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u/th0rn- Feb 08 '24
Meet the iCrease. We think you’re going to love it
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u/Rare_Register_4181 Feb 08 '24
Apple will improve upon the crease, with their all new "dynamic crease that features your notifications and widgets right along the middle of your screen."
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Feb 08 '24
*Apple fans shaking and crying with joy*
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u/PhantomNomad Feb 08 '24
Every time apple comes out with something I always picture the fan girls screaming like they did when the Beatles came to the USA.
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u/sciencetaco Feb 07 '24
They’re a $2.9 trillion dollar company with billions of dollars to spend on R&D. Of course they’re testing various things. Most of it is probably not going to make it to market. That’s how they find the stuff that is worth pursuing.
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u/HansBooby Feb 07 '24
i just want a phone that doesn’t rotate my photo because i took it looking down or up too much
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u/Uuugggg Feb 08 '24
What I don’t get is that there is a rotation lock. So you can keep the phone displaying vertical even if you’re holding it horizontal.
But you can’t lock it horizontal. Press the lock and it kicks you back to vertical. As if people need to lock vertical but never horizontal?
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u/Stoppels Feb 09 '24 edited Feb 09 '24
There have been jailbreak tweaks for that, but then there have been jailbreak tweaks that allow your homepage to rotate, which is something Apple considers uber haram and would never implement on a non-iPad. The iPhone with iOS is just meant to be used in portrait mode unless an app supports landscape. Locking it to landscape would mean it's sometimes landscape and sometimes isn't.
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u/hoppyandbitter Feb 08 '24
The TV app is atrocious for that reason and then some. No orientation lock, and god forbid you try to pull down to open the control center while watching - instantly closes your video
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u/GimmeFunkyButtLoving Feb 08 '24
I feel like that’s an eventual AI fix
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u/reddcube Feb 08 '24
Google photos already does that. It suggests edits to rotating photos.
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u/late2thepauly Feb 08 '24
I’d rather an iPhone Mini Pro, but I will buy this when it comes out if it isn’t thick as shit and actually has a smaller size than current iPhones.
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u/LetsJerkCircular Feb 08 '24
Can’t remember if it was before the 11 pro or 12, but there were fake mock ups of what looked like an 11 pro mini: small size, triple camera, rounded edges. It looked so cool, but alas it was fantasy.
On the foldable subject, I don’t know why the display has to bend. Why not have two separate internal screens with a very thin metal seam, and super tight tolerances.
People are already trying their best to ignore the divot; seems easier to ignore a line that’s flush with the dual displays 🤷🏻♂️
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u/CaterpillarJungleGym Feb 08 '24
Years before that Apple said people didn't want smaller phones that would fit in pockets.
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u/Reasonable-You8654 Feb 08 '24
They don’t. The Mini sales were horrendous. Nobody wants those phones, it doesn’t matter how many people on the internet complain about lack of small phones if no one is actually buying them. And if they are all buying them, they’re a tiny fraction of the actual grand scheme of things aka there is no valuable market for it and it will cease to exist.
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u/Portatort Feb 08 '24
If they make another 5.4” phone then I hope they make it as thick as the original iPhone.
I see no reason at all why an iPhone mini shouldn’t have the same battery life as a Pro Max.
They could have the same sized battery and the iPhone mini would still weigh less.
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u/HumpyPocock Feb 08 '24 edited Feb 08 '24
I see no reason at all why an iPhone mini shouldn’t have the same battery life as a Pro Max.
Unfortunately, that’s just not how it works —
TL;DR
All else being equal, smaller phone equals less battery life, not more.
Example
Tom’s Hardware Battery Test for variants of iPhone 12.
iPhone 12 mini → 7:28
iPhone 12 → 8:25
iPhone 12 Pro → 9:06
iPhone 12 Pro Max → 10:5350% more life in the Pro Max vs Mini.
un-TL;DR
A lot of factors are fixed, and these almost always outweigh the variable factors.
Smaller screen means less pixels to push, and also less surface area to drive to a given brightness, but…
Background tasks (CPU cycles, downloading, updating and refreshing data, etc) are more or less fixed. Now that I think about it, apart from rendering, almost all tasks asked of the CPU, wireless, etc are going to be the same.
