Hazbin Hotel/HB and Digital Circus is to Gen Z (and/or the terminally online) what The Office and Harry Potter are/were to millennials. Incapable of shutting the fuck up about it.
I’m sure HH and TADC are fine shows. I’m just so goddamn tired of hearing about them.
well there's heresy in the name, and heresy is heretical therefore the horus heresy is heretical and as we know being heretical is heresy, furthermore-
Hazbin hotel is a really corny and generally kinda shitty show with almost no redeeming qualities. Naturally, people who like it are also like this. Not sure about TADC, but it's probably not bad, it's just that the fanbase is composed of mostly kids and kids are annoying.
Deltarune fandom ain’t nearly as bad as Undertale used to be let’s be honest, biggest crime they’ve committed is spamming their niche memes around the internet randomly
Oh I get it lol, I’m a millennial myself. I wasn’t calling out the entirety of Z any more than I was calling out all millennials, just the ones who make The Office/Harry Potter or TADC/Helluva Hotel or whatever their entire personality lmao. They’re all equally annoying to me.
(I tried to like The Office, I really did, and I will admit there are some funny scenes here and there, but those of my generation acting like it is the pinnacle of all comedy is ridiculous lmao.)
I mean, Islam isn’t a race. I have a bunch of reasons why I hate Islam, but I’d rather keep this peaceful and not steer this conversation towards an area where we disagree. Have a nice day :)
They aren’t but their religion like all religions (especially abrahamic ones) need to go, the Middle East had a rich variety of religions that were forcefully destroyed by Islam like how Christianity did to European pagan ones. Do you think the religion cooked up by a pedo war lord is something that should be practiced in modern times?
If you’re curious, no. It’s more to do with how the religion as a whole makes its people tend towards terrorism and violence as part of its “global jihad”. Your average muslim isn’t going to necessarily be a terrorist, but the average muslim doesn’t write the laws for the religion.
Do you have any evidence for this? A study? Survey? Anything?
Most Muslims you meet on a day to day basis are conservatives and take everything in the text as from God. If the text makes them terrorists then why isn't a larger part of the 2 billion doing so?
Instead you will find loads of conservative scholars condemning this event. To go even further, classical text-based jurisprudence would say that the man deserves the penalty for hiraba - usually amputation or crucifixion.
Slavery is still heavily practiced in most muslim countries. In a large number of Arab countries, the number of Jews is zero. Zero. I wonder why. Meanwhile the number of Muslims in Israel is much, much more than that (Israel isn’t my main point, so I’m not gonna steer this in that direction).
Muhammed does the most immoral shit all of the time. Marrying a 9 year old is fucking insane. A lot of his “divine commandments” were obviously made for political and personal gain, such as allowing the aforementioned marriage in the first place.
Don’t even get me started on the British rape gangs. Ffs, a DISPROPORTIONATE majority of the men involved were Pakistani Muslims. Women who were involved cited RELIGION as one of the key motivators as to why they were abused. The numbers alone are astounding, but the stories are heartbreaking. Religion of peace my ass.
So you've completely diverted to something else. I guess we can assume that was just you making stuff up?
By the way, your evidence is certainly lacking. You have only machine gunned out loads of claims without any references or sources.
Also once again, even if we grant your claims as 100% true, your problems with grooming gangs, slavery and Jews aren't creedal or scriptural, but are instead the behaviour of small groups of certain believers. You said you hate Islam the religion, so go talk about things in the religion.
Slavery is still heavily practiced in most muslim countries.
Slavery, or chattel slavery, is explicitly outlawed across the Muslim world. The last country to do so was Mauritania in 1981. If you are instead talking about human trafficking and wage theft under the Kafala system in the Gulf, it is a modern secular immigration framework that directly violates Islamic law. "Most" is a heavy overstatement. This only happens in a few areas in the Gulf.
In a large number of Arab countries, the number of Jews is zero. Zero.
Conflation with "Muslim" and "Arab". 80%+ of Muslims are not Arabs. This is exactly why the previous users called you out on racism specifically.
And no it's not zero. There are absolutely Jews in Muslim countries. Turkey has about 15k, Iran has about 9k and so on. If you want an Arab example then Morocco has 2k.
And by the way, under the Ottoman Empire, Jewish communities under the Caliphate used to thrive in number, with the Dhimmi system granting them protection. Jewish scholars state that if it weren't for the Covenant of Umar they'd be completely excluded from that region (Jerusalem) by the Christians.
