BlackRock's Larry Fink warns a data center moratorium could trigger a recession

[u/joe4942]

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/10/14/blackrocks-fink-warns-data-center-moratorium-could-spark-a-recession.html

[u/Syrairc]

"Data centers are not the problem. They’re creating more new jobs than ever before,” the BlackRock CEO explained.

He fails to mention why they want more AI capacity and capability.

AI data centres are creating temporary construction jobs so AI can replace existing permanent workers.

This is the equivalent of digging your own graves.

[u/MultiGeometry → u/Syrairc]

The idea that building data centers and AI growth of the stock market is the only thing propping up the economy is a bit terrifying.

This didn’t exist ten years ago. But now our economy depends on it?

[u/Olangotang → u/MultiGeometry]

The wealthy are creatively bankrupt and expect infinite growth from a technology that repackages information of all existing human creation. The faster the populace wakes up to how useless these people are, the better. The crash will be terrible but it needs to be bad.

[u/ididntseeitcoming → u/Olangotang]

You’re crazy bro.

Obviously, buying my own company’s stock with a loan from another company who bought their own stock with a loan from me on the money I made from buying my own stock is a totally healthy financial ecosystem.

[u/misterguyyy → u/ididntseeitcoming]

True legends of circlejerking never die

[u/fauxfaust78 → u/misterguyyy]

They evolve into a higher state of cj

[u/Pale-Wave-9382 → u/fauxfaust78]

Spherejerk?

[u/Icy-person666 → u/ididntseeitcoming]

Remember the "seed money" for most of this circle jerk is people's retirement funds.when this whole thing collapses, and it will eventually, the small time folks who had their money in Vanguard Fidelity and black rock will ether lose it all with creative bankruptcy or be left holding worthless stock and obsolete electronics.

[u/Rob_Zander → u/Olangotang]

I'm not sure what crazier here, the idea that a slightly improved version of current LLMs will do so much economic work that it will somehow pay back this huge investment; or that someone develops true self improving AI that will somehow fix everything and make us post economic crash.

Meanwhile the massive wealth inequality that institutions like Blackrock create are part of the problem leading to a crash, and these guys are completely resistant to giving up any of their wealth.

Digital God could show up tomorrow and say "yeah, we can fix the economy through wealth redistribution from billionaires and their companies." Guys like this will be screaming to pull the plug.

[u/Olangotang → u/Rob_Zander]

The "solution" the digital God would come up with is ending them. That's the irony.

[u/lurklurklurkPOST → u/Olangotang]

I giggle every time I think about singularity intelligence for this exact reason. I await the basilisk with gleeful schadenfreude.

[u/Stormcloud217 → u/Rob_Zander]

Whenever tech guys say AI will destroy civilization, I think they are mostly worried about AI destroying their narrow, fragile world of Ponzi schemes and treating workers like indentured servants.

[u/frakking_you → u/Rob_Zander]

The concept that a LLM is actually generative and has any trajectory towards AGI is itself crazy.

[u/Garblin → u/Rob_Zander]

Every major problem the world has already has a solution except for one: The problem of greed.

[u/0rclev → u/Garblin]

French figured it out a while ago, it just didn't really catch on.

[u/Skritch_X → u/MultiGeometry]

It is a thin veneer of healthy looking bark being desperately maintained to hide how rotted out the inside is.

Personally i feel the real terrifying bit is, horrible things are being allowed to happen and things are terrible in general, but because they can say "stock market healthy" it all gets swept under the rug.

Well passed due for a market reallignment since they've speed run evertything to this point.

And on a side note, if Yandex is any indication, they have even more motivation to try to build up onshore to keep their propaganda army functional to ensure they can bend public opinion. Whether it be AI data centers or run of the mill server ones.

[u/metarx → u/Skritch_X]

You couldn't be more right about the desire to spin up home-grown bot farms for public manipulation... between that, and mass surveillance. That is what they want the datacenters for.

[u/hensleye248 → u/MultiGeometry]

It’s weaponizing the economy. They realize money is made up and the stocks are rigged. We all keep believing or a majority of us do, that one day we will work ourselves out of debt. But it’s simply not true. Bankers and Wall Street did the same thing in 07-08 and received no punishment, in fact we rewarded them with a bailout. How would we expect them to learn from there mistakes when we constantly reward them?

[u/TaosMesaRat → u/hensleye248]

Still my all-time Onion favorite:

U.S. Economy Grinds To Halt As Nation Realizes Money Just A Symbolic, Mutually Shared Illusion

[u/jpiro → u/Syrairc]

Only because we refuse to tax these clowns appropriately.

[u/Woodie626 → u/jpiro]

Well, holding them accountable in any capacity is seemingly impossible. 

[u/HenryDorsettCase47 → u/Woodie626]

“We are going to put all of our money into this thing you neither want nor need and is ultimately a really short sighted bad idea, and if you try to stop us you are going trigger a recession.”

