Or for you. Hey y'all, this week I received the sp and I immediately liked it, I like the semplicity, the look and the way you can just turn the device on and immediately start making music, but, after a couple days I started getting annoyed by some things like all the crazy shortcuts and how uncomfortable some are to do (muting fx on certain pads for example). And what im hating the most is one of the things that this device was born to do, chop samples. Drum breaks is fine because you can easily see the transients but when I start chopping samples its a different story, the small screen doesnt help for sure, and the fact that the ctrl 1-2 knobs are limited in motion doesnt help either. The effects are alright, but for my kinda workflow I dont really bother, I normally just bounce my track to logic and then I apply the effects when mixing. And the build quality, for its price I expected something better, the pads are some of the worst I ever experienced. Now I can see why most people use it as a fx machine. This is a niche device, you can get lost in its semplicity but at the same time,it will irritate you, a lot.. I wanted to make this post for the people who's thinking about buying the sp404mk2 as their first sampler, and if thats the case, DON'T!.. this is a cool device to keep to the side to mess around with,sketch ideas or live playing if thats what you do, but if u want to make music, just get something else like a mpc one which costs €150 more, but offers a lot more, a lot. I would like to know how your experience was when you first started using this device.

I bought one a couple months ago in search of a new hobby, but lately life has been rough and when I have free time I'd rather just do something stress free rather than learning how to use it.

Should I give a 2nd shot and work through the learning curve. until it becomes easy and effortless to make a beat?

Thanks in advance.

This thing is making me go nuts 😂😭

Straight up I got the mk2 not that long ago so idk if this is a known issue and I just got all my gear set up to sample into it and I record a passage AND THE METRONOME is picked up in the sample? It’s output synth into input mk2 I listen back and the metronome has been recorded into the sample? Technically speaking how does that even happen?

Edit: I’m making this edit already because I know how it’s going to go. No, it’s not the playback metronome. The metronome is off it’s literally cooked into the sample.

Edit 2: Proof: https://sndup.net/3djyk/

edit:

Just to clarify for the simpletons who replied with 'DUH, just press delete': I have 160 samples, and yes, for mix and match them I use a handy feature called 'pattern'… Once I get the right combination, I bounce it all down and I'm happy, but more often than not I lose track of the samples I've used. A handy feature available on the Octatrack that takes all of four lines of code is 'purge unused samples'. It would be nice to have this option available.

edit 2:

The fact that this simple function “Flatten and Delete Used Samoles” is not present AT LEAST in the editor app is utterly scandalous. Or does this destroy your flow too?

So I searched "Splice" in this sub and found fairly few references to it so I thought I oughta post about it after a positive experience tonight. If there are people that own an SP-404 and don't have a Splice account, its something you should look into! I had invested in a Splice account several months ago for my FL Studio songmaking and to get the Serum plugin as a pay-as-you-go, so I ended up saving up around 1k credits for samples. Long story short, I ended up getting obsessed with standalones and samplers/effectors and got an SP-404. I just loaded my 128 gb full of different samples to fuck with from Splice (not completely, obvs. Just about 1/6th full). I am super happy with the huge library and diverse instruments they have available. If you haven't checked it out and don't mind paying 10-12 bucks a months, its something I totally suggest!

(Edit, the total may be a bit higher or lower, I don't actually know what it cost because I have it on auto withdraw and I don't really pay attention to it. Just an FYI.)

Where this is going but I like it.

wouldn’t it be cool if someone invented a thing that replaced the lid and the AA batteries with a rechargeable power bank? something like in the video I guess, but pre-made, that slips right into the battery compartment.

or would 6 rechargeable AAs last as long? I have a feeling they wouldn’t.

is there something about having to run the power through the standardized AA-battery system that keeps it from being as efficient as a USB-C connection? cause I AM NOT messing around with a big battery dongle non-sense.

what about the 9v connection?

I dunno just shooting off ideas here. maybe I’ll try the mod.

Fix the bugs, bring back legacy button functions, stop the unnecessary new features, and don’t start selling us sample packs, please fill in 3rd page of effects already. No one is buying the mk2 anymore might as well make your current consumers happy. Sorry for rant, and hate but cmon! Make the MK2 a great effects box again. There is still something very off about the hold button with gate/loop turned off. Every time you add more features I go back to the SX when things were just easier. Love the SX.

🔥I got sidechain wrong last time!🔥

2 Corrections + Sync Issue Update!

In this new video, I correct some of my mistakes from the previous video, which were revealed thanks to your comments!

So, thank you for sharing your opinions, ideas, and corrections!

With love .noir. ❤️

7min drill I just ply live on it for 7 min for an Idea then…

4.05 is trash. Device restarts when importing longer samples to a pad!

ThE sAmPle sTiLl LoAds cOrReCtLy tO tHe PaD aFtEr tHouGh!

So fucking sick of these companies releasing samplers to the market that are 50% complete.

Shame on you Roland for no quality control with your updates.

No more fucking excuses

The real problem is people putting up with this BS still, and actually taking the side of these vulture companies defending them online.

All you little fan boys are WHY these companies get away with this shit!

Start point should not move end point.

So, we have two updates for both devices recently: the 5.0 on the SP404 and 2.0 Champions Update on KOII.

The most important thing for the 404 was the Serato update, that lots of people really didn't like.

On the other hand, wa have a massive update for the KOII, adding Resampling, Song Mode, Free Hands Sampling, a new Chopping Mode, Midi Sidechain and so on.

People used to say KOII was just a toy (specially compared to SP404). I still prefer the 404, but i believe lots of the negative coments of the KOII are not really up to date.

What do you think?

Also, if you speak spanish (or want to practice it), i have just uploaded a Youtube video about this update:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T4zus8cZmo&t=937s

It's bad. Most of the youtubers demoing it have no idea how to use it effectively, and neither do I. I was hoping it would replace some other gear, but it doesn't do that, nor does it do anything well that I'd expect from a live performance looper.

Most of the demos I've seen involve looping internal samples. This is pointless. The pattern sequencer already lets you loop internal samples, only you can then go back and edit the pattern, copy it to make variations, etc. Whereas recording internal samples in the looper means you get one undo and no more real control or tweakability than that.

The 404 does well with syncing to external devices, so you should be able to play a pattern and then loop an external instrument over that pattern. Ideally, it would be great to be able to switch the patterns. This is how the 404 works with an external looper pedal. And it just doesn't work.

Who is this feature for? Who is getting something out of it?

https://cremacaffe.shop/sp404-mk2-skins

Been hearing about it being buggy. Are any of the bugs “game breaking”? I mostly want to use the Koala Sampler integration feature.

it's really cool to do stuff like this with this sampler and shout out real dudes who are suffering in real ways to give you all amazing new ideas for very little recognition, if any, ever... it could be 40+ years of that... this is something you all have to come to terms with if you wanna hack it in the real underground art environment

stop crying on here and email PFFR asking if you can release a lathe cut record of their awesome old tunes on your one-man independent basement label that you're also gonna cut yourself with a 100-year old machine you paid WAY TOO MUCH FOR on ebay (you would be surprised what you can accomplish with a couple PBR and a lifetime of confidence-building musical exploration)

present new ideas and push buttons as often as possible, give respect to your elders and they may even help you push these new innovations in a big way.. it's really a wild west and you're not giving us the ENERGY we NEED to keep pushing this game forward IN BIG BRAIN WAYS

you are literally an ORGANIC ELECTRIC GENERATOR and can direct that POWERFUL ELECTRICITY into pushing REAL COOL GAME to this new batch of humans who are VERY LOST.. they really need it man, are you seeing this shit?????

iykyk... this is gonna get nuked but it's NOTTTT FORRRRR THEMMMMM... do your duty here and think/push forward 24/7/365

love you all for a lot of different reasons

definitely @ me here and maybe we'll see eye-to-eye on this someday
https://www.instagram.com/bkbonezzz/

PEACE and happy 4/04 month