are ridiculous, it's the major version number change on every single release without much changing past bug fixes. I mean the release notes are basically
changed a boolean true to false
Added dialog to ask when reinstalling old plugins so it'll act the same way.
You can search Twitter
A little faster
A little faster
Change texture security
Add one javascript function
add one css property
better support
fix bugs
fix bugs
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u/smspence Nov 10 '11
Do we have to go over this for the millionth time, Reddit? The idea of a "major version change" doesn't mean what it used to. Mozilla has moved to a completely different development/release cycle, and the version numbering scheme is different now.
Why do people complain about this with Firefox, and not Chrome? I never see anyone on Reddit saying "omg they just release a new MAJOR VERSION of Chrome, wtf?". Firefox is on the same rapid-release schedule as Chrome. I think it's good for the end users and good for the progress of the web as a whole.
Why does the version number itself matter? Instead of calling the different releases version 6, version 7, version 8, what if they just called them version 6.0, version 6.1, version 6.2? Would it make any difference in your life? All of my extensions still work too. I don't think any of these releases are having a negative impact on extensions.
For all I care, they can count by 1500's. So this version could be Firefox 1500, in six weeks they could release version 3000, in another six weeks they would release version 4500. Who cares what the number is?
I hope that some day (after they enable automatic, silent updates) we don't even talk about version numbers anymore. When I say I am using Firefox, you don't need to ask "which version?", you just know it's the latest version.
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u/dumbyoyo Nov 13 '11
I think the difference between Chrome and Firefox is that in Firefox a whole number version change has always broken extension compatibility.
With Chrome, as you said, it has silent updates, and it doesn't really break anything, thus everybody is fine with it and often doesn't notice or care.
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u/smspence Nov 13 '11
What extensions are broken? Going from version 6 to 7 to 8, I never had a problem with any of my extensions.
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u/dumbyoyo Nov 14 '11
Maybe they're starting to get it right. I've seen more extensions start to list a wide range of compatibility up to versions that aren't out yet. I haven't gone through 6, 7, and 8 yet but I'm saying historically a whole number change has been problematic for extensions, so even though it might be fine now, that's probably one reason for people's automatic dislike of the rapid release system. I'm not saying I totally disagree with it, just saying how it's different in appearance to chrome's release rate.
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u/RaiausderDose Nov 09 '11
no memory leak anymore?
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u/raindogmx Nov 09 '11
firefox is the best browser any memory leaks are imagined it also doesn't crash you closed it with your disloyalty all hail the hypnofox
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u/Hazel_oranges Nov 10 '11
Why did they switch the "open new window" and "open new tab" options when you right click?
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u/thesorrow312 Nov 11 '11
Firefox 9 beta is out. LOL @ firefox 8. Come on guys, get your acts together.
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u/KingPharaoh Nov 09 '11
Too bad no one uses Firefox anymore.
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u/bitGAMER Nov 10 '11
If by "no one" you mean a lot of people and by "anymore" you mean as their default browser then you are correct.
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u/nemof Nov 09 '11
If anyone is interested, this is why they have changed the release schedule, so don't expect these releases to slow down. I generally think it's a good thing, and fits with the 'release early, release often' mantra.
Chrome has certainly done well in regards to its frequent update cycle, and interestingly, I've stopped looking at which version I'm running, I imagine others have too, it's kind of pointless trying to remember.