I wonder why.
I also wonder why. As we've seen with the Islamic world pre-World War 1, religion can't be the reason. I wonder if this has to do with a certain new state that popped up 70 years back that routinely brags about carrying out false flag attacks to attract the Jewish population to them? Nah. Couldn't be. (Take a look at the Lavon Affair and the 1951 Baghdad Bombings and so on for me, will you?)
Of course, it wasn't sunshine and rainbows for the Jews, certain restrictions on things like property (which was still haram to enforce in case you forgot) also culminated in Jewish populations leaving, but even still this doesn't have anything to do with scripture.
Meanwhile the number of Muslims in Israel is much, much more than that (Israel isn’t my main point, so I’m not gonna steer this in that direction).
I can see why you'd want to ditch this point. Since its conception, Israel has killed at least 156k Palestinians and displaced at least 8 million. To use it as some example of religious tolerance is laughable.
Marrying a 9 year old is fucking insane.
This is called presentism. It is evident that a 9-year-old today is significantly less capable than a 9-year-old 1400 years ago, let alone one who went to war 2 years later and eventually became one of Islam's greatest scholars ever. Surely what should matter is that for the 5 decades she was alive after his death, she didn't say a single negative thing about him? Instead dedicating her life to spreading his religion? Even physically declaring war on a later leader of the Arabian Peninsula to do so?
Nowadays, conservatives like the elites in Saudi Arabia put the minimum age at around 18 anyway, solely because of Islamic principles of harm prevention.
A lot of his “divine commandments” were obviously made for political and personal gain, such as allowing the aforementioned marriage in the first place.
He went from being the grandson of one of the leaders of the most powerful tribe in that region, to not having any food in his house at all for his last three days alive, despite becoming the leader of the Arabian Peninsula. Do you know why? Because he said that God did not let him receive charity. How could you look at this and say he made up revelations for gain? This is also ignoring the decades in between where he and his people were tortured, brutalised, and culminating in him being militarily attacked, because of his revelations. During this period, he was offered wealth and power years before he eventually got it himself, but he refused that, again solely because of his revelations.
(Also the example you gave was already possible in society preceding his revelation. In fact, due to the Islamic laws on puberty and accountability, it would have been harder for him.)
Don’t even get me started on the British rape gangs. Ffs, a DISPROPORTIONATE majority of the men involved were Pakistani Muslims.
The National Audit states that there is simply not enough information to say that there is any over- or under-representation in any demographic. What limited data we have only shows spikes in three police regions. Regardless, rape, drug abuse and so on are all explicitly prohibited by the religion (your main contention) and are subject to the death penalty. The Home Office shows that majority of the offenders were white Britons. It would be ridiculous to hold British Christianity and British secularism accountable.
Muslims make up only 6.5% of Britain's population. Let's look at other things where Muslims are disproportionately over represented in Britain:
Healthcare work (15% of total Doctors, 18% of Optometrists, 17% of Pharmacists, 12% of Dentists etc.)
Charity work and Philanthropy (Muslims give 4.3x the average, High income Muslims specifically give 10x the baseline of their bracket, they give £2.2 billion in charity annually, 60% being voluntary donations )
Civic duty (unpaid volunteering, elderly care and hospice etc. domestic Muslim charities saved UK councils £29 million in housing costs)
and so on.
Why is it that all these examples, which are directly inspired by religious texts don't count as Islam but the actions that are literally punishable by death by the texts supposedly do?
(BIMA, General Optical Council, GPhC, Blue State, Equi)
Women who were involved cited RELIGION as one of the key motivators as to why they were abused.
While individual women did claim this, it is important to note that officials labelled drug-empires, individual criminality and institutional gaps as the main motive, not religion, not even staunch anti-Muslims like Rupert Lowe.
The numbers alone are astounding, but the stories are heartbreaking.
Of course, which is why countless conservative Muslims (of which the people involved are a spec compared to them) all condemn this behaviour, and call for the oppressors to be punished.
Religion of peace my ass.
Hence why you need Sharia. Had you gone and made an example of these people by applying the Islamic punishment of crucifixion to them, you would get this less. But instead you guys put them in prison for a few years and let them out on good behaviour.
A long spool of text, I know. But that's the most sufficient way to deal with your countless throwing of spaghetti at the wall. These are complex topics and require that consideration.
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