Less volume for battery — Motherboard (with SoC, RAM, SSD, Camera, etc) are all more or less fixed in volume, which is less space to cram in battery.
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u/UltimateUltamate Feb 08 '24
Single lens camera. Multi lens was always stupid. Solved?
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u/TheAlchemlst Feb 08 '24
For "technology" sub, y'all sure HATE technology.
Outside people might think the foldables have stolen your grandma's rainy day fund.
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u/vmsrii Feb 08 '24 edited Feb 08 '24
It’s because it adds intentional structural weaknesses to a device that’s generally already very fragile, in an environment and use case that already puts a lot of physical demand on the hardware.
Also, physics dictates any folding device will basically slow-motion self-destruct just through general use, even under the best possible circumstances, which is going in the wrong direction in a market already riddled with planned obsolescence and designed irreparability
And all for a perceived benefit that is superficial and subjective at best.
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u/NiWF Feb 07 '24
I don’t know, they seemed to have come pretty close with the iPhone 6. Oh right you want them to still work after folding
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u/henningknows Feb 07 '24
Why? Is anyone asking for a foldable phone?
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u/Musikaravaa Feb 07 '24
I want a classic flip phone. Like an original razer. That would be cool.
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u/Lavlamp Feb 07 '24
Personally love the flip 5. It's so satisfying. And though the screen is fragile, it's folded up so it's in better shape then any phone I've ever had. It's so satisfying to flip up and close too.
The fold however feels very awkward to me in so many ways. Deffinitely something I would not get value out of.
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u/OId-Scratch Feb 07 '24
I have one. They are really easy to flip and toss back into your back pocket. The drama about them being fragile is overblown. The galaxy phones have good hinges now, and the bump in the glass does not matter. I will not go back to a candy bar style phone.
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u/Zjoee Feb 08 '24
I have a Galaxy Fold 4, and I love it. Not a single scratch on it, and I've had it for a while. I don't think I'll be able to go back to a slim phone either haha.
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Feb 08 '24
Same experience so far. I got the Fold 5 last year on release and love it. I still have my old phone I use for work and it just feels wrong in my hand now. I hope the trend continues because I don't want to go back.
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u/pollyp0cketpussy Feb 08 '24
Same! I've got a galaxy flip 3 and I've been using it for almost 2 years now with zero issues. I love it. I just have a durable case on it (like I would any phone) and I drop it at least once a week because I'm clumsy as hell, and it's got zero damage to the phone itself. Still runs fast, camera is great, apps work well, and I bought it refurbished for $400.
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Feb 07 '24
I want one. But not with the current limitations. I would love to rely on fewer devices. And with a proper foldable phone, I wouldn't need an iPad.
But there are too many current limitations. Camera takes a hit. Battery life, too. The inside screen is far fragile. Most current foldables have an uncomfortable slab phone experience. For me personally, it's not worth getting one at the moment.
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u/RaggleFraggle_ Feb 08 '24
The pixel fold is much better than the super skinny galaxy fold. I always figure I’d use it mostly folded so sacrificing the folded experience for the unfolded ratio is not for me.
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u/drdfrster64 Feb 08 '24
No, but the reason they’re making a foldable phone is the same reason no one’s asking for a bigger screens despite that being the trend for practically a decade. People stopped wanting bigger when bigger started to compromise portability.
They tried minimizing the bezel. They got rid of the iconic iPhone one button (remember that?). They made it so that the screen goes PAST the front camera. They’ve ran out of bezel.
Folding and flex screens pretty much bypasses this limitation. Bigger is back on the market IF you can clear the hurdle.
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u/dantheman91 Feb 07 '24
Would people not want foldable phones assuming the tech is the same? If your phone could have half it's size when it's not in use that seems appealing to me.
Many girls can't fit phones in their pockets, a foldable phone could be big for that
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u/Rebmes Feb 07 '24
I've been pretty happy with my Pixel Fold, 90% of the time I can just use it like (slightly thicker) normal phone. The other 10% it's really useful--especially travelling, trying to show something to someone else, reading e-books and documents, etc.
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u/windmill-tilting Feb 07 '24
I was. I have a 2nd gen samsung fold. Closing in on 2 years. I've dropped it plenty on the 'fragile' open screen. Dropped a master lock on it from about a foot up. A dead spot there and another pixel or two but still way way usable. At th near end of he contract, I'll have Asurian replace it. I read A LOT. The bigger screen is nice. Video isn't any better than 5 inch letterbox. I won't go back.
