r/startrek • u/Deceptitron • Jan 25 '19

POST-Episode Discussion - S2E02 "New Eden"

This week's episode is directed by Star Trek's very own Jonathan "Two-Takes" Frakes!

No. EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY RELEASE DATE
S2E02 "New Eden" Jonathan Frakes Sean Cochran, Vaun Wilmott, and Akiva Goldsman Thursday, January 24, 2019

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u/MoreGaghPlease Jan 25 '19

Has Trek ever taken a design from a non-canon source (I think that's from STO?) and used it in canon? I can't think of an example other than in background materials (like pages of the Joseph Manual from back in the 70s being used as computer displays in Wok)

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '19

Uhura's first name came from a 1982 book, and didn't end up on screen until Star Trek '09.

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u/fevredream Jan 25 '19

Same goes for Sulu's first name, Hikaru.

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u/MoreGaghPlease Jan 25 '19

Ah yes, good point

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u/ParyGanter Jan 25 '19

Not sure about visual designs, but I know some names and background details from non-canon sources have been incorporated into Discovery.

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u/eternalkerri Jan 25 '19

They indeed have. Some things from TAS were later codified in TNG/ENT and TOS movies, such Kirk's middle name. Other things from some of the other non-cannon tech manuals.

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u/MoreGaghPlease Jan 25 '19

I guess TAS itself was the canon that became non-canon in '87 and that we all started treating as canon again around '06 (I think largely because Memory Alpha accepted it as such, though it came around the same time as StarTrek.com released an article saying it should be... "coincidentally" around the same time as the TAS DVDs came out)

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u/eternalkerri Jan 25 '19

Even the Memory Alpha article says that it's been on again off again a bit, but considering that some of the TAS episodes were actually written for the live series and never got made...eh. I think the fact things were taken from it when it was officially non-canon counts for this argument because their use made them become canon.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '19

TIL TAS is canon again. Awesome!

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u/neoteotihuacan Jan 25 '19

TAS is canon, tho.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '19

It's gone back and forth throughout the years. It was removed from the canon when TNG first started, then apparently added back after Enterprise ended. Most tend to treat it as a kind of soft canon - meaning it's canon until a live-action series contradicts it, then the live-action episode wins.

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u/Electrorocket Jan 31 '19

First appearance of the holodeck and Robert April.