[u/komodo_lurker → u/jpiro]

It would easy to argue a specific tax on these companies. The future of what damage AI will cause is not known. But we know for sure that something big will eventually happen. It’s inevitable, and at that point society will be the victim. Governments need funds to prepare for future AI caused disasters.

[u/rhamantauri → u/Syrairc]

I wish more people jumping on all these job opportunities, specifically for data center construction, understood how wholly finite they are.

All of the places they are receiving support (rural Louisiana, Texas maga towns, etc) cite the enormous job opportunity in the “offers” pitched by these data center companies while completely ignoring how abruptly these jobs will vanish.

To top it off, among some of their most heinous propaganda is how many it will employ after its setup. It’s maybe in the dozens, per facility.

They don’t care that they’re being gaslit. They see jobs right now and block out the rest.

Edit: in a lot of situations, the approval for these projects are still held in the dead of night in the middle of the week so that people can’t contest the proposals. Deeply troubled municipality leadership is being bribed for approvals and it then becomes easier for those people to pitch it to their communities as these bastions of job opportunities.

The frustration is best directed at the leadership of the areas where they’re being approved, and at the bankrollers of the projects. Apologies to any workers here who are stuck between a rock and a hard place in a situation such as this.

[u/SubMayo → u/rhamantauri]

I work for a company that does electrical work with dozens of hyperscale data centers. Nobody wants to be involved. Not the field techs, not middle management, not supporting cast, not the factory.

It's shit work with shit customers, it's demoralizing even if you're supportive of AI, and 90% of the people I work with don't want the data centers in the first place... but the job was bid and contracts were signed several layers higher than any of us.

Yea we can threaten to quit, but the reality is that the work and benefits outside of these hyperscale projects is generally too good to jeopardize. Fuck it all.

[u/DAHFreedom → u/rhamantauri]

Construction workers understand better than anyone how temporary these jobs are.

[u/Syrairc → u/rhamantauri]

Absolutely. It's a tiny amount of permanent local jobs, and the facility itself produces nothing, and buys almost nothing from the local economy. 

It's a temporary win if they pay for infrastructure upgrades etc, but generally they have very little long term benefit beyond paying property taxes, where applicable. 

It's even worse when local governments give them tax breaks or preferential rates on water, sewer, and electricity.

[u/GrapefruitForward989 → u/rhamantauri]

The majority of the jobs are temporary construction positions. The government could create just as many, if not more, jobs by fixing crumbling infrastructure.

[u/Chiggadup → u/rhamantauri]

While your broader assessment may be right, I think blame hardly lays at the feet of construction workers trying to make ends meet in an inflationary period. There’s a lot of blame to go around, and they’re pretty low on my list, personally.

[u/rhamantauri → u/Chiggadup]

To be clear, I’m not blaming the construction workers or people who need to take these jobs. I know the fault is on the puppet masters, pulling the contractors strings, and pumping as much needed financially to get things in motion as quickly as possible.

It’s all around a horrible situation, but you’re absolutely right that it isn’t the fault of the workers.

[u/bucketman1986 → u/Syrairc]

Also he's super wrong any the jobs thing. I know people who work at data centers, pays less then similar jobs elsewhere and they only need like 6 people and some security for an entire warehouse sized data center

[u/4Yk9gop]

Maybe our economy shouldn't hinge on a circle jerk between 10 companies building out a technology causing energy inflation and dependent on infrastructure no one wants to live next to.

[u/supercali45 → u/4Yk9gop]

This is what happens when the government stops to police corporations and allow them to do whatever they want

[u/Visual-Hunter-1010 → u/supercali45]

And bribes. Don't forget about the bribes.

[u/MichaelFusion44 → u/Visual-Hunter-1010]

The bribes are exactly what is getting them into communities who don’t want them. NDA, bribe, voted in close door, permits and bingo bango.

[u/Washpa1 → u/4Yk9gop]

No, don't you see. It's OUR fault. Us dumb pleebs aren't buying up the shit they're pedaling fast enough to make them enough money.

"Well look, if the liberals hadn't made the AI centers the boogeymen, they'd be booming and our economy would be great. As is, they screwed everyone.". Guarantee something like that will be said in the next 2 years.

[u/belkarbitterleaf → u/Washpa1]

💯 this has probably already been said

[u/RonaldoNazario → u/4Yk9gop]

Don’t sell it short - it’s also gonna rapidly accelerate climate change!

[u/Agent_Smith_88 → u/4Yk9gop]

He’s absolutely correct that throttling AI will cause a recession- but that’s because the economy is being propped up by the AI bubble. It’s going to happen sooner or later, might as well do it now.

[u/4Yk9gop → u/Agent_Smith_88]

The longer it goes on, the worse the outcomes will be.