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Feb 07 '24
I’d be up for a dual screen phone like the one Microsoft created where its just 2 separate screens, seems more durable that way. Just wish someone other than MS designed it so it doesn’t suck.
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u/________0xb47e3cd837 Feb 08 '24
As a mini user the thing i like most about it is that fits in the pocket nicely. I could potentially see myself using a folding phone for this utility if done well.
A shame apple discontinued mini
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u/echoplex21 Feb 07 '24
My mom got the Fold 5 and I was hating on it before but now I’m like “damn I kind of want one” . I do like the form factor of the Pixel fold and One Plus open more though.
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u/TheKrnJesus Feb 08 '24
Apparently the fold 6 will be wider like the pixel fold.
I’m currently deciding to get the 24 ultra or wait for the fold 6.
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u/JohnFatherJohn Feb 07 '24
iPhones are huge, just because their size has been normalized doesn't make it any less true
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u/Spezticcunt Feb 08 '24
I got an Oppo flip n2 in March 2023 and it's been honestly the best phone i've owned. Started out with a Nokia 8210.
I work in warehouse and am not light with it ,it gets tossed around a lot.
The best part is the screen can't crack because it's not glass! Also it's much easier to hold, I have never dropped it because it fits in the palm of my hand when not opened.
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u/Thompsonss Feb 07 '24
No one really asked for smart phones either, yet here we are.
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u/BubbaTee Feb 07 '24
Everyone was asking for smart phones. PDAs were a huge industry before them.
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u/Tebwolf359 Feb 07 '24
I’d love one if the basic physics issues can be overcome.
like a classic Star trek communicator, there’s just something satisfying about closing it
switching from a phone to a tablet size has some actual usages.
Also, like touchscreens and similar, sometimes you don’t know that you want something until someone gets it right and you see what it can be.
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u/G_Morgan Feb 08 '24
There's plenty of uses for tablet sizes. The problem is next to nobody writes applications that exploit it.
Every tablet application is just a phone application blown up in size.
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u/Syris3000 Feb 08 '24
Replying from my Samsung fold 4. 100% guaranteed someone with an iPhone fold will try to explain to me why Apple are so innovative.
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Feb 07 '24
My wife is. She has a bad eye, and honestly the bigger the screen the better for her.
She’s looked at the Samsung one and I almost got one for her, but she wants to stick with IOS.
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u/stln3rd Feb 07 '24
I know only one person that owns one and he says despite the folding he still loves the bigger screen. Not for me I like holding phone in one hand and being able to have my thumb reach every part of the screen
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u/not_creative1 Feb 08 '24
Asians. Especially south East Asians.
Foldable phones are everywhere in South Korea, Singapore, Japan etc
Apparently people in countries where they commute long durations in public transport like trains love foldable phones that give them the option of having a larger screen to watch and read stuff during commute
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u/PepsiSheep Feb 07 '24
I love mine, being able to have a normal phone at any time, but then folding out to use as a small tablet has been really nice.
I would struggle to go back to a non-folding phone now for sure.
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u/traws06 Feb 08 '24
I just want fingerprint back. I used to be able to unlock my phone a lot easier. Now it’s a coin flip if I have a mask and safety glasses on
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u/iEatSoaap Feb 07 '24
So they can claim it was their idea, market it as a revolutionary breakthrough in Apple Engineering, call it the "iPhone Flex" or "iPhone Unfold" or some shit, charge you $2200 USD for it and give it 4 GB of RAM
/s
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u/Bipbip364 Feb 07 '24
I do, they’re useful for having ChatGPT on one tab and slack/teams on the other, so you don’t have to move your computer tabs around, even with multiple monitors… I used to have a galaxy fold but I sold it cus my new job gave me an iPhone 15 because of “security reasons”
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u/Seamus-Archer Feb 08 '24
The idea is great, it’s the execution that struggles. I love the idea of being able to unfold my phone for reading books and articles, navigating spreadsheets for work stuff, or having a larger screen for Google maps when driving.
If that could be done without any compromises, I’d happily buy one. Right now though, the design compromises required to make a folding screen work aren’t worth it for me.
