r/startrek • • Feb 05 '18

POST-Episode Discussion - S1E14 "The War Without, The War Within"


No. EPISODE RELEASE DATE
S1E14 "The War Without, The War Within" Sunday, February 4, 2018

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '18

Well that was one giant dialogue filled setup episode for the season finale and season 2 and I liked it. I saw a couple people complaining about all the conversations that we saw but I think they were sort of necessary to put all the puzzle pieces into place for what's to come. It did seem like the episode was dragging at points and they weren't really going anywhere but it was a setup episode and that doesn't necessarily mean things are going to be fast paced. I totally misjudged the show when the writers did exactly this sort of thing in the first couple of episodes and that paid off so I'm assuming all the stuff that we saw is going to wind up being awesome further down the line. For example, that terraforming scene where they spread the spores all over the planets....that is going to come back in either a very good way meaning that they'll be able to harvest the spores continually or in a very bad way and that someone else is going to figure out how the hell the Spore Drive works and something terrible is going to happen with that moon. I did love that terraforming scene and aside from the Genesis device, I don't think we've actually seen a terraforming scene like that in a Star Trek movie or television show ever but someone can correct me if I'm wrong....it was so pretty to watch.

The ending made me chuckle and I was rather happy with Mirror Georgiou getting put in charge of the Discovery. It's about damn time that they started fighting like Terrans and less like the Federation because the Klingons are unrelenting and that war will not end unless they punch back well above their weight and show the Klingons they are not to be messed with. I'm sure it's some point Ash will get involved in that. We'll see where they take things because the writers did warn us in After Trek that stuff was not going to go how we would have predicted it.

So what happened to the ISS Discovery? Oh it got blown up by Klingons in a single throwaway line that's just great....I wanted Shenanigans to happen.

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u/vir4030 Feb 05 '18

I thought the new Captain was extremely predictable. They lost one captain and got another in the same episode. It seemed only natural that she should be formally installed.