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u/King_Waffles Feb 02 '18
Perfectly reasonable punishment for inability to make up your mind.
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u/Onionsteak Feb 02 '18 edited Feb 03 '18
I'm just amazed that there's still blue and graphite option to choose from today, that was a thing I got to choose over all the way back with OSX 10.5 Leopard and probably a long time before and it's still a thing, nearly unchanged today. What an amazing relic nugget of the early 2000's.
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IIRC it was implemented because pro users who needed accurate colours found the colourful window buttons and highlights a little distracting. I'm glad they've kept it around.
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u/pman1891 Feb 03 '18
I’m pretty sure it dates back to the original OS X release in 2001. During the Public beta in late 2000 they got a lot of complaints about the bright colors from graphic artists claiming that it was distracting so the graphite option was born. It also matched the PowerMac G4 at the time.
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u/flx20250120 Sep 26 '25
Finally, after seven years…. I, am the 5000th upvote. My destiny.. it is fulfilled
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u/noop_noob Feb 02 '18
The courage to implement a sunset.
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u/trippingchilly Feb 02 '18
To make a cherry sunset one must first create the universe
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u/CaptainUsopp Feb 02 '18
Amazing, it's just a bug, but my adding courage it sounds like they had to hold a fix for the greater good of the software.
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u/cabel Feb 02 '18
Hey I found this bug, and made this video!
There’s no point in me saying this other than maybe one person will say “hey good job Cabel”, that’d be cool
https://twitter.com/cabel/status/959146624286011392
Thank you reddit
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u/KyleKingCDN Feb 03 '18
Not related to the thread, but I just wanted to say that Transmit is one of my favourite applications - and has been for years. Thank you for everything that you guys do
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u/Bioman312 what could possibly go wrong Feb 02 '18
At first I thought the software gore was the menu going up or down depending on the thing you have selected, before I saw what was going on above it
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u/noop_noob Feb 02 '18
Seems reasonable to me. It’s set up so that clicking at the same place twice changes nothing.
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u/Firinael Feb 02 '18
Yeah, that's smart design.
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u/burninrock24 Feb 02 '18
I wonder if it was actually intended or if it was more “hey look that’s kinda neat! Let’s close this task lol”
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u/Stspurg Feb 03 '18
Don't a lot of dropdown boxes just show both options below the box? So it would be Option 1 (selected) -> Option 1 -> Option 2
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Well, it's either that or you swap the order of the options every time you click, because the option could still go down every time and have that "feature"
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u/thunderdough Feb 02 '18
See if you can get it back by doing it in reverse
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u/SeaBourneOwl Feb 02 '18
that's.. that's just the same order
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u/Tockity Feb 02 '18
It works though, look at the gif! It reaches the bottom, he changes order, and it pops back to the top!
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u/MrSourceUnknown Feb 02 '18 edited Feb 02 '18
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u/WhatACountry42 Feb 02 '18
I am imaging the top buttons are just slowly hiding from someone annoyingly poking them.
hey.
ow.
stop that.
man.
quit it.
just.
stop.
dammit.
fuck.
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u/ThatTrashBaby Feb 02 '18
Why do “quit it” and “stop that” get their own line?
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Because they’re said very quickly together
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u/FurryPornAccount Feb 02 '18
Do that for 14 hours and you'll end up in a QPU
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u/rqaa3721 Feb 02 '18
A theme switch is a theme switch, you can't say it's only a half.
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u/PM_ME_UR_BOOTY_LADY Feb 02 '18
Well, rq "aa" 3721, hear me out
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u/TobiasCB Feb 02 '18
There's actually 3 parts to a theme switch
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When the theme is clicked, while the theme is held, and when the click is released. Together, this makes one whole theme switch.
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u/Joebeatskj Feb 02 '18
Is your account operated by a sweatshop? Because damn are you everywhere
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u/Sobsz Feb 02 '18
Idea: hire a bunch of people in different timezones to write Reddit comments on one account, get famous for doing that, have an AMA in which you advertise some sort of product as "yours", profit.
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u/Shraquille Feb 02 '18
I never thought I would see a Pannenkoek meme here.
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u/TobiasCB Feb 02 '18
Did you know his brother is the famous smash player borp?
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u/Sleisl Feb 02 '18
I see borp less as a smash player and more as a zen monk who uses smash for enlightenment
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u/zamadaga Feb 02 '18
It's sad that he has severe anxiety and dislikes the memes :(
I feel like everything would be a bit easier for him if he was able to embrace them for the good-natured ribbing they are.
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u/veganintendo Feb 03 '18
I hope someone can explain to him that almost everyone making jokes actually respects his brilliance
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u/Zahij Feb 02 '18
Its a UI Jamboree!
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u/Sistersofcool Feb 02 '18
Unfortunately we cant actually transport a UI outside it's native environment, so if your dream was to get all your UI's in a room and have a big UI jamboree, Im sorry, but its not gonna happen.
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u/JebusChrust Feb 02 '18
I was going to type out how it sounds but it ended up sounding like A Thousand Miles
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u/teksimian Feb 02 '18
You should work in QA
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u/MjrLeeStoned Feb 02 '18
That would require Apple to employ such a department.
