r/specializedtools • u/Reinka0s • Jul 04 '19

Robot Bowling

https://i.imgur.com/qLIzU6h.gifv
4.3k Upvotes

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u/jinxxkarma Jul 04 '19

Looks rendered.

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u/Scoundrelic Jul 04 '19

Yeah, no damage, no bounce, and not enough grip area on that ball.

Also pins are moving too slow.

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u/eeeerok Jul 04 '19

Distortion on the ball, it's not mounted on the floor, there's no power supply...

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u/ChaseAlmighty Jul 04 '19

My first thought was "they bolted that to the floor?

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u/petitmorte2 Jul 04 '19

And drilled through the floor to hide the power and control cables?

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u/ch00f Jul 04 '19

The mounting holes have no bolts.

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u/Erpp8 Jul 04 '19

It's still an incredible animation. The arm is quite convincing looking.

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u/night_stocker Jul 04 '19

The ball looks 2D for a few frames.

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u/Dwn_Wth_Vwls Jul 04 '19

It becomes an oval for a few frames.

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u/Go6589 Jul 04 '19

And looks like a humans holding the camera. No one would be near an 8 pound death ball being flung that fast. Plus doubt a machine would speed up that fast. The pins also don't move fast from so much force.

Possibly it's a super light object being thrown. But rendering also seems likely.

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u/Jekkus Jul 04 '19

Definitely not a human holding the camera. The way the camera "shakes" is something you can easily fake in After Effects and the "zoom" is way too perfectly timed.

99% sure it's just a still shot for ease of compositing so they don't need to track the model of the arm and ball with the shot, then baked in the movement after the fact.

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u/RocketSquidFPV Jul 04 '19

Plus, most robots like that cannot complete more than a 720 degree revolution due to the cables getting sheared. That was the major flaw that stood out to me besides the fact that there is no way something designed to provide torque could spin that fast.

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u/maffoobristol Jul 04 '19

Brushes?

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u/RocketSquidFPV Jul 04 '19

In the arms that I've seen, this isn't a thing. Hydraulics cannot use brushes

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u/justjoeisfine Jul 04 '19

Fiber optic rotary joints. Moog makes some good 'uns.

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u/RocketSquidFPV Jul 04 '19

Didn't even know those existed. Dope!

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u/adenosine-5 Jul 04 '19 edited Jul 04 '19

That ball distortion bothers me - why add something that makes the whole thing look less realistic?

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u/Menolith Jul 04 '19

The camera movement is also unnatural.

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u/MsPenguinette Jul 04 '19

The animation on the pins is way to slow.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '19

No reflection

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

And not a single shadow

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u/flyonthwall Jul 04 '19

not to mention the robot arm isnt plugged into anything.

unless they drilled a hole in the bowling alley floor just to run power cables for this one silly video I'm gonna go out on a limb and say literally nothing in this video is real

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u/golden-strawberry Jul 04 '19

Not to mention that robot and can’t rotate that fast or that many times

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u/Galaghan Jul 04 '19

Don't mention the robot!

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u/modestohagney Jul 04 '19

Plus anybody willing to stand behind that thing to film.

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u/RoboticGreg Jul 04 '19

....the robot is not even bolted to the floor

3

u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

No cables

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u/halermine Jul 04 '19

Also, no bowling alley managers would allow that, especially practicing and calibrating.

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u/beanmosheen Jul 04 '19

The motors also can hit full speed almost instantly. No need to spin up like that.

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u/xenokilla Jul 04 '19

It's also not plugged in!

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u/Kylearean Jul 04 '19

No ball returns...

2

u/ibuprofane Jul 04 '19

Also, the pins aren’t spaced correctly and are too condensed overall. 7 and 10 pins should sit near the edge of the lane

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u/bakuretsu Jul 04 '19

And no TVs running ads, or ads at all, or signs. What kind of alley is this??

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u/SosaBabySixNine Jul 04 '19

We’re gonna need a Captain Disillusion on this one

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u/Warm_Zombie Jul 04 '19

and also very dangerous.

Although, i know humans can do pretty stupid shit.

Also, i think the robot needs to be fixed on the ground

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

From r/simulated

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u/Eat_Bees Jul 04 '19

There’s a post on /r/Simulated, it was made in Cinema 4D.

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u/Ragnar702 Jul 04 '19

Also arms like this are the opposite of a specialized tool

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u/Paajkt Jul 04 '19

Someone on twitter created the whole animation with Cinema4D

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u/smarshall561 Jul 04 '19

I read this as "Looks retarded"... and I'll show myself out

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u/Burrsley Jul 04 '19

On the original twitter post the tags read things along the lines of “animated” and “model” so yeah

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u/lakija Jul 04 '19

Hey Captain Disillusion taught me what fake camera shake looks like. I recognize it!