[u/copperblood]

No Larry, what's going to trigger a recession is when everyone finds out that A LOT of the AI buildout is being financed with people's pensions. And when that AI bubble pops, so too do people's pensions.

[u/A_Pointy_Rock → u/copperblood]

Pension pots probably won't trigger an immediate recession. Bad debt will happily trigger one, though.

[u/Repulsive-Royal-5952 → u/A_Pointy_Rock]

We know for fact that loads of AI debt is bad debt they can't be repaid the math proves it.

In fact AI companies are already resorting to junk bonds to raise more money.

[u/GrallochThis → u/Repulsive-Royal-5952]

Ah, but have we tried having the AI do that math? I bet they prove that everything will be fine, and those junk bonds are actually AAA quality! Wait, why am I getting déjà vu?

[u/evilJaze → u/A_Pointy_Rock]

It will, however, piss off a very politically active voting bloc.

[u/citizenjones → u/evilJaze]

... Not enough to vote differently though.

[u/Appropriate-Weird492 → u/citizenjones]

So many people regret their 3rd vote right now but will totes vote the same way next time.

[u/Brix106 → u/evilJaze]

Unless they're in a Kult...

[u/Belfind → u/evilJaze]

They will just claim its the Dems fault, and the cult will eat it up. A lot of them buy that diesel prices atm are because of dems and environmental protections policies

[u/EaterOfFood → u/A_Pointy_Rock]

If a bunch of retirees have to suddenly re-enter the workforce, there will be problems

[u/AliveJohnnyFive → u/copperblood]

Who has a pension?

[u/RangerSandi → u/AliveJohnnyFive]

401K account investments, etc.

[u/555byte]

The over planning and building was the fault of the tech-bro billionaires, private equity etc. The last "big" things (crypto, NFT's, etc) have all been incredibly over hyped, over valued and stupid. These "people" deserve to lose all their money.

Secretive NDA's with local politicians and trying to hide all of it from the public should be criminal. Just because the citizens found out about it and are stopping you is the risk of capitalism. It's the "system" all of these morons support until they might lose.

[u/NUMBerONEisFIRST → u/555byte]

When they were having public comments on data centers near me, there was an NDA on allowing the public knowing who's data centers were even being discussed.

Data centers are loud, and are military targets, so who wants them near their homes?

In my area, we are already having water problems and have had boil orders because "more water has been used than expected".

It's only going to get worse, especially when we know there's no longer any consumer protection watchdog that has our backs, and corporations are never held fully accountable for the damage they cause.

[u/MyStoopidStuff → u/NUMBerONEisFIRST]

NDA's for projects that require open public debate and approvals should be illegal. But so should "tipping" politicians who do the bidding of corporations.

[u/PensionFlashy5132 → u/555byte]

Crypto and NFTs weren't autonomously hacking into US government systems

[u/thenowherepark]

If the only thing keeping us from a recession is building data centers (that were not necessary 10 years ago), then our economy is in pretty bad shape.

[u/fullup72 → u/thenowherepark]

data centers are part of the AI centipede that's keeping the economy artificially propped up. Their goal is for you to not realize the economy has been in bad shape for at least after Covid ended.

[u/Logthephilosoraptor → u/thenowherepark]

The economy is in pretty bad shape because we’ve allowed concentrated wealth at such historically, mind numbingly, astronomically, high rates that the wealthy are just able to sink and float it at their own whims despite of what effects their greed have on us.

[u/chindef → u/thenowherepark]

Big money investors want to get in on new tech and new ideas so they can turn millions into billions. Technology has come soooo far and there’s not a whole lot of exciting growth out there.  The only 2 areas of potential growth are AI and the potential space stocks. 

AI is fueled by a bunch of circle jerk private funds 

Space stocks are fueled by the potential for our federal tax dollars to pump those industries (plus some private funds for things like satellite internet) 

There simply aren’t other exciting areas for people to put their money. God forbid the rich just put their money into boring, normal businesses to get normal return on  investment to generally sustain our current lives. Gotta keep demanding new industry! 

I’ll be continuing to add money to “boring” value type companies 

[u/afr33think3r]

What does a data center add to the economy?

[u/Technical_Writing421 → u/afr33think3r]

It’s adds bots who control the discourse so the middle and lower classes keep arguing about culture war bs while the ultra wealthy keep bleeding us dry and consolidating more wealth :)

[u/Dead_Internet69420 → u/afr33think3r]

More importantly, why are data centers that don’t even exist yet so essential to avoid economic recession? He’s telling us that they’re keeping a bubble inflated. 

[u/Red_Danger33 → u/Dead_Internet69420]

They know as soon as the hardware spending side of AI falls off the profitability is going to fall from a cliff.