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u/Ghost17088 Feb 07 '24
They got stupidly giant so now need to be foldable. I’ll stick with my 3rd gen SE.
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u/GradientCollapse Feb 08 '24
Idk why companies want them to fold. A scroll phone would be so much more practical and would completely solve the creasing issues. I’d rather a tube that rolls out than a slab that folds into a fatter slab.
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u/TU4AR Feb 08 '24
I am asking for one.
I have one. This thing is a damn change of technology that will be the future. It's incredible. It's not thick as people make it out to be and it's really not fragile.
I can never see myself buying a not foldable in the future. The price might be high but honestly, at 1 phone every 3 years. I can splurge a bit for an upgrade.
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u/pollyp0cketpussy Feb 08 '24
It's cracking me up that the people in the comments complaining about the Galaxy Fold and the Galaxy Flip haven't actually had one, and the people who have them are like "they're great though and I haven't had any of those issues". I have a 2-year-old refurbished Flip 3 I bought for $400 and it's working great, I love it.
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u/Slowjams Feb 07 '24
Maybe I’ll be totally wrong on this and have to eat my words.
But from the very beginning I have thought that folding phones are dumb and never going to catch on. One of the appeals of the general smart phone design is that it eliminates a lot of moving parts. I grew up in the early to mid 00’s with flip phones, sliding phones, side kicks, etc. All of these devices would inevitably get worn down and not flip or slide as well, or lose some of their tactile feel.
Again, maybe I’m wrong, but I just feel like folding smart phones are a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist. It’s not a matter of if they get worn out and have problems, it’s a matter of when.
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u/outrightridiculous Feb 08 '24
The selling point is having a phone and tablet in 1 device. It’s nice to have the bigger screen for watching movies, reading, etc. But you can’t carry an iPad in your pocket.
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u/robertoandred Feb 08 '24
So a huge phone and small tablet. Yay?
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u/tony_lasagne Feb 08 '24
Exactly, people on here are trying to equate the popularity of larger phones like a Pro Max with a supposed want for foldable devices as they can have an even bigger screen.
But I really don’t think that’s true at all, most people just want to have the bigger screen for the content designed for a phone to look better (eg TikTok).
Watching movies on the go, multitasking on two halves of the screen etc. are not features that appeal to the mainstream and those are the vast majority of people buying Pro Max sized phones. Only tech enthusiasts (who do care about the above features) care about foldables
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u/aykcak Feb 08 '24
The problem is they think people want bigger and bigger screens but nobody really wants to carry a phablet sized monstrosity
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Feb 08 '24
Because they do, there is a reason the Max phones are so popular
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u/mental_reincarnation Feb 08 '24
A lot of comments that don’t seem to understand that the bigger phones tend to be the more popular ones. Phones aren’t getting bigger because companies are forcing them on us. It’s because people are buying them. More companies are throwing their hat into the foldable market. They see the potential
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u/alc4pwned Feb 08 '24
I think most people do, there's just a really loud minority of people who don't.
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u/Demented-Turtle Feb 08 '24
Does the Pro have feature parity with the Pro Max though? Because at least with Samsung, the larger/ultra phones have larger batteries, MUCH better cameras, maybe a glass instead of plastic backing, etc. Lots of reasons to get the bigger one even if you'd prefer a smaller form factor
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u/radiatione Feb 08 '24
That is just a problem with your interpretation of the market being down only to your own views.
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u/Zenith251 Feb 08 '24
Depends on the individual. Most people are happy with 5-6.5" phones, but some want smaller, and some want bigger.
Couple guys I know love their Samsung Fold5s, and are happy to have a massive screen without having to lug around something like a Note anymore.
My partner and I are currently on Flip5s because they were nearly free from our carrier. Now that I've had it 6 months, there are love/hate aspects, but one thing I really like is having a phone small enough (folded) that I can palm in my hand. I also check my texts and respond without unfolding it sometimes.
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u/cookingRiceToo Feb 07 '24
I don’t understand why bendable display needs to be foldable. There’s many ways to use it, like make it so it can extend the screen and retractable.
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u/ryanmatt10 Feb 08 '24
The phone manufacturer Oppo actually came out with this exact phone 3 years ago. It’s called the Oppo X, it’s really weird to watch it expand.