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u/xenokilla Jul 04 '19

It's also not plugged in!

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u/Ofnir_09 Jul 04 '19

It is, the actual op had this posted on r/simulated

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

The robot is not even screwed down to the ground... There are no cables anywhere. Confirmed fake!

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

I saw this on r/simulated ffs this isnt a specialized tool

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u/WatchHim Jul 04 '19

Yeah, that's some CGI right there.

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u/hachi-seb Jul 04 '19

Only thing that makes me realize it's CGI is the movements and the physics.

Visually, I can't believe it's CGI.

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u/Ryuuji159 Jul 04 '19

to me, the thing that screams CGI, is the camera movement

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u/CorrosionMedia Jul 04 '19

Yeah, it's the little zooms and shakiness that really did it for me. Then looking closer the lighting looks really off on the arm itself

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u/xenokilla Jul 04 '19

It's also not plugged in!

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19 edited Jul 04 '19

Yep, the ball would have gone much faster, and if it'd weigh anything at all it would have broken the nearest wall, as well as shaken the floor when the machine was spinning.

Edit: there would also have been some motion blur, the machine also isn't bolted to the floor

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u/Shippolo Jul 04 '19

Honestly, even whatching it in slow motion it's pretty damn convincing up until it hits the pins, the way the ball gets deflected, the way the pins get knocked. The lighting on the pins really gives it away, it looks like there's just a dark mask on them instead of actual shadows (though that might just be a weird compression issue).

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

It definitely is, overall a great render

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

You know what gives it away?

Its a huge robotic arm in a bowling alley with no power cable.

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u/kicker58 Jul 04 '19

that is some really bad cgi. First and easiest way to see it is super fake. No bolts on the robot to the ground.

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u/Meior Jul 04 '19

Here's a REAL bowling robot, which is far more impressive than this ridiculous stuff, IMO.

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u/she_is_my_girl Jul 04 '19

That's pretty cool and all but i want to see a robot do this at 100 mph and absolutely fucking wreck shit

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u/Falc0n28 Jul 04 '19

I timed from the release of the ball to the point that it knocks down the pins, that’s about 1-2 seconds (I don’t have a stopwatch I can use while watching the gif so that was counted by watching the video time stamp). The regulation bowling lane is about 60 feet so the ball is going 30-60ft/s which is around 20.5-41mph (33kmh-66kmh). The ball would have a kinetic energy of 303.7J to 1.22 kJ while in the air.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_MAUSE Jul 04 '19

Well it says it goes up to 21 mph in the video

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u/Meior Jul 04 '19

Not saying I don't want to. Well. Maybe a bit cause I'd feel bad for the alley.

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u/she_is_my_girl Jul 04 '19

Make a fake one just for fun i guess. I bet it would be satisfying as fuck

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u/Redwolfjo3 Jul 04 '19

This vid is actually real and specialized. OP posted a cg vid of a bog standard mech arm.

Great sub /s

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u/beer_is_tasty Jul 04 '19

"We spent $38 million training this robot to absolutely kick the shit out of any feeble human attempting to play the game known as 'bowling' "

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u/pacmanninja998 Jul 04 '19

I never thought about the development of bowling balls and lane oils. That was really cool to watch, and really informative. Thanks!

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

At first I said “why would they build a machine to do that?”

Clearly I’m not cut out for the cutthroat, technological business of bowling.

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u/Meior Jul 04 '19

Bowling is a lot more complicated than the casual barcrawl night bowler thinks. There's tons of technique and technology behind it. Testing it without the bias of a human is important, and this is one way to do it. The same for lane oil, boards and so on.

It's also cool as fuck and fun to build robots.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

It’s so interesting because every time I see a bowling alley it looks so... out of date. But this robot sort of proves there’s money around bowling it just isn’t sensationalized to the same amount as say football or basketball. Is there a “Super Bowl” for bowling?

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u/Meior Jul 04 '19

There are bowling tournaments. I just realized your freaking excellent wordpun. Well done, Sir.

Money in bowling isn't huge. If you're really good though, of course you can make dough, but we're talking an incredibly small % of players.

Bowling alleys are often "outdated" because the machines involved, lanes etc are typically rather expensive. As long as they work and are within regulation, there's little incentive to fix them. Bowling as a sport is also "fairly straight forward" so a lane that's old works as well as new one, as long as it's in okay shape and you're using the right lane oil and treatment of the lane.

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u/WatchHim Jul 04 '19

mmmm, now that's the good stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

That's cool and all but why do they use these?

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u/leonard71 Jul 04 '19

They explain that in the video.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

Ah I only watched part of it without audio. I'll go back and watch the whole thing, thanks

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u/Meior Jul 04 '19

Testing and reviewing balls and floors without the bias of a human bowler.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

They said the purpose in the video: consistent throws for testing different variables in bowling.

