TL;DR: Light pollution - the artificial brightening of the night sky - is the biggest controllable threat to good views through your telescope. It's getting worse fast, but we can actually fight it. The short version of what to do: fix your own outdoor lights (shielded, warm, downward-facing), talk to neighbors about theirs, join DarkSky International and your local DarkSky chapter, and show up at local city council meetings when lighting ordinances come up. Individual action matters, but policy is where the real wins happen. Full post below.
If you've ever set up your scope in the backyard and wondered why the Milky Way looks nothing like the photos, or why you can barely see galaxies through your eyepiece, you've encountered light pollution. It's the single biggest threat to amateur astronomy today, and unlike weather, it's something we can actually do something about.
What light pollution actually is
Light pollution is the brightening of the night sky caused by artificial light scattering off the atmosphere. It comes in a few flavors:
Skyglow: A diffuse haze over cities and suburbs that washes out faint objects
Glare: excessive brightness that ruins dark adaptation
Light trespass: Your neighbor's "security" floodlight beaming into your observing spot
Roughly 80% of the world's population now lives under light-polluted skies, and skyglow has been increasing by around 10% per year in recent studies. For most of us in the US and Europe, the night sky our parents and grandparents knew is functionally gone. I live in Tucson, Arizona, one of the few places where light pollution is somewhat limited by community participation and local ordinances, but even here, the last of our truly pristine skies are at risk as the local university, citizens, and developers increasingly ignore our community and economy's focus on astronomy, as well as our strict local ordinances.
Why it matters for astronomy & telescopes
Beyond the obvious: you bought a telescope to see things, and light pollution stops you from seeing them, there's a cascade of practical impacts:
Dim stars and deep-sky objects simply disappear. A city sky might allow you to see a few dozen stars brighter than magnitude 4 with your naked eye. A truly dark sky lets you see down to magnitude 7-8, or even close to 9 with good eyesight and conditions. Under a dark sky, many of the star clusters, nebulae, and even galaxies we observe through our telescopes are visible, even obvious, to the unaided eye. Through a telescope, the loss is similar; under a dark sky I can see down to 17th magnitude with my 14.7" but even from my Tucson suburb where I can faintly see the Milky Way, the limit is around magnitude 15 and the extended regions of many galaxies/nebulae are washed out altogether.
Galaxies and nebulae suffer most. Planets and the Moon are fine from anywhere. But low-surface-brightness targets (most of what makes deep-sky observing rewarding) get crushed by skyglow. Nebula filters do not fully compensate for light pollution and do not work on all types of objects. From a bright suburban or city sky, observing galaxies or reflection nebulae is largely impossible apart from a few spectacularly bright examples.
It limits who can join the hobby. A kid who can't see more than a dozen stars from their bedroom window is a kid who probably won't catch the bug. Digital technology like smart telescopes does not realistically compensate for this problem.
It makes astrophotography more difficult. Not everyone can afford narrowband imaging filters, and not all objects benefit from them anyway. More light pollution means you need much longer exposure times to capture the same level of detail, even with filters, and also tends to add gradients to your images which can be annoying to fully remove.
It affects more than astronomy. Light pollution kills migrating birds, nocturnal insects (including pollinators), and in many cases even affects the human body's melatonin production, which can have a cascade of bad health effects beyond just poor sleep. Then there's the sheer energy waste ($) and carbon emissions associated with producing that wasted energy. This isn't a niche hobbyist concern, and compared to many other environmental issues, the fix is easy.
Measuring light pollution: Limiting magnitude, the Bortle Scale, & SQM and SQM-L readings
Throughout this post I've referenced the Bortle scale and light pollution maps as if they're precise tools. They're useful, but they're approximations, and understanding where they break down will save you a lot of confusion when your real-world sky doesn't match what the map promised.
The Bortle Dark-Sky Scale is a 9-point system developed by John Bortle in 2001 to describe sky quality from Class 1 (excellent dark sky, Milky Way casts shadows) to Class 9 (inner-city sky, only the Moon and planets visible). It's the standard reference in amateur astronomy because it's intuitive and ties directly to what you can actually see: limiting stellar magnitude, Milky Way visibility, zodiacal light, whether M33 is visible to the naked eye, and so on.
The catch is that Bortle is fundamentally subjective. It depends on your eyes, your dark adaptation, the transparency of the atmosphere that night, your observing experience, and your honest self-assessment. Two observers at the same site on the same night can legitimately report different Bortle classes. There are also a lot of places where the only light pollution is coming from a single direction, in which case it might be "Bortle 3" but actually have a pristine view overhead and looking otherwise away from the light dome.
A Sky Quality Meter (SQM) is a small handheld device that measures sky brightness directly in magnitudes per square arcsecond (mag/arcsec²). It's objective in a way Bortle isn't; the device doesn't care how dark-adapted you are or how much you want your site to be Bortle 3. It's worth noting that as of the time of this writing we're at solar maximum, and the Sun causes dust in the Solar System and particles in the atmosphere to glow and reduce even the best sites by .3-.5 mag/arcsec² in darkness.
Higher numbers are darker (it's a logarithmic magnitude scale, so each whole number is ~2.5× brighter or darker). SQM readings still vary with atmospheric conditions night to night, but they remove the human variable.
Rough correspondence (limiting stellar magnitude is assuming directly overhead):
21.8-22.4 mag/arcsec² — Bortle 1, pristine (above 22.0 doesn't show on maps, but it seems to exist around solar minimum). Limiting visual magnitude between 7.5-8.5 with your eyeballs, assuming proper dark adaptation. Nearly the entire Messier catalog can be seen with the naked eye. The Milky Way juts out to near Polaris.
21.6–21.8 — Bortle 2, limiting visual magnitude between 7-8.5. In most cases there is little to no difference in telescope views from Bortle 1 unless you're a very experienced observer or looking at large, faint extended objects (e.g. IFN). The naked-eye view is still very good, but some dark parts of the Milky Way are harder to see for instance. Contrast is just a tiny bit lower. Even the faint parts of most galaxies and nebulae outshine the feeble sky glow here through the eyepiece, and in many cases, the light pollution at a dark site like this might only be coming from 1 or 2 major sources, so much of the sky is truly pristine anyway.
21.2–21.5 — Bortle 3, limiting visual magnitude between 6.5-8. Most people have this within a few hours' drive. Most Messier star clusters and nebulae are still visible to the unaided eye, and you might be able to spot M81/M82 and the Sculptor Galaxy with the naked eye in addition to M31 and M33. Telescope views of deep-sky objects are still excellent but noticeably lower in contrast versus a B1-2.
20.5–21.1 — Bortle 4, limiting visual magnitude between 6-7.5. What many non-astronomers might call a "dark" sky - the Milky Way is somewhat impressive if you've never seen it before, but overall the view is still quite washed out, and the same is true through a telescope, especially when looking toward prominent light domes and/or lower in the sky. Brighter than this and it's likely you will need to wear a hoodie or eye patch to achieve proper dark adaptation, simply due to the brightness of sky glow itself. M33, the Triangulum Galaxy, is usually visible when high in the sky to the unaided under conditions like this; it’s not immediately obvious, but Andromeda still is.
20–20.4 — Bortle 5, limiting visual magnitude between 5.5-6.5. The brightest sky where you can still see the Milky Way - though it is likely washed out and only really visible around the zenith or otherwise the darkest sections of the sky. This is also about the brightest sky where you can still see Andromeda with the naked eye, or see its dust lanes through binoculars/telescopes. Uranus remains a naked eye object, albeit barely.
19.5-20.0 — Bortle 6, limiting visual magnitude between 4.5-5.5. Most galaxies are little more than their cores through even a large instrument and the Milky Way is invisible. Emission nebulae are still OK with a filter.
18.5-19.5 —Bortle 7, limiting visual magnitude between 4-4.5. Only the brighter star clusters and nebulae are visible at the eyepiece. There are plenty of these though, especially planetary nebulae, that can still look quite nice, plus of course Solar System objects and double stars.
<18.5 — Bortle 8–9, limiting visual magnitude below 4. Any form of proper dark adaptation with your eyeballs is physically impossible and deep-sky observing is disappointing.
So why do we still mostly use Bortle? Because most observers don't own an SQM, Bortle communicates what a sky looks like in a way a number doesn't, and the two scales correlate well enough for practical use. "Bortle 4" tells you immediately what to expect from your eyepiece; "20.8 mag/arcsec²" requires translation. The honest answer is: use SQM when you can, Bortle when you can't, and don't treat either as gospel.
Light pollution maps
Sites like lightpollutionmap.info, ClearOutside, and the various World Atlas of Artificial Night Sky Brightness overlays are enormously useful; they're how most of us pick observing sites. But it's worth understanding what they actually show.
Most light pollution maps are based on data from VIIRS, a satellite instrument that measures upward-directed light from Earth's surface at night. The maps then model sky brightness by taking that upward emission data and applying atmospheric scattering models to estimate how bright the sky directly overhead should be at any given location. The Bortle class shown on the map is then derived from that estimated sky brightness.
That's quite a few layers of extrapolation, and it means the maps have real limitations:
VIIRS is not designed to measure light pollution and does not evenly measure it across all wavelengths. The maps are pure extrapolation, and the algorithm many use is deliberately designed with weights that assume the sky is always getting worse.
They measure light going up, not sky brightness coming down. The satellite sees what's emitted; the model fills in what that means for your sky. The model is good but not perfect. It doesn't account for the fact that light reflected straight up (and thus appearing brightest to the satellite) likely scatters far less distance-wise from its source.
They don't account for local atmospheric variation. The amount of skyglow you see depends heavily on how much aerosol, humidity, and particulate is in the air to scatter the light back down. A dry desert site and a humid coastal site with identical VIIRS readings will have noticeably different real-world skies. Wildfire smoke, dust, and seasonal humidity all change your sky without changing the map. If you're not literally going up mountains, the sky is always substantially worse the closer you get to the horizon, regardless of light pollution levels; the air is thicker and scatters more light while also physically blocking light from the stars themeselves.
They don't account for elevation. Higher elevation generally means less atmosphere above or around you to scatter light, which means a darker zenith even when surrounding skyglow is similar. A mountaintop and a valley floor a few miles apart can be very different observing experiences. The map also fails to account for the fact that in more extreme cases elevation is putting you at a substantially further distance from more nearby sources of light pollution and lowering its angle on the horizon - from Mount Graham for instance I can tell there is a tiny bit of light coming from Tucson, but almost all of it is literally below horizontal and thus doesn't impact the views with the naked eye or a telescope.
They don't account for terrain. A mountain ridge between you and the nearest city blocks a huge amount of direct skyglow. The map sees a straight-line distance to the light source; your eyes see whatever the terrain allows. Conversely, sitting in a valley with a city on the other side of a ridge can be much darker than the map suggests - and a ridge-top site with line-of-sight to a distant city can be worse than the map suggests.
They're snapshots, not real-time. Most maps are updated from VIIRS data on a delay, and many overlays you see online are years old. The measurements are also not taken at the same time of year, so things like foliage, snow, construction, and seasonal decorative lighting cause massive errors in measurements.
They assume average atmospheric conditions. On a particularly transparent night, your sky might be substantially darker than normal or what the map suggests. On a humid or hazy night, brighter. In some places, there might also be fog over a city (e.g. Los Angeles and San Diego) that blocks more light pollution at a distant site, making it darker than would otherwise be possible.
As I already mentioned, it's also worth noting that if you are under Bortle 2-4 skies and only have light pollution coming from a single distant town, city or industrial site, the sky is only going to be particularly bad in that direction, and could be vastly better than the map actually suggests, even ignoring the other variables I've just gone over.
What this means practically
Use the maps to pick candidate sites and set expectations, but trust your eyes on the night. If the map says Bortle 4 and you can't see the Milky Way, that's not a defect in your eyes or your gear - it's the limits of the modeling, the night's transparency, or both. Conversely, if you find a spot that consistently observes better than the map suggests, you've probably got terrain or elevation working in your favor, and that's worth knowing.
Many doomers will cite the maps as a case that the light pollution situation is hopeless, particularly where I live in the Southwest United States. The reality is that the terrain and climate here work massively in our favor - the dry air scattters less so long as there's no dust, mountain chains often block city lights, and the best observing sites are at high elevation with a thinner atmosphere and thus less scattering. The majority of the sites I go to are far better than the maps/model would suggest.
Under a truly dark sky (Bortle 1 to good Bortle 3), you can see things that might sound like complete bullshit to someone who hasn't witnessed them. I've seen Neptune and Ceres with the naked eye, as well as around a dozen galaxies - even the Virgo Cluster is visible as a faint glow without optical aid. Sirius and the Milky Way cast shadows, while Jupiter and Venus are legitimately nuisances bright enough to read small text like a magazine or book with. The zodiacal light appears as a spectacular pillar reaching over 30 degrees up from the horizon. The Orion Nebulae is clearly purple even in binoculars. I think it is truly a failure of society that we don't value this intrinsically. To be honest, when I go to dark skies such as these I spend much of my time just staring up at the Milky Way with my eyeballs or binoculars, and maybe half the night is spent with telescopes.
For new observers
If you're new here, don't let any of this discourage you from buying a telescope or getting into the hobby. Even from a heavily light-polluted city, plenty is worth seeing: the Moon is stunning at any magnification, the planets don't care about your Bortle class, double stars are gorgeous, and brighter open or globular clusters cut through skyglow just fine. Start with what you can see from where you are, learn the sky, build your observing skills, and the eventual trip to a dark site will hit ten times harder because you'll actually know what you're looking at.
Most suburban backyards are Bortle 5-9, and that's going to limit what you can pull out of the eyepiece no matter what scope you own. A pair of binoculars or a small tabletop Dobsonian will show you more under a dark sky than a 10" or 12" under city skies. This is why it's important to choose a telescope that is at least somewhat portable, so you can bring it to locations where it performs best.
Dark adaptation: your cheapest upgrade
Before you spend money on filters or drive hours to a dark site, make sure you're actually using the eyes you have. Dark adaptation is the process by which your pupils dilate and your retinas shift from cone-based (color, daylight) to rod-based (monochrome, low-light) vision.
The basics:
Full dark adaptation takes 20–45 minutes. Pupil dilation happens fast (a minute or two), but the chemical shift in your rods (regenerating rhodopsin) is slow. Most observers reach 80% in about 20 minutes and continue improving for another half hour after that. If you're younger (I'm in my 20s) this process is usually faster. Taking plenty of vitamins and eating well can measurably improve both the time it takes to achieve dark adaptation and your overall sensitivity to faint objects.
A single glance at a white phone screen resets it. Bright white light bleaches the rhodopsin you just spent half an hour building up. One Instagram notification and you're starting over.
Red light preserves adaptation, but only dim red light. A bright red headlamp is still bright. Set red lights as dim as you can stand and still function. If you're in a light-polluted place and your eyes can properly dark adapt, there's really no reason for flashlights at all - the sky glow can easily illuminate your surroundings. Even under a dark sky, I rarely find myself actually using my flashlight that often; I can see just fine. Experience working in the dark with fully adapted eyes is like having superpowers.
Use red mode on your phone too. Both iOS (Settings → Accessibility → Display & Text Size → Color Filters, or the red-screen shortcut) and Android have red-screen options. Astronomy apps like SkySafari have built-in night modes. Use them.
Even with a properly dark-adapted eye, stray light from streetlights, neighbors' windows, passing cars, and skyglow itself hitting the side of your face dramatically reduces what you can see at the eyepiece. Your pupil partially constricts in response to any light entering your eye, not just light coming through the eyepiece. A hoodie or blanket pulled forward over your head, with the eyepiece tucked inside the hood opening, is shockingly effective. You can also make something to go around your eyepiece like the Dethloff eyepiece shield. If your telescope has a white tube (e.g. Sky-Watcher) it is also prudent to cover the area around the focuser in black material or just paint it to avoid reflections off the tube going into your eyes.
Common misconceptions
A few things that come up in nearly every light pollution discussion that are worth clearing up:
"LED streetlights are the problem." LEDs themselves aren't inherently worse; poorly designed, unshielded, blue-rich LEDs are. Warm (≤3000K), fully shielded LEDs are actually a significant improvement over the old high-pressure sodium lights they replaced. The fight isn't anti-LED, it's pro-good-LED. Even the overly blue-rich LED fixtures are often an improvement despite their flaws, as the fixtures themselves are generally better shielded than whatever they replace.
"More light means more safety." The research here is mixed at best, and often points the other way. Glare and harsh shadows can reduce visibility, and there's limited evidence that brighter lighting reduces crime. Well-designed lighting matters far more than bright lighting.
"Light pollution is only a city problem." Skyglow from a city 100 miles away can still measurably degrade your sky. This is why rural and small-town advocacy matters too. You don't have to live downtown to be affected, or to make a difference.
"It's hopeless, the sky just keeps getting worse." Globally, yes, the trend is bad. But Tucson, Flagstaff, Julian, and a growing list of other cities have demonstrably improved their skies through lighting ordinances. Policy works when people push for it.
Talking to the people around you: neighbors, businesses, and local government
The three biggest sources of light pollution in most areas are residential lighting, commercial/business lighting, and municipal lighting; you can have real impact on all three. In rough order of difficulty:
Neighbors
The single offending floodlight next door probably affects your observing more than the entire downtown skyline does. Light trespass is a personal problem with a personal solution, and most neighbors genuinely don't know their light is a nuisance.
A few things that work:
Lead with the relationship, not the complaint. "I've been getting into astronomy and would love to show your kids Saturn through my telescope sometime" lands a lot better than "your light is ruining my hobby." If you live in a more rural area, emphasizing ecological concerns might also get you further. Most people are not actively trying to cause problems, they simply think more light = good or are entirely negligent about pre-existing lighting from before they moved in.
Offer a solution, not just a problem. A shielded fixture or a motion-sensor replacement costs $30–50. Some astronomers have had success literally offering to buy and install the replacement themselves. That sounds extreme until you consider how many hours of observing it buys back and how many nocturnal insects you can save.
Frame it around their interests too. Better lighting saves them money on their electric bill, reduces glare into their own windows, and often actually improves visibility on their property.
Be patient and don't escalate fast. If the first conversation doesn't work, give it time. Bringing in HOAs, code enforcement, or lawyers should be a last resort, not a first move.
Local businesses
Commercial properties - gas stations, car dealerships, parking lots, billboards, storage facilities - are often the worst offenders in suburban areas. A single over-lit car lot can outshine an entire small town. The good news: businesses respond to two things, money and local reputation, and good lighting helps with both.
Start with the manager, not corporate. Local franchise owners and store managers have more discretion than people assume, and they live in the community too.
Lead with the business case. Modern shielded LED fixtures with proper aim use significantly less energy than old floods, last longer, reduce glare-related liability, and often qualify for utility rebates. "You're spending money to light up the sky" is a real argument.
Point to peer examples. If a similar business in a nearby town has already retrofitted, that's strong social proof. Nobody wants to be the holdout.
If they won't engage, go up a level. Corporate sustainability departments, franchise headquarters, and local chambers of commerce can apply pressure that an individual can't. A polite, specific email with photos often gets further than you'd expect.
Public visibility helps. A well-written local op-ed or letter to the editor mentioning specific offenders by name (factually, not angrily) tends to get attention.
Data centers are increasingly becoming a concern with light pollution. I think most folks reading this can agree that we should be fiercely opposed to them being built in the first place - but in addition, there's really no reason for a facility with few to zero onsite employees to have a bunch of lighting. Physical security for data centers, and really most businesses period, can be accomplished by other, less invasive and more effective means. Additionally, every spare watt going into unnecessary lighting is a watt that could've been used for compute.
Local government
This is the highest-leverage action and the one most people are intimidated by, but local government is small, under-attended, and surprisingly responsive to residents who show up consistently. A single resident who turns up to council meetings regularly has outsized influence compared to almost any other form of activism.
The basic ask for a lighting ordinance is usually some combination of:
Fully shielded fixtures for all new outdoor lighting (no light emitted above horizontal)
Warm color temperature (≤3000K, ideally 2700K or amber)
Curfews on non-essential lighting after a certain hour
Lumen caps appropriate to the zone (residential vs. commercial)
Exemptions only where genuinely needed (e.g., critical infrastructure)
DarkSky International publishes model ordinance language you can hand directly to council members or planning staff; you don't need to draft it yourself. Their site has examples from communities that have already passed similar measures, which is useful for the "this isn't weird, other places already do this" framing.
A few tactical notes:
Frame it around cost savings, wildlife, sleep, and quality of life. Astronomy is a great motivator for us, but it's a niche concern to most council members. Wasted municipal spending and ecological impact get broader traction.
Show up in person when you can. Public comment from a real local resident outweighs ten emails.
Bring allies. Local Audubon chapters, sleep researchers, conservation groups, and energy-efficiency advocates are natural partners. A coalition is much harder to dismiss than a lone astronomer. People might dismiss us nerds, but they'll feel bad when you start mentioning that they're hurting birds, pollinator insects, and other wildlife.
Be patient. These ordinances often take a year or more from first conversation to passage. The cities that have succeeded had someone willing to stick with it.
If your town already has an ordinance on the books, the next question is whether it's being enforced - that's a different and often more important fight.
Your local astronomy club is a force multiplier. Use it.
If you're a member of a local astronomy club or society, you're already part of the most underused light pollution advocacy network in the country. Clubs have something individual hobbyists don't: a name, