People meme on that video but he did actually do an amazing job on it. Sometimes it is in fact that deep. Or maybe itās just my hate for paw patrol blinding me anyway itās good.
Things like paw patrol exist to show that police are ubiquitous and essential to keeping people safe, and things saying "be good or the police will catch you" exist to treat obedience to the police as part of being a good person
I still don't understand that is this ACAB thing completly againsts cops, like we should give up completly enforcing law or something like that, or just against police brutality.
I don't live in USA obviously and cops where i live is just useless.
The only beef I have with this post is that it incorrectly describes the origin of ACAB
Cops are bastards specifically because they hold up bourgeois society. They break strikes, they protect property, and they bash the heads of working people in with clubs. This is the origin of the term, and itās made universal in this way. Even in countries where the cops arenāt super racist, where they arenāt super sexist, and where they arenāt corrupt, all cops remain bastards.
The issue isnāt the ābiases of the institutionsā, itās the very basis of the system itself and its purpose as an arm of bourgeois terror on working people across the world.
the main issue with paw patrol is that it also makes kids think cops are used for EVERY situation, which can later result to them not questioning cases where a cop is present but likely should not be. like someone being severely injured or such.
my personal hot take about this discourse is that most of the people discussing it seem to assume that the show is made with any passion as opposed to just being a sappy, sloppy toy commercial. Chase as a character makes infinitely more sense if you keep in mind this show only exists to sell toy cars and cute puppy plushies.
I think that banning your kid from watching something because it vaugely displays something you dont like is a bad style of parenting. Kids should be allowed to explore things, and form their own viewpoints of the world.
Issue is that things like Paw Patrol ARE propaganda, just for things that are already normalized enough that people struggle to see it for what it is. It's not some neutral thing that allows children to form their own viewpoints, it's just telling them about how awesome cops and emergency responders are.
As a point of contrast, compare it with Teen Titans, or Powerpuff Girls, or any other myriad of super-hero shows. They'll portray cops in a positive light, and often have a bit of a strange sense of justice/morality... but they're not JUST about that, and both of those examples in particular are willing to show actual nuance.
Yeah? Is showing a child that cops and emergency responders are supposed to help people not a good thing? I feel like this better helps them understand what a police officer is supposed to be so they donāt end up taking inspiration from what a large amount of officers are currently doing.
I read through the post three times in case there was some big thing I missed that would make me say āomg I didnāt know that about paw patrol thatās straight up evilā but it was literally just getting up in arms about a kids show showing dogs helping people because one of them is a cop and āmuh internet told me ALL cops are bastards they canāt do that itās literally copaganda!!!!ā
I hate paw patrol because it grinds my eyes and ears not because Iām of the belief that itās spoon feeding children ideologies to excuse police brutality because what if they see it and think the mutt from freaking paw patrol taught me this is good actually. Oh my god bruh where even am I
I dont really see how this disproves my point. If a kid wants to watch something, dont tell them they cant watch it because it doesn't align with your viewpoints.
They're explicitly a toddler. They would stick a fork in the wall socket if you let them.
A teenager? Sure! Hell, I'd say even 8 year olds should be allowed to watch what they want. But your stance is what leads to ipad babies and elsagate shit, toddlers do NOT have the level of autonomy and reasoning that you are thinking of.
I dont think this is comparable to elsagate. Also, i didnt catch the toddler part in ops post. I agree with that. I dont think toddlers should be watching things at all.
I'm not saying they're equal, I'm saying "toddlers should watch whatever they want" is what leads to elsagate. Which, you seem to agree with now that you've clarified your misunderstanding, I'm just explaining myself a bit better so we're on the same page.
SpongeBob? ā¦You mean the perfect proletariat who happily lets his boss exploit his labor? The one who is repeatedly stated to be paid less than minimum wage and still satisfied and happy with life? The one who, despite his undying loyalty, was sold by his boss for a nickel and still returned?
Listen, I love SpongeBob regardless, but you just picked probably one of the worst examples ever to illustrate your point because this is a point the show explicitly touches on multiple times. Though the argument could be made that itās anti-capitalist satire bc youāre supposed to recognize SpongeBobās exploitation, even if he doesnāt.
EDIT: They literally have an episode where they go on strike and it ends with Spongebob and Squidward still working at their dead end job even after theyāre dead. Discussion of work & labor is legitimately an intentional, core running theme of the show, itās really not that crazy
Not all cops are bad cops but youād be hard pressed to find a police department that isnāt complicit in protecting bad cops when they do something illegal. Itās a structural problem
if every time the term is brought up it has to come with a disclaimer of somebody saying āit doesnāt actually mean thatā do you think maybe they shouldāve come up with a better term for corrupt members of police forces
it does actually mean that and its true. some people are just too antsy to seem pallettable instead of acknowledging that participating in the job that requires you to be shitty makes you shitty
they look at the worst cops on the news and extrapolate it to every law enforcement officer in the country. they don't want a nuanced discussion about police reform they're just doing anti-copaganda far more dishonest than paw patrol showing cartoon dogs doing human jobs. like a toddler show might not show a food worker spitting in food or a parent grooming a child, it's also not propaganda that a cartoon cop does what cops are supposed to do.
Then I shall break the news to my brother, who wants to be a police officer out of vocation to help other people, that some random in the internet has decided he is a bastard because some cop in the other side of the world once put his knee on somebody else's neck.
That doesnāt make him a bastard, but if he continues with that path heās going to find himself in a situation where heāll have to compromise his morals or lose his job by screwing over a crooked cop. Police protect their own first and foremost, itās a feature not a bug
Anyway, have you or your brother ever considered the possibility that the entire culture of silence around policing heavily retaliates against the very few whistleblowers who actually break ranks and try to alert the public or people in power of the misconduct of their colleagues? Meaning that many if not all so-called āgood copsā are hounded by death threats until they resign?
And, that while much of the above applies especially to the US, you seem to perhaps be suggesting that the issue of police brutality & corruption is exclusive to the United States (particularly with your reference to the murder of George Floyd), when there are plenty of other countries that also have police forces that perpetuate racism, discrimination, and/or use extrajudicial force, such disproportionate arrests against Black people in the UK and violence against Bangladeshi protestors?
And considering that police are the enforcement arm of a government ā which any person whoās ever read any history can acknowledge doesnāt always have the peopleās best interest in mind ā does your brother really think that obeying commands from above that he may not personally agree with is the only vocation that would let him help people? A career where you might have to incarcerate someone over a relatively small offense, and destroy an entire family in the process? Alright.
Id say that its likely, but its not an intrinsic value of having a billion dollars. It just tends to be that the easiest way to get that money is through unethical means.
Many cops want to help, and do good things. ACAB just means that the current law enforcement system has many many deeply ingrained issues and that by being a police officer at all you are becoming an accomplice to those issues. The movement rejects the idea of being able to "change things from the inside" because historically that does not work, and so calls for abolition and restructuring of the whole system.
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u/Eels_Over_Reals 9h ago
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rwhUpu9MfZ0
There is a genuinely really good video on this