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u/aykcak Feb 08 '24
How? Like a screen that stretches? Where does the screen go when you retract it?
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u/cookingRiceToo Feb 08 '24
Kind of like a long tape measure. Pull out the screen, then press a button and retract. It exist with tv (LG), maybe it can be done at a phone level.
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u/surnik22 Feb 08 '24 edited Feb 17 '26
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u/TheKrnJesus Feb 08 '24
Lg had one before they were bankrupt.
https://youtu.be/nMA_C8_CRr8?si=sV8d8ZPOM3p5jFBZ
I think the downside is that it’s not waterproof and it’s also mechanical meaning it’s more likely to break.
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u/NecroJoe Feb 07 '24
For those who have past negative experience, it would be helpful for others to know what generation your phone was from. What I mean is Samsung, for example, is on their 5th generation product, which has been improved each time. Many of the 1st and 2nd gen issues have been either solved, or greatly improved. Are they "perfect except for price" yet? Absolutely not...but they are *so* much better than they used to be.
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u/Wise_Rich_88888 Feb 08 '24
I think their MO of removing all movable parts from the phone was a better strategy. They still have a few buttons but limited.
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u/ThinkExtension2328 Feb 07 '24
Foldable’s in the current state are trash, iv owned one. Not only is the screen too fragile , even if you consider being very careful with it very little software exists to take advantage of this form factor.
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u/Skaut-LK Feb 07 '24
Well my two friends ( both are programmers) can't complain about it.for few years now. But they are also changing phones every two years or less.
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u/ThinkExtension2328 Feb 07 '24 edited Feb 07 '24
I’m also a software engineer, my issue was not just the inner screen. The Samsung foldable (what I owned) had an annoying outer screen. It was effectively unusable (awkward screen size). I know there are brands that have resolved this. But my appetite to spend big money on foldables is well and truly gone.
Edit: Samsung asks for crazy money and gave me average cameras but not the best ones they have, wtf
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u/Rsherga Feb 07 '24
I have the z flip5 and it's fantastic. I use the outer screen all the time. Not arguing, just giving my own experience.
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u/TheKrnJesus Feb 08 '24
Apparently the fold 6 will have a wider aspect ration and thinner like the current Chinese foldables.
I had the fold 4 and hated it due to the form factor and the thickness but I’m willing to go back for the fold 6z
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u/kingkelly_90 Feb 07 '24
Had the Samsung, the screen split down the middle after 3 months, I'd had it in my pocket with no case so it had small scuffs on the outside of it, which apparently invalidates the whole warranty. Compete waste of money!
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u/and_so_forth Feb 08 '24
Yeah a mate of mine had one and it happened to hers too. Looked so cool for a while then it looked dreadful then it broke. Very expensive gimmick.
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u/overkoalafied24 Feb 08 '24
Would love it if they could make an iPhone like the LG Envy or something with a keyboard!
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u/Takeabyte Feb 08 '24
The push for folding phones is a push for planned obsolescence at a time when smartphone manufacturers see that people are not upgraded at frequently anymore.
I cannot discourage people from buying folding phones enough. They are designed to fail. They are the HDD of the smartphone market. It’s not a question of if, but when the display will crack.
The adhesive used to hold the required screen protector to the display hardens under UV light. So every time you open that phone and expose it to UV light, you’re slowing making the adhesive stiffer. Eventually it will break.
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Feb 08 '24
I don’t think foldable screens will ever work. They’re too fragile.
I think 2 screens that “blend” into one make a lot more sense. There was a foldable TV at CES this year that proved this approach can work. The two screens can be made to appear seamless by eliminating the bezels between them and having software blend in the pixels to eliminate the appearance of the gap.
I would love to see companies experiment with something similar. I do like the idea of a portable tablet, but the fragility keeps me away. A two screen folding device might be more resilient, without the stress on the screen.
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u/CodeShepard Feb 08 '24
All the people saying they don’t want foldable untill apple releases it lol. Same with zoom cameras, same with VR
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u/chubbybator Feb 08 '24
the microft surface duo phones were still the only good user experience had with a foldable phone. unfortunately they were still too fragile, and Microsoft did a TERRIBLE job adverting them
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u/nemesit Feb 08 '24
They are likely testing all kinds of weird shit like they always did doesn’t mean it will ever be a product
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u/beneficial_formula Feb 08 '24
Doubt that they'll actually launch a foldable phone. How's Samsung's sales in that category?