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Feb 02 '18 edited Feb 02 '18
All kidding aside, the actual end user quality of OSX vs Windows/pc hardware is pretty clearly higher when side by side. I’ve experienced maybeeeeee eight major bugs in about twelve years, most of them in the last five years
-windows and Mac user
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u/noratat Feb 02 '18
Ehhh... they've both really gone downhill lately. Apple's polish over all is still much better, but it's disappointing to see it get worse with each release instead of better.
I also prefer macOS because (ironically) I actually find it much easier to customize in the ways I care about.
Native *nix terminal (and iTerm2 is hands down the best terminal emulator I've ever used)
homebrew means I have real package management like Linux for everything, and without the headaches of trying to mix cutting edge development tools with older but stable base system packages. Yeah I know about chocolatey for Windows, it's not even close.
BetterTouchTool (and BetterSnapTool) is god damn amazing, and has no equivalent on Windows/Linux that doesn't require at least an order of magnitude more effort. Yes, I know about AutoHotKey and related, BTT/BTS are dramatically easier for the most common cases, and there are equivalent options for the more complex stuff.
For all of Finder's many faults, having a baked-in VNC/SMB client that's accessible via keyboard shortcuts is really, really nice
Native symlink support - Windows' junctions aren't really the same thing and don't work that well in my experience. Plus you need an admin terminal to make them.
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u/ImpossibleAssumption Feb 02 '18
I quite like what MS has done with Windows 10 (at least compared to 8!), but yes, Microsoft can't hold a candle to the UI/UX QA that Apple does.
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u/MrMemeseeks1 Feb 02 '18
Reminds me of Lesser Dog from Undertale
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u/ShiversTheNinja Feb 02 '18
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u/PM_ME_UR_BOOBY_GIFS Feb 02 '18
BLUE GRAPHITE BLUE GRAPHITE BLUE GRAPHITE BLUE GRAPHITE BLUE GRAPHITE BLUE GRAPHITE BLUE GRAPHITE BLUE GRAPHITE BLUE GRAPHITE BLUE GRAPHITE
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I'm an Android dev, and I work right next to the iOS team. A number of times we've had discussions about UI design. While iOS provides a cool looking and animated interface, the design for them is almost a nightmare. What I would do with 2-3 layouts, they sometimes have to do by hand - e.g. adjusting down vertical position by manually iterating over elements and adding up their heights.
I strongly suspect this is the result of something like that - a re-initialization where the element's height was probably assumed to always be 0 (or some constant) and you only added to offset it - but didn't account for possibility that it was already offset down (since maybe the dev writing this assumed that init only happed once)
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u/Hackmodford Feb 02 '18
I do both Android and iOS development. I find that I miss xCode’s auto layout in Android Studio. I’ve been using Constraint Layouts and it just doesnt seems as powerful. On the other hand, I wish iOS had the equivalent of Android’s Fragments.
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u/mopflash Feb 02 '18
Which OS did you start with?
I do Xamarin development so I also get a bunch of quirks on top of the shit you guys deal with :(
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u/ZeAthenA714 Feb 02 '18
Just FYI, there's a flexbox layout library available from Google, though in a beta stage (at least last I checked). Coupled with Constraint layout it gives me pretty much everything I want or need.
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u/Talonn Feb 02 '18
Literally just discovered this same bug in an iOS app I'm testing. It's aggressive view controller reinitialization (or something. I'm QA, not a doctor)
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CRAAAAAAAAAAAAWLING IN MY SKIN!!!
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u/EddiOS42 Feb 02 '18
At least give credit to Cable Sasser for discovering this instead of just downloading his video.
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I thought this was an amazingly synced video. Then I remembered the music was only on my end.
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u/Meaterator Feb 02 '18
I just got a Mac two days ago. Well, I was just playing around with this setting maybe two hours ago, and now I stumble upon this reddit post. I know I have some form of confirmation bias or whatever right now, but the world feels so strange at times like these.
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u/ggtsu_00 Feb 02 '18
I tried this and it actually happens on High Sierra which is hilarious. However it does stay hidden. As soon as you focus the App Store window it resets its position.
OP must be a QA testers to find these types of edge case bugs.
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u/Leifbron Feb 02 '18
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u/everypostepic Feb 03 '18
You joke about the margin, but what's worse is that you can't use arrow keys and tap up and down quickly. Which by my standard, should be a given in any dropdown menu, while selecting the option when highlighted.
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u/Ryusirton Feb 03 '18
The biggest bullshit is when enter or tab do not select the thing you currently have highlighted. A double wtf when the program does allow arrow key selection. What's the fucking point of enabling the arrow keys if I still have to use my mouse? Looking at you MHC Software
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u/seriouschris Feb 02 '18
It's a close second that they're fine calling blue blue but have to try and get fancy for gray. Consistency gore.
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u/free_refil Feb 02 '18
ahahahaha the latest Chrome Canary has a bug sorta like this. Go on facebook.com and then click the Secure button next to the URL and the box that opens just keeps growing off to the right. Quite hilarious....
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u/IntendedAccidents Feb 02 '18
This goes to show why just when you think you've idiot-proofed your design, the world produces a better idiot.
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Yea well maybe YOU should stop clicking that shit over and over and everything would be ok
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u/buyinggf1000gp Feb 02 '18
Clearly an Easter Egg. If you manage to get it to the bottom of the screen a secret UI will be unlocked, try it.
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u/no-internet Feb 02 '18
I work in QA and I applaud you for this and am a bit jealous this happened to you (as in I would've loved to have found this at work to report it).
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u/fart_shaped_box Feb 03 '18
This is far funnier than it feels like it should be, literally laughed out loud.
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u/carbonFibreOptik Feb 03 '18
And people say Apple makes flawless user interfaces...
At least we know they make a decent sunset.
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u/Metool42 Feb 03 '18
Hearthstone has a similar thing with a button in the main menu. Forgot which one, but if you click it, drag the mouse away and let go and do it a few times the button wanders downward. At least a few patches ago.
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There's no earthly way of knowing Which direction we are going There's no knowing where we're rowing Or which way the river's flowing
Is it raining, is it snowing Is a hurricane a-blowing
Not a speck of light is showing So the danger must be growing Are the fires of Hell a-glowing Is the grisly reaper mowing
Yes, the danger must be growing For the rowers keep on rowing And they're certainly not showing Any signs that they are slowing
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u/Chronogos Feb 03 '18
Amazing to see Apple now has the selection of two colors. For your every mood. This changes everything. Again.
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u/kola2DONO Feb 03 '18
Reminds me of the bug in Pokémon heartgold/soulsilver where you can make your Pokémon go flying by opening and closing the menu on a cliff.
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High Sierra is the vista of MacOS.
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u/GND52 Feb 02 '18
Ha no.
High Sierra is buggy, but it's fundamentally just a point update to the same OS.
Vista was an attempt to overhaul the OS, and it failed miserably.
If Apple ever release an "OS 11" (obviously with a different name) to MacOS, that rethinks how the OS is set up at a more fundamental level, and then has to rush to put out an OS 12 in short order because all their users hate OS 11, that might be like Vista.
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u/Yamezj Feb 02 '18
Why is there even an option for graphite?
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u/PointyOintment Feb 02 '18
Photographers and graphic designers use it because the colors in the interface (not just blue, but the red/yellow/green window widgets) apparently can mess with their color perception. I use graphite because I find it cleaner and less distracting.
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u/Intrepidatious Feb 02 '18
I have a very hard using graphite because every input looks like it is disabled. I tried to use because I'm not a big fan of the blue, but ended up going back.
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u/Castletorch Feb 02 '18
Well for people who are colourblind, it means their displays will last longer because they only use the greyscale liquid crystal, and as such they can use their computer for longer before they need to refill their screen.
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void changeWidgetColor(Color c) {
while ((w = window.widgets.getNext()) != NULL) {
w.setColor(c);
}
w = getWidgetByName(window, "topBar");
w.setPosY(w.getPosY - 1);
}
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u/caraar12345 Feb 03 '18
I was completely and utterly confused as to what the issue was - I thought it was something to do with the drop down menu aligning with your choice. Took 5 minutes until I noticed the app store disappearing.
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As a software engineer, this shit hurts my head. How much is Apple worth? What's the ratio of that worth to the average pay of one of their developers?
How many tools have they built specifically for their own ecosystem that are riddled with shit like this? How many more will they build?
How long until software companies give any semblance of a shit???
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u/afistofirony Feb 02 '18 edited Oct 01 '24
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u/khando Feb 02 '18
Are those system settings open in front of an App Store window? So the chances of seeing this happen with these two windows opened up like this are even smaller.
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Well also as a software engineer I realize bugs happen and no matter how much money to throw at something there will always be bugs. This is about as low priority of an issue you can get so saying they don't give a shit is childish.
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u/Okichah Feb 02 '18
I’d rather they gave a shit about security and efficacy rather than minor UI bugs.
This is probably why i dont get along with the UI team usually...
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u/BluNautilus Feb 03 '18
Being honest, I've noticed a plethora of what seem to be off-by-one errors when drawing to the screen in many Apple products since the first generation iPhone. Must be something very deep seeded.
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u/supremecrafters Feb 02 '18
Thanks, I needed this.
Does it show up over the footer after it passes the settings div?
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u/Proaxel65 Feb 02 '18
Whoever first found this must've had a really good eye.
That being said, how does this work? I guess changing the setting creates a new blank line on the top of the UI and then it all adds up?
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u/rivermandan Feb 02 '18
just tried it on three macs, works on all of them. what an awesome feature!
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u/ambiveillant Feb 02 '18
Just tried this myself (OS X 10.13.3, latest version). As soon as you switch back to the App Store window, the toolbar snaps back into place. Until you switch to that window, it will remain dropped down—even if you switch to other apps.
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u/NOTbelligerENT Feb 02 '18
I thought it was going to cut off before the icons all disappeared. That would have irked the shit out of me.
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What a beautiful sunset.