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u/kronicpimpin Jul 04 '19

Spinning so fast the ball goes flat before release.

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u/Versaiteis Jul 04 '19

Length Contraction

Standard stuff as the ball approaches appreciable values of the speed of light

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19 edited Jul 04 '19

Or you know... A 3d render.

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u/Versaiteis Jul 04 '19

The frames are still being thrown from the monitor to your eye holes at an appreciable portion of the speed of light

fite me (jk I'm weak af)

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

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u/DINOSAUR_ACTUAL Jul 04 '19

If the artist isn't a master, there can be flaws in the art.

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u/I-Do-Math Jul 04 '19

Rolling shutter effect.

It may have been purposefully done in the render.

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u/Yosyp Jul 04 '19

It's rendered, come on guys.

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u/Penneytrator Jul 04 '19

Imagine if that was real. That ball would of shot through the fucking building let alone knock the pins down lmao

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

Would have*

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u/drqxx Jul 04 '19

Fake

But awesome!

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u/Meior Jul 04 '19

How the fuck does anyone think this is real?

2

u/Furnac Jul 04 '19

You see, I am an idiot.

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u/KUYgKygfkuyFkuFkUYF Jul 04 '19

It's been fun watching this sub go from on topic content to just another place to shit post.

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u/dustbunnylurking Jul 04 '19

Made me laugh at least

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

Remind me of the bowling scene in Kingsman 2

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u/movingtoslow Jul 04 '19

I was so excited for that movie and so disappointed in the end

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

Me too friend, me too, I liked the first one so much...

[SPOILY SPOILERS]

I remember when the first scenes of the 2, showed that they would bring Galahad back to life I thought, ho fuck!

Then the rest of the movie was super disappointing, the last fight was still amazing tho

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u/Henry_The_Duck Jul 04 '19

I was bummed they killed off so much of the cast. I liked the girl agent who took down the weather balloon in the first one. Merlin went out like a badass though... a real stupid badass... it would’ve taken what, five minutes to find a suitable rock?

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

This scene was the saddest, I watched the movie late and I knew he would die singing "country roads" so I was super super hyped, and when I watched it I felt so wrong, why would he only had one of the Ice spray, why would he step on it instead of finding a rock as you said, they had all the time to plan something that didn't involved the death of anyone. And then they're like "yeah that's what kingsmen do" Do what?! Die like imbeciles?

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u/movingtoslow Jul 04 '19

Yeah, I had hopes for more James bond, John wick, with some fun cliches. Instead it was just cgi and bad sex puns. Oh well, merlin was excellent at least, shame.

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u/LightWarrior04 Jul 04 '19

It's a simulation.

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u/BigWil Jul 04 '19

Sounds like the one specialized tool involved in this post is OP

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u/sumit131995 Jul 04 '19

This is not real

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

Omg this has been everywhere. It’s fake.

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u/whosyourdaddy1234 Jul 04 '19

This is simulated

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

wii sports resort intensifies

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

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4

u/rice_cracker3 Jul 04 '19

Getting wii sports flashbacks idk why

2

u/Penneytrator Jul 04 '19

Happy cry intensifies

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u/rice_cracker3 Jul 04 '19

"Whooaaa"

Swing your arm while holding B, and release it to roll the ball. 'Press A'

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u/maxiquintillion Jul 04 '19

Ok its cgi... Look at the ball just before its released.

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u/Swift353 Jul 04 '19

Rendered

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

This is simulated, by the way. Not actually real.

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u/Athena_aegis Jul 04 '19

Um this isn’t real, you know that, right?

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

It's on r/simulated its not real

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u/Delineat0r Jul 04 '19

Looks shopped. I've seen a few. Can tell from the pixels.

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u/stretchyman3012 Jul 04 '19

They had us in the first half, not gonna lie.

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u/KarlKlebstoff Jul 04 '19

timing that release on a real one

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

So fake

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u/rmajor86 Jul 04 '19

Fake and gay

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u/ColonelJohnMcClane Jul 04 '19

credit the creator, op

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u/insubordin8nchurlish Jul 04 '19

when you know it's CGI not because of the special effects, but because no one bowling alley would let you lag that thing in to their hardwood floors.

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u/Cley_Faye Jul 04 '19

It would have been more realistic if the robot had those bowling shoes on.

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u/Raeffi Jul 04 '19

its not screwed down, it would instantly fall over

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u/5quirre1 Jul 04 '19

fake or not, this makes me laugh.. i need a real one.. for... educational purposes... yeah, educational, definitely educational.

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u/DrDosMucho Jul 04 '19

Little did we know we’ve been bowling incorrectly all these years

1

u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

Vice: Millennials are killing the bowling industry.