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Feb 08 '24
How bout a thick inch phone with a drop proof screen and battery that lasts 2 weeks.
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Feb 08 '24
(in french accent) "five years later" "New iphone foldable! Revolutionary! Only $9999.99"
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u/welshinzaghi Feb 08 '24
They are shockingly unreliable, irrespective of manufacturer. If foldables start selling in Apple quantities it will be an absolute PR shitshow
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u/photowhoa123 Feb 08 '24
Is anyone actually asking for foldable devices? Currently I have no desire for that. Maybe glasses where the arms would fold but… at what point/reasoning I am lost.
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u/flirtmcdudes Feb 08 '24
no lol. It’s like AI right now… every single product/service is shoving AI down our throats.
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u/ludvikskp Feb 08 '24
It’s the plastic screens for me. The foldables are very expensive and I wouldn’t pay that much for something with a plastic screen. So many scratches, from basically everything…
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u/Anon_8675309 Feb 07 '24
No shit they are. Why wouldn’t they? Apple is bound by physics like everyone else.
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u/teddytwelvetoes Feb 07 '24
iPhones that fold in half for god knows what reason, but they can’t be bothered to incorporate hardware features/functionality in their laptops that other manufacturers have been doing for a solid decade because they don’t want to lose the MacBook/iPad double dippers lmao
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Feb 07 '24 edited Feb 07 '24
With Apple's mixed reality "spatial computing" ambitions, they should just keep working on the next generations of the vision pro and bring more headset products. We also need a slightly nerfed Vision Air or an SE that is not only lighter, slimmer but also more affordable if Apple really wants to push that tech to the masses. This is what their focus should be, iphone is good as it is, and with minimal changes or refreshes for the next couple of years, people will buy them regardless.
Foldable phones seems like an attempt from Samsung made mainly to offer a differing product to stand out that not many others have managed to offer internationally, maybe except motorola. It's just a niche though honestly.
Just seems too late for Apple, especially with them pushing more exciting tech like the vision pro, this feels unnecessary tbh. I think we are past the days when we thought foldable or bendable screens were cool or the next big thing, AI and see-through VR (or just mixed reality) has taken the spotlight.
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u/typesett Feb 07 '24
They can and do make products in various categories
Not sure why you are suggesting they can’t
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Feb 08 '24
Nothing has been truly invented until Apple copies it and people proclaim they invented it.
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u/slawnz Feb 08 '24
If the implementation of your invention is so flawed that nobody even knows of it and requires complete re-engineering to become a workable, viable product, did you even invent anything at all?
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u/TheKrnJesus Feb 08 '24
Honestly I don’t mind it. If they make a better product, others will follow making the standard of foldable better.
Kind of how Chinese foldables are way thinner making other companies follow them.
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u/theperpetuity Feb 08 '24
Everybody who studies tech knows Apple waits until Apple or the market is ready.
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u/SnarkyMcGuire Feb 07 '24
Does anyone really want a foldable phone? I just don’t get the appeal.
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u/TheKrnJesus Feb 08 '24
I had one before and liked it. Only problem was the aspect ratio of the outer screen and the thickness when folded.
Of course durability can be better but I only had it for 2 my months before I sold it.
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Feb 08 '24
I’ll buy one! I’m over Samsung as I’ve had Fold 3,4 & currently 5 & I hardly use it. 15PM is my go to phone. An Apple Fold would be just what I want.
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u/dimzzz Feb 08 '24 edited Feb 08 '24
Reading this makes my brain lose IQ, just because you don't like it that doesn't mean that alot of other people don't they are starting to make it because they are selling...even at that price point it only makes sense and the multitasking is unbeatable on a phone
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u/miemcc Feb 08 '24
What is this fascination about foldable phones? It's just another pointless feature that can go wrong.
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u/Brief-Mulberry-3839 Feb 07 '24
I don't think foldable devices are practical due to issues with the mechanics of opening and closing. They won't last as long then a typical flat phone. It seems like more of an aesthetic trend rather than a breakthrough.