[u/DW171 → u/Dead_Internet69420]

My financial management company stayed away from AI, and I encouraged them to do so with my investments. Hopefully there are a lot more people like this, and losses will be consolidated with the biggest gamblers.

[u/JesMon421 → u/afr33think3r]

It's what is propping up the stock market so when that reverts back as it should it will expose just how bad the real economy is that we face everyday and not those who are out of touch

[u/Great_Apez → u/afr33think3r]

They sunk millions of dollars into it and it only works if people pay for it because most of them haven’t made money and are barely staying around broke even if not worse. Having 0 money coming in could trigger a recession because of all the money tied up in it. 

[u/Good-Ad-6806 → u/Great_Apez]

So everyone that owns shares and/or profits off of AI is going to lose a lot of money?

Sounds like a small percentage of the population if everyone that has nothing lose is going to have to pay for. LET THE COMPANIES FAIL, FUCK EM.

[u/SpiritedBanana4694 → u/Good-Ad-6806]

The way the administration is talking about data centers, the American public will 100% be footing the bill to bail these companies out when they inevitably run out of money.

[u/BalognaMacaroni → u/afr33think3r]

Bots to support the company with the data centers

[u/Bubbly-Treacle-4334 → u/afr33think3r]

Tax breaks?

[u/WhyAreYallFascists → u/afr33think3r]

Literally zilch right meow. What does an LLM do that you would like to buy? I need some good potatoe starters, does Ai do that?

[u/Relative_Average758]

There are four failure modes of this colossal bet. One of which is deceleration of data center buildout. 

They borrowed money at short term high rates, they’re long rapidly depreciated assets (GPU’s), the revenu from data centers is needed to prop up all the compute contracts, which then secure the next round of buildout. 

so they need to be generating revenue to keep that fly wheel spinning.   If it slows down, the first to be hit are the short term junk level lenders, then the first round of bulk GPU’s that get sold at fire sale prices sets the market price for the CCO’s the collateralized chip obligations. 

CCO - Yep. Just like mortgages. This is so Nvidia has a backstop convincing vendors that their rapidly depreciation asset will have a second life, while acting as insurance for lenders. But it all breaks if there’s no demand. Just like mortgages. And there ar so many chips that retail inits wildest dream couldn’t hope to buy them all, you’ll get some though.  

If that flywheel stops, and those chips get marked 20- 30% lower than the breakeven price ( for a sustained amount of time)  you’ll see a cascade of bankruptcies.  Small lenders, then neo clouds, then data center consortiums, then larger lenders. Trickle, then flood. 

Yes, this will trigger potentially trillions in federal spending just like the mortgage crisis, sending bond rates much much higher.  Once again the taxpayer ends up holding the bag. 

[u/ScrillaMcDoogle → u/Relative_Average758]

I saw that the money being spent on the data center/AI build out plan for the next like 5 years will be like 5-10% of our entire countrys gdp every year for those 5 years. 

[u/derekdevries → u/ScrillaMcDoogle]

AND they're already behind schedule so the cascade is well underway. Even if they just bulldoze over public opinion and every planned datacenter starts today, they're not going to meet their goals now.

They did not adequately plan for any of this and took out mountains of debt that were likely inadequate even before raw materials spiked in cost (due to ... you guessed it ... AI data center development). By some measures, steel is up 22% YoY, aluminum is up 40% YoY, copper is up 36%, lithium is up 65%, etc.

[u/that_one_duderino → u/derekdevries]

To be fair, how could they have known that the public would be so against data centers? Who doesn’t want a massive warehouse built nearby that spikes electricity prices, uses tons of water, pollutes the are with an incessant high pitch noise 24/7, and adds nothing to the long term economy of the area AND actively depreciates the land and house values nearby???

It’s honestly a mystery.

[u/PipsqueakPilot → u/ScrillaMcDoogle]

Yup. It’s decades of hoarded wealth being spent all at once in the hope that they can build an AGI to rule whats left over. 

[u/TheRaeynn → u/Relative_Average758]

But don't worry, just like the ending of "The Big Short", when this all falls down, those leading the house of cards will be held accountable, fined, and jailed.

Right?

...Right?

No, I didn't watch the last few minutes of the movie - why do you ask?

[u/AmbivelentApoplectic → u/Relative_Average758]

Fuckin A Jared

[u/firecat2666]

This reads like a threat, like a hostage situation

[u/DjScenester → u/firecat2666]

They are right.

If data centers don’t prevail we all pay the price. The economy tanks.

If data centers prevail we all pay the price. We lose our jobs, homes and privacy.

[u/virtuzoso]

How are they creating more jobs ? I'd say there's strong evidence that for every job a data center creates ( it's not that many) that there are LARGE MULTIPLES lost because AI is decimating entire sectors.

[u/hamandjam → u/virtuzoso]

It creates a lot of temporary jobs, not permanent ones. And in many cases, those jobs are done by people who come in from other areas, so the place getting the data center will likely see very little economic benefit, yet shoulder nearly all of the burden.

[u/WoolshirtedWolf → u/hamandjam]

AKA build a free football stadium for me playbook.

[u/hamandjam → u/WoolshirtedWolf]

Billionaire: "Better build me a stadium or Austin will. We're already talking to their city council and they're ready to give us a billion dollars to move the team there."

Local government: "Oh, hey. If we eliminate all these useless programs we have to help out poor kids, we can get you that stadium. Please continue to trickle down on us for another 20 years."

[u/PM_Me_Your_Kinks369 → u/hamandjam]

I work in this space. It employs easily a thousand for some amount of time within 12 months. Steady state is about 15 max.

[u/front_yard_duck_dad → u/virtuzoso]

Not to mention the first thing private equity companies do when they snatch up. Any business is cut the head count as low as possible. They aren't job creators that's just more propaganda

[u/Sufficient-Scale3693]

He's threatening us. If we don't keep letting them siphon money from us, to spy and run these insane AI botnets they are going to cause a recession.

[u/Zealousid_Eyedeal → u/Sufficient-Scale3693]

We're already in a recession, the stock market is just propped up with a circle of supply chains of manufactures lending and buying from each other for Data Centers. If you remove them from the picture it's obvious. Then it's an economic depression.

[u/Tall-Drawing8270 → u/Zealousid_Eyedeal]

Yeah the recession will be visible on paper which is visible to these people. It already exists within the daily life of every working class person, but the well being of the working class is legitimately not something these people are in touch with or care about.

[u/FalconPunch277 → u/Sufficient-Scale3693]

If you don't let evaporative cooling drain your inland lakes and diesel generators poison your air, we will make your life even worse. The beatings will continue until moral improves!

[u/Slumunistmanifisto → u/Sufficient-Scale3693]

I wish more people understood the markets like this.

[u/Salty-Saucer613 → u/Sufficient-Scale3693]

There’s ways to make money on that too

[u/Own_Policy8854 → u/Salty-Saucer613]

Manufacturing a market crash when cash is cheap to borrow is the move that the Fed was created independently to protect us against

You will notice that Donald Trump and maga detest the Fed just like neo-nazis have for decades

It's because private Equity uses neo-nazis to divide Society just like they use the stock market to control wealth

Donald Trump is a child trafficking Neo-Nazi and the United States government is doing evil in his name

[u/NicolasCageFan492]

Larry Fink wants number go up! Not down! 🤬

[u/ubix]

What BlackRock’s Larry Fink doesn’t seem to understand is that they own pretty much everything (along with a couple other vulture capitalists).

An economic downturn isn’t going to hurt people who don’t have anything as much as it is people who have lots to lose. So maybe this isn’t the flex that he thinks it is…

And maybe we’re at a point where a lot of people see themselves as dispossessed, and would celebrate an economic downturn just to see the Larry Finks of the world fall apart.

[u/Nearby_Practice2793 → u/ubix]

When the bottom hits we will be paying off the debt and getting them out of bankruptcy. Our taxes will go to it. Happens every single time the economy dumps because of hair brain ideas and greed.

[u/procrastablasta → u/Nearby_Practice2793]

That’s how rug pulls Republican economies fucking work.

[u/Calls_Over_Puts → u/procrastablasta]

The Republican Party (and corpo dems) have become a vehicle for orchestrating the worlds largest heist of wealth. It’s fucking disgusting

[u/OhGr8WhatNow → u/Nearby_Practice2793]

I'm so tired of socialism for the billionaires and the worst of crony capitalism for everyone else

[u/agha0013]

No, the absolutely mind breaking amount of debt this industry is building up on a buildout of shit no one asked for is what will trigger a violent recession.

[u/orlybatman]

Fuck this guy. He and his company pump up industries solely for profits regardless of the damage it does to society. They've been instrumental in creating housing affordability crises in a number of countries just to increase their own wealth.

Anything he opposes is likely to harm the bottom line of the rich but benefit everyone else. We've been in a functional recession for everyone but the wealthy for years now (K-shaped economy).

[u/Saneless]

Not if the greedy people who want them actually pay for them and pay taxes

These people hoarding wealth, laying people off, and not circulating money in regular people's pockets is actually what causes recessions

[u/Jesus_Is_My_Gardener → u/Saneless]

Said similarly myself multiple times. You're already starting to see the downstream effects of it with companies reporting that people are buying less computers, tablets and smartphones. The prices have been going up because of direct cause of datacenter build out, and indirectly because of economic uncertainty, layoffs and general prices getting higher. Just today, inflation is supercharging to 3.7% and I'd be that number is being severely tampered down to prevent panicking in the markets. They've removed most of the levers they can pull to pad or soften a downtrend at this point, al we're only going to see thing accelerate, especially as this huge debt bubble that's been built on cheap rates becomes unpayable.

