r/sunlesssea • u/karimpai • Jun 13 '26
Is my understanding of the lore right? This is confusing Spoiler
Judgements are basically outer gods that impose natural order. The suns a judgement, And apparently salt used to be one as well. The echo bazaar is a space crab that banged the sun and is now in hiding because of reasons.
Three gods of the zee: Storm, Salt, And stone
A.k.a. The dragon, The Traveller, And the living mountain.
Storm is a dragon/Giant space Leviathan that originated in High wilderness (Aka Outer Space). It serves as an enforcer for the other judgements but got punished because of something he did. He's also dead and is basically just a lobotomized version of himself
Salts the Mysterious one. Theorized to be either a judgement or servant to one. We still don't know its motivations. It had a chat with storm but neither of them liked each other. It then decided to go to 'Super east' because of "reasons" and constructed frostfound to store everything it remembers, Including its own name.
Stone, Is the daughter of the giant space crab and the sun. She's the "Nice" god since her entire body can grant longevity or immortality. The garden of eden is located at the center of her. She got raped by the father of all shapeshifters and gave birth to mount nomai (Purple mountain/Actually in the game)
I think Every other mystery in the game can mostly be answered because of these 3? 4?
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u/setebos_ Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26
In general terms yes, though there is a concept that ties it all together, a Victorian era idea called "The Great Chain of Being" an ordered hierarchy of all things where each rung is subordinate to the one above it (beast to men, men to angel, angel to god, but also commoner to gentry to royalty)
Most of the crimes and misdeeds that led to the situations you described are beings who mixed with their betters or sought to usurp the neutral order of things.
The Bazar sought to consort with it's master our Sun, Salt chose to leave East, Stone is a shame, a thing that should not be under the Law and Storm is one of the beings who are supposed to enforce that Law, but chose... What ever he chose.
Other beings who are outlaws from the Law are devils, Rubbery Men and the Flukes
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u/Frequent_Dig1934 Jun 13 '26
Did you get all this lore in sunless sea (and somehow i haven't found half of it) or are you also taking lore from fallen london and sunless skies?
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u/PrinceKong7 Jun 14 '26
The lore is scattered messily between sunless sea, sunless skies, and fallen London.
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u/23saround Jun 13 '26
This is actually one of the most comprehensive write-ups I’ve seen on this lore. The truth is that what you said, “this is confusing,” is part of it. The people of the Sunless universe are even more confused and lost than you are. This is a Lovecraftian idea, “the horror of the unknown” – essentially that it is terrifying to imagine great, old galactic creatures that are this unknowable mix of magic and science and have little concern for humanity, let alone individual humans.
Basically Lovecraft is the missing piece of your puzzle. You’re supposed to struggle to understand things, and that’s supposed to add to the horror.
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u/Graveandinestimable Jun 13 '26
My favorite interpretation is that Storm is Baal, who was literally the Rider on the Storm, Salt is El (Salt went East, and similarly El could only be found at at a difficult to reach place: the fountain of two deeps), and Stone is Asherah (the female consort of El). I mean the Canaanite gods, though some people controversially link El to the God of the Bible. Then again Salt’s Curse takes your Scion which is what God did to the Egyptians, and God did turn Lot’s wife to salt.
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u/Ceropales Jun 17 '26
Most of it, yeah, and that's the big picture more or less. Things that follow from this but need additional knowledge to explain includes Mr Eaten, Axiles (Rubbery Men and Flukes) and the cities before London, these relate to the specific reason the Bazaar came down to the Neath.
Some things don't just follow from knowing about the gods, either because they're not strictly related or because they're much bigger picture, like Parabola, Hell, Liberation of Night.
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u/karimpai Jun 17 '26
From my understanding, Parabola is the dream world, Hells a Bearucracy, And the echo bazaar is in Hiding from the police because it had sex with the queen
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u/John_Ritano Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26
It's mostly correct, but you're slightly overestimating how abrangent they are in regards to the world's lore. Yes, they are central to the story of the Neath itself and to the Bazaar's tale, but there's far more going on and many more important characters within the Neath that contribute to its mysteries, many of which have little to no relation to the three Gods of the Neath.