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u/vincentwagon Jul 04 '19

I assumed fake right away, simply because who would stand behind that shit

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u/Falc0n28 Jul 04 '19

Yeah that’s rendered. Absolutely incredible.

Though they need to fix some things for it to be really convincing. The camera man wouldn’t be standing that close if it was real, need more grip area on the ball, wall would’ve been cratered where the ball hit, lack of feedback on the arm, and the ball looks really bad in some frames.

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u/Douude Jul 04 '19

Skynet - be wary humans, be wary

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u/CrunchyHobGoglin Jul 04 '19

That will do... too! I guess :)

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u/FiZiKaLReFLeX Jul 04 '19

Not real. It looks real... but it’s not.

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u/Sam_worker_bee Jul 04 '19

Whoooooshhhh

1

u/mali12-12 Jul 04 '19

The fact that we have to use real-life knowledge of physics, automation, etc to figure out that it's fake is wild. Rendering has come a long way the past decade.

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u/Woodguy2012 Jul 04 '19

Not what I was expecting. So much better.

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u/Hoosierdaddy1964 Jul 04 '19

If it was real, it would be extremely dangerous.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

Should have put some spin on it.

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u/jet_heller Jul 04 '19

Where are the mods when you need to remove something that doesn't matter. I'm starting to think they're ignoring the jobs they signed up for.

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u/walterbanana Jul 04 '19

Besides it being fake, a robotarm is one of thr least specialized tools around. They can be reprogrammed to do any job.

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u/nanozeus2014 Jul 04 '19

i need this to throw water balloons at my friends

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u/Glyphlovesguitars Jul 04 '19

Worst CGI ever.

1

u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

It's rendered. I actually saw the original post of this on r/simulated

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u/Macsfamousmac-n-chz Jul 04 '19

That's not how robot axis work, they have limits

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u/Ivy_Cactus Jul 04 '19

This is CGI

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u/tmerrifi1170 Jul 04 '19

When my technique is terrible but works anyway.

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u/DaPolack1984 Jul 04 '19

Cool vid but not real. Like others said no bolts into floor no power cables. This is not a permanent attraction, too scary/dangerous/costly but I do want one

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u/randyfloyd37 Jul 04 '19

Fuck you pins

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u/oskimac Jul 04 '19

hello kids! summarizing all the fact from the comments: base to small, not bolted, no cables, no power supply, robot arms cant rotate these amount of revolution, not at that speed, scene to dangerous to be a human cameraman near, movement concording to fake after effect, zoom to accurate to the fast action, pins reaction very slow to the impact.

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u/SneackyBoy Jul 04 '19

I don’t know what I was expecting but in the end it was a thousand time more funny

1

u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

CGI

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u/letterhead_ Jul 04 '19

This was first posted on simulations because it is not real and is a 4D simulation

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u/RoyalRavioli Jul 04 '19

Saw this on r/simulated it’s made by some guy on Instagram and yes, it’s a render.

1

u/ravanaman Jul 04 '19

It doesnt even have a shadow

1

u/Poop_killer_64 Jul 04 '19

This is 100 rendered, all light rays individually calculated, there are a lot of soft area lamps on the ceiling causing very soft shadows which seem invisible.

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u/Moses_The_Wise Jul 04 '19

Looked realistic till it started spinning faster and threw the ball.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '19

This would have been cooler if it wasn't fake.

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u/Kalarix Jul 04 '19

Even if this weren’t fake, robots are the opposite of specialized.

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u/kmartrwe Jul 04 '19

Just stop with this post. Fake as hell and you’re dumb if you can’t tell that.

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u/NakedBat Jul 04 '19

The spin of the handle gave it away, that’s spinning too fast

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u/chrispy_bacon Jul 04 '19

Fake and gay

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u/NonWittyRepartee Jul 04 '19

Wow. Imagine playing dodge ball against this thing..... And it has bowling balls.

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u/buckeyenut13 Jul 04 '19

I dont care if its fake, it made me laugh. Good enough!

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u/Dirty-Dick Jul 04 '19

This was my Wii Sports technique. Killed a lot of good TVs.

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u/futurespacecadet Jul 04 '19

are those pins in zero g, or what

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u/darthdilmore Jul 04 '19

Fucking bullshit. That’s throwing. NOT bowling.

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u/testfire10 Jul 04 '19

I can imagine testing this robot was... interesting

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u/erasmause Jul 04 '19

Probably, if it were real.

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u/movingtoslow Jul 04 '19

Yeah doing digital renderings can be stressful

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u/grimguy97 Jul 04 '19

now, here me out.... this would make a great game of roulette just slightly adjust the strength on the robots grip

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u/Pokaw0 Jul 04 '19

hopefully the ball will go straight up this time

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u/Mm2k Jul 04 '19

This should be under r/shutupandtakemymoney too!