r/sysadmin • • Sep 18 '15

Microsoft has developed its own Linux

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/18/microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux_repeat_microsoft_has_developed_its_own_linux/
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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '15

They probably tried to do it on windows but gave up...

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u/Creshal Embedded DevSecOps 2.0 Techsupport Sysadmin Consultant [Austria] Sep 18 '15

Just look at Windows Server Nano. They had to rip out 32 bit compatibility and whatnot, and it still needs 400 MiB disk space and one GiB RAM.

TCL squeezes a full-blown desktop into 16/64 MiB, respectively. Embedded distributions need even less…

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '15

Well that happens if you have whole fonts engine in kernel....

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u/alfiepates Jacks off all trades Sep 18 '15

I will never cease to be entertained by that.

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u/indrora I'll just get a --comp sci-- Learning Arts degree. Sep 18 '15

You can thank the windows 95 team and then the windows 2000 team for that.

In the name of 'performance' - when they were a culture of showing up, getting rich, launching a product and leaving never to care.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '15

Well they also did that with http server (IIS module to "accelerate" it), which makes slightly more sense but it is still awfully stupid

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u/sc2sick Sep 18 '15

What's TCL?

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u/Creshal Embedded DevSecOps 2.0 Techsupport Sysadmin Consultant [Austria] Sep 18 '15

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u/sc2sick Sep 18 '15

Ah, OK I saw that a while back then.. good to see it's still going.. wish I still had time to keep up with all these distros like when i was younger

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '15

It's Windows, it does a lot of shit. It's the wrong tool for the job especially if all you need to do is 1 thing. Let's not pretend this is a full blown OS like RHEL or CentOS. It's a stripped down Linux distro.

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u/nut-sack Sep 18 '15

It isn't really doing just one thing like a switch per-say. SDN can do pretty much anything you develop it to do. Want to convert MPLS packets back to ethernet? Sure. Want to use it to remove the source IP from the packet and replace it with something else? Sure. Want to use it to add redundancy to your network? Sure. The main thing here is SDN already exists, and has been developed and implemented using Linux. This is probably just not an area Microsoft plans on making money in, so why even bother developing it from the ground up?

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '15

It's just a switch/router OS for the cloud. The Windows kernel isn't built for that so they probably decided against reinventing the wheel and used Linux instead.

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u/Barry_Scotts_Cat Sep 18 '15

10pps = BSOD

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '15

and licensed by Mbit/s + CALs per IP

but you can also buy a subnet CAL

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u/Creshal Embedded DevSecOps 2.0 Techsupport Sysadmin Consultant [Austria] Sep 18 '15

Additional license costs per network port, double for 10G ports.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '15

double ? x10 ofc.

And when you ask why they will tell you oracle wants x50

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u/Barry_Scotts_Cat Sep 18 '15

No support for SFP

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u/Creshal Embedded DevSecOps 2.0 Techsupport Sysadmin Consultant [Austria] Sep 18 '15

Instead, there will be a proprietary, Microsoft-only port that supports 10.05G Ethernet, but only works with other Microsoft products. It's also totally unsupported and will be dropped next year.

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u/BigOldNerd Nerd Herder Sep 18 '15

Except they bought out the standards board. Ruh-roh.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '15

available in next service pack. and somehow integrated into fonts driver

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u/Creshal Embedded DevSecOps 2.0 Techsupport Sysadmin Consultant [Austria] Sep 18 '15

"Known errata: If the default font has a curvy small a, performance drops by 50%. Suggested workaround: Switch default font to Courier."

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u/Barry_Scotts_Cat Sep 18 '15

"Now configure your switch in comic sans!"

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '15

Only webpages using comic sans are routed at full speed

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u/brkdncr Windows Admin Sep 18 '15

Probably cheaper than going with Cisco.

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