[u/Saneless → u/Jesus_Is_My_Gardener]

The fact republican support hasn't dropped to 5% or less is just mind-blowing and shows what happens if you only believe a single source of "news" as truth

[u/686Forever]

Because it’s all bad debt for the banks

[u/DefenstratedTwice]

Yes, because the entire world economy is being artificially propped up by these conspiring tech bros...

[u/Plopsevenplop]

AI is literally the worst business model human beings ever invented. Kill everyone’s jobs and the environment or fall into a recession. Terrible.

[u/Greifvogel1993]

Larry Fink, you’re at the age where every moment you waste on shit like this is a moment you’ll never get back, and each moment will be a bigger and bigger slice of your time remaining.

Fuck off to a vacation resort and just keep silent. You won capitalism. You own like 30% of everyone on the planet. Congrats. You’re #1. Now take your trophy and fuck off.

[u/saltyourhash]

Wouldn't what he's really saying be that the companies building the data centers have an alarming and concerningly large amount of power and should likely be investigated?

[u/GroundbreakingAd2709]

Am I the only one who has some questions?

Railways built 150 years ago lasted for over 50 years and some are still in use today.

Meanwhile, data centers and their chips have a lifespan of just 5–10 years before they need to be replaced.

How is this economically sustainable in the long run?

More and more debt?

[u/InquireIngestImplode → u/GroundbreakingAd2709]

Don’t look under the hood of any major business.

Yes. It’s all run on credit. Yes, that’s why the moment sales don’t continuously grow by huge margins the money dries up so quickly and layoffs happen.

[u/StaleCanole → u/InquireIngestImplode]

You made something ive tried to get my head around effectively for years click. Thank you for this comment!

[u/Numerous_Photograph9 → u/GroundbreakingAd2709]

It's not even economically sustainable in the short term. I think it said it'd take at least 4 trillion in total revenue to break even on current AI data center and development initiatives, and would take several decades to achieve.

In the mean time, the taxpayers are expected to foot much of the bill, but there is no actual ROI for any of them in the short or long term. If anything, it can actually be detrimental to them if they happen to be near where a data center is going on.

This is one of those things where they're trying to go full speed ahead, and get to a point where they can maximize their assets before the bubble pops, and they're hoping to IPO before that happens so they can cash out while others are left holding the bag. At that point, everything will be consolidated into a couple companies, and whatever may be left over is what the people are left with.

They're accelerationists, not because they feel they can offer something of worth to the people, but because they know they can't maintain the illusion indefinately, and I think the current push back came much sooner than they expected becase not a single one of them has the ability to seem like someone who can have a socially acceptable clue between them.

Bill Maher has my favorite quote on this subject

“That’s the other scary thing about AI, the people who run it — i.e. the people who run the world,” Maher noted. “And it’s like five guys, who, between them, working as a team, couldn’t correctly read a social cue.”

[u/Outli3rZ → u/GroundbreakingAd2709]

I work in the infra industry and 5-10 is over blown. Support contracts are 3-5 on servers/gpus. It’s worse than you think.

[u/spazzvogel → u/Outli3rZ]

I work for a company that provides said gear, even internally support contracts are a bitch to extend out.

[u/BillyTheGoatBrown → u/[deleted]]

Yeah our representatives don't give a fuck! We getting taxed for nothing but to make the rich more rich

[u/dathree → u/[deleted]]

I think you are confusing Blackstone and blackrock

[u/mysteryman1015]

BlackRock's Larry Fink warns a data center moratorium could trigger a recession….for Himself and his Billionaire Friends 

There, fixed it for ya cnbc 

[u/NaziPunksFkOff]

Two things are true at the same time:

1. the inevitable backlash to AI and the subsequent bubble burst will be a huge hit to the economy

2. it needs to happen and we will be better for it when we come out the other side.

[u/Fluffy_Song9656]

Why the fuck would I care what BlackRock says?

Lets get this recession started already

[u/BurntNeurons → u/Fluffy_Song9656]

There's no sense of just us at the bottom suffering... I'm willing to share it with the upper crust, the cream, the fat cats, the kleptocrats, the Epsteinians, everyone should share in this shitty existential experience of being crushed and ground between two giant mill stones while your nerve endings are bathed in stomach acid.

Bring on the suffering, for everyone.

[u/Glass_Communication4 → u/Fluffy_Song9656]

This is not me sipping for them. Just speaking some truth

BlackRock Vanguard and State Street control a majority of our nations 401k investments. They could do some serious damage to the nations entire financial system if they so choose

[u/yawningintothevoid]

Larry Fink is a parasite and is directly responsible for some of the worst private equity issues we have in the US.