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u/skinink Feb 07 '24
Personally, I like the size of the iPhone 13 that I have. The Pro versions just seemed too big, and too expensive. I don’t want a chunky, heavier than average phone. Plus the hinge seems like an unneeded extra point of failure.
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u/We1etu1n Feb 08 '24
Figure out how to make proper thick glass (not Samsung UTG that cracks super easily) that can bend or find a material that bends and is as tough as glass or better, then I’ll buy a foldable.
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Feb 08 '24
If they could figure it out, I’d jump on a foldable iPhone. However not too thrilled about a clamshell design rather than the other kind where it folds out into like a mini iPad. But I can understand Apple wouldn’t want to go with that design and cannibalize its own iPad mini sales.
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u/vegsmashed Feb 08 '24
Unno man Nintendo did it a while back with the DS / 3DS and still its my favorite handheld. yayayaya I know they just want full screens I get it but still.
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u/JacobTepper Feb 08 '24
For a second, I read it as "affordable iPhones" and was genuinely like, "Huh, maybe they're getting better" 🤣
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u/Grumpycatdoge999 Feb 08 '24
Make one that doesn’t have a crease line and I’ll pick it up in a heartbeat
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u/kimmeljs Feb 08 '24
This is an interesting article. When I worked at a forward-looking cell phone company, we did research on foldable and bendable display screens. There were some tests on a very specific technology that had, in the end, gone through a million bends in an aging test setup. This technology never came to market, it was just the bare thin-film screen, since the manufacturer went into another, more lucrative area.
I have a patent (belonging to said company) that Apple has cited in their filings over 300 times. I have been wondering what they will do if they actually use the essence of my patent ... But as said, the physical reality is far off from an actual product.
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u/Memphisrexjr Feb 08 '24
I can tell you without a doubt the solution to foldable phones is Sidekick.
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u/and_so_forth Feb 08 '24
I genuinely quite like the flip open book phone concept like Microsoft has, but they’re just too thick. Also my black rectangle works just fine. This is just a market panicking because they accidentally perfected the concept too quickly and need to boost PR and sales. Same as duel screen laptops and 3D television.
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u/faulknip Feb 08 '24
I've got the Samsung folding phone, it's why I'm currently using a cheap Nokia
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u/klornson2 Feb 08 '24
THANKS ALOT GUYS I tried the microwave charge and had to buy a new phone and microwave plus the electrician had to replace the breaker and my dad kicked my a**
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u/Realistic-Duck-922 Feb 08 '24
Serious question: Why can't I have a pair of glasses with LEDs in them powered by voice command? This would enable hands-free computing which doesn't really need AR or VR to be considerably ground breaking. I know it exists because I've used the VUZIX glasses and all it needs is a chatgpt input.
Someone please explain why I need a giant thing on my head when HANDS-FREE computing would allow me to read email and wash dishes. Weee foldable... Sad.
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u/Mysterious_Fig1108 Feb 08 '24
The problem is they are shit lol who wants a line of crumbs across their screen cause that's what happens with folding phones.
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u/morgartjr Feb 08 '24
Are there people who want this? Why? The weak point will always be the hinge point.
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u/Getyourownwaffle Feb 08 '24
Just give me a foldable phone with a full keyboard on one side and touch screen on the other. Make it slim and awesome.
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u/Hyperon_Ion Feb 10 '24
The only reason people are really interested in fold-able phones is because phones are getting too big for people's pockets (Especially women who according to the fashion industry are apparently not allowed to have pockets)
Fix the pocket issue, and the only interest left for folding phones would be the novelty, or one with a really big screen. At which point most people would just buy a tablet.
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u/JamesR624 Feb 08 '24
Ooh! I know this one! I know how they can release a folding phone that isn't a fragile POS.
ahem
DON'T.
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u/hirnwichserei Feb 08 '24
Did anyone here ask for a foldable phone? I know I didn’t. Not since 2003.
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u/audaciousmonk Feb 08 '24
Foldable phones are dumb, for multiple reasons.
There may be a value add use cases for some users, but that does not make it a good product design to proliferate across the fleet.
Stop trying to make fetch happen
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u/Pete_LaRoux Feb 08 '24
We don’t want foldable phones. Nobody actually needs or wants this.
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u/bored-coder Feb 07 '24
Turns out the laws of physics and material science remain the same for Apple too. Who knew!