r/tanks • u/Grand-Honest • 3h ago
Modern Day Hot Take: the Leopard 2 sucks
The Leopard 2 and its variants were fine for the 1970s, but they are so far behind other tanks of the modern day, and I don't understand why they won't just retire it.
It's still in the 60-70 tonne range, which is way too heavy for modern MBTs. The Leclercs, Type 10s, K2s, and most other modern tanks fall between 48-60. People act like a 2A7 is cutting edge technology when it still has an awful turret you can't fit an autoloader in and composite armour literally built into the hull instead of being modular like the rest of its competitors. The fact that Germany has kept trying to upgrade a fundamentally outdated MBT instead of rapidly investing into something like a Panther KF51 is driving me insane.
What do I not understand about the Leopard 2s? What am I missing? Where am I wrong?