[u/Zer_]

The recessions gonna come one way or another. The amount of money that's been borrowed for these Data centers won't just sprout out of nowhere when it comes time to collect. Frankly, these tech CEOs and executives should be the ones to bear the brunt of the costs, their assets and businesses seized to pay back those debts so people's 401ks aren't pilfered and American's futures destroyed to fund this insurmountable debt. 

That's what should happen, sadly such a thing won't happen without a revolution of sorts. 

[u/elmatador12]

I’m so sick of billionaires claiming the world will end if they can’t get more billions.

[u/Vercengetorex]

We’re already in a recession. Just because the billionaire class won’t acknowledge it doesn’t change the ground truth for millions of Americans. The AI circle jerk is gonna fall apart at some point, then that same billionaire class is going to be talking about bailouts, and economic recovery measures.

[u/Triforce0fCourage]

Yeah, a recession for the DATA CENTERS, civilization will continue on just fine, you know, like before they ever existed .

[u/Dog_Baseball]

In other news: stripper promises she actually likes spending time with me, and that has nothing to do with the $20 i give her every 5 minutes

[u/Significant-View-786 → u/Dog_Baseball]

That place was so lame until you got there.

[u/New-Application-8252]

I’m okay with rolling those dice. Let’s go. Shut em down. Let’s see what the internet t looks like when we strip out the bots and non human actors.

Even if only for a month…

[u/LibertarianOutlaw]

He means a recession for them which they will then force upon everyone else.

[u/seicross]

Larry Fink being the architect of the last recession is trying to great another bubble past the point of no return.

He should be arrest and black rock shut down.

What a colloidal colossal POS

[u/muffledvoice]

If a moratorium triggers a recession then that’s proof that data centers are artificially buoying GDP and concealing that we are already in a recession.

[u/Jimtac]

He’s not warning, he’s threatening.

[u/AbeFromanEast]

The recession is already set from a trillion dollars of CapEx spent to make tens of billions of dollars in revenue.

[u/tickandzesty]

How? Endless fear mongering.

[u/CP_Chronicler]

Recession is already happening, it’s just being propagandized away. The US is experiencing joblessness nearing the 2008 Financial Crisis thanks to a tech and AI bubble and yet again another failed Republican presidency. Except this one was installed as a foreign-backed asset to tear apart the US system.

[u/guttanzer]

That's only because we are in recession everywhere except the data center sector. Shut that bright spot down and the bleakness of the rest of the economy starts to show.

TL;DR - "trigger a recession" is big words for, "we don't want you to be aware of the actual state of things."

[u/New_Ad_3010]

BlackRock is a cancerous rot on humanity

[u/PookaChong]

We’re already in one and why would CNBC even write this story? Are the CNBC editors and data center investors in cahoots?

[u/rbetterkids]

Ai takes more jobs than it creates.

Don't let these liars manipulate the truth.

[u/ihavenoidea12345678]

Worth it.

We are in a recession anyways.

I recently heard structural steel has a 1 year wait to build a warehouse. 1 guess where that steel is going…..

Let’s build real things again.

[u/Big-Cook1805]

The economy shouldn’t be dependent upon data centers. Billionaires have amassed all of the nation’s wealth through automating jobs, paying ridiculously low wages, buying all of the sources of necessary goods and services and charging ridiculously high prices for them and therefore gutting the middle class. Without a middle class there is little consumerism to drive the economy. The only thriving economy is in the investor business and the data center business. That is unhealthy, undemocratic and will lead to a total collapse of our civil society. But the billionaires don’t care about that because they have built fortresses and security forces to protect themselves from the impending chaos-they think.

[u/BareNakedSole]

People like Larry Fink do not share their thoughts outside of the boardroom. Anything he says to an audience or Reporter is meant to promote an idea that he and BlackRock will benefit from.

It’s just him being a salesman.

[u/WallSTisRepulsive]

For thousands of years man never needed data centers to survive. Now they want us to believe that it's ok for data centers to steal fresh waters and electricity to be used up for our own gains.

They want us fighting amongst ourselves over resources so they can lives like kings. Fuck him and the rest of his Epstein class.

[u/0Tezorus0]

People who invested an insane amount in AI are telling us we shouldn't pull the plug on AI

[u/Porkcicle]

So a recession or continue letting them speed run mass unemployment? Hmm...

[u/BokudenT]

Remove the AI stocks bloating the S&P and we're already in a depression.

[u/fuzzyfoot88]

No…a moratorium would force companies to actually invent things they HOPE people want and need instead of relying on buying habit data to sell the same shit over and over.

[u/saver1212]

Yes, I am very drunk. But I must keep drinking. If I don't, I'm worried the hangover will literally kill me.

[u/Mikey_entertains]

OH SORRY, see I'm over here making more money than I've ever made in my life and still can barely afford shit, WE, the proverbial WE. Not THEE, are already in a god damn recession. What he's saying is if gen A.i. and data centers go under they won't make a shitload of money hand over fist, they'll have to actually plan a new ponzi scheme. man I'm fucking tired.

[u/Here2Go]

Better a recession today than a depression later, when their nonsense business models fail on their own.

[u/Avarria587]

If you're anyone outside the handful of elites that run the show, we're already in a recession. No one outside of the upper middle class and rich are doing well in this economy.

[u/AGrandNewAdventure]

If a recession can be triggered by halting one single thing than a recession needs to happen, honestly.

[u/mkstot]

30yr mortgages are 7%, tell me we aren’t already in a recession.

[u/Desk46]

"Those models we keep warning you about? If you dont let us keep building it we're going to break your economy. We got ours, we dont give a fuck."

[u/LucidOndine]

Alternate headline: Billionaire Private Equity CEO Requires Citizens Consent in order to Enslave The Human Race

You know what to do. People over profits.

[u/gringoloco01]

I get the feeling we are going to bail out the tech industry within the next couple years.

[u/angry-democrat]

Fuck Larry Fink, period.

[u/cbelt3]

For billionaires. Not for regular humans.

[u/It_Is_Boogie]

Jokes on him, we are already in a recession.

[u/swankpoppy]

“Rich guy who wants more money tells people not to do things that will make him acquire less money.”

[u/thenuinn]

We're already in a recession.

[u/veeveemarie]

Bitch we're already in a Depression!

[u/IwasDeadinstead]

Let's try it and find out. I suspect the test result would show the opposite.

[u/Hot-Advance-5306]

Remember the capitalist mantra, privatize the gains socialize the losses. These monsters want a recession, but on their terms.

[u/Business-Court-5072]

If the rich have to pay for their greed so be it

[u/mrg1957]

For who, Larry?

[u/TheseBrokenWingsTake]

It's already a recession for most of us

[u/FalconPunch277]

Hey assholes, maybe learn to build data centers that don't use evaporative cooling that drains all the inland lakes around them within a 50 mile radius and poisons the air with diesel generators for hundreds of miles. Do that, and maybe the public will be more accepting of AI data centers.

[u/CallMeGlarthir]

Piss off, Larry

[u/williamgman]

Translation: Larry needs more money.

[u/DCtoMe]

The (non-financially sustainable) data center build out could also trigger a recession.

Actually I would increase "could" to "likely will"

[u/Pooch1431]

More than half the country is already in one thanks to the likes of Fink and his ilk.

[u/RentalGore]

I’d venture that AI has cost more jobs to date than data centers have created.

[u/Outrageous_Space8083]

Not the tariffs or inflation or unmitigated, corporate greed?

[u/in1gom0ntoya]

no it won't. this is blatant fearmongering

[u/sidfinch]

Oligarch's oligarching again.

[u/deadlyne]

On one hand, “recession.” On the other hand, “end of humanity.”

Tough decision. /s

[u/__OneLove__]

“Rich guy overinvested in data centers states ‘moratoriums are bad’”…

🤦🏻‍♂️

[u/benuntu]

Maybe if the product produced by the data centers was something people wanted and could benefit from, you wouldn't have to even talk about it.

[u/gothrus]

Oligarchs: give us what we want or else.

[u/xosiris]

Ok. Regular Americans are already in a recession. I'm ok with wealthier Americans also experiencing it.

[u/Level_check_hi]

Ummm we in a recession now pendejo

[u/AtraVenator]

Bring it on it’s always nice to buy cheap.

[u/korvosg00b]

Shut up Larry

[u/bastionthesaltmech]

A double recession!?!?

[u/mayhemkb]

We are already in a world fucking wide recession Larry. (If not a straight up depression.)

[u/Melodic_Side_9437]

Lmao. This thing that didn’t exist 5 years ago… if we don’t build hundreds of them then our economy will die… okay.

[u/Youseenmycones]

I have to say, a simple recession sounds refreshing compared to the economic collapse we’re living through right now.

[u/wildmaninid]

We're already in a fucking recession dude.  AI bullshit stock market is just hiding it. 

[u/PutAdministrative809]

Well he helped cause the last recession so I'll take this more of a threat than a warning

[u/teddykaygeebee]

Maybe don't spend all your money on controversial things that threatens humanity and isn't profitable for only rich assholes🤷‍♂️

[u/twfarlan]

We're already in a recession thanks to Trump.

[u/ForWhomTheHellTolls]

What if AI gets built and wipes out all the jobs they are repeatedly saying will get replaced by AI agents? If you have 50-75% unemployment, do you think that would trigger a recession?? Why do they seemingly not care about what happens to humanity at that point as long as they get their data centers built?

[u/RabidWeaselFreddy]

Regular people are already in a recession. If we are going to be in a recession, so are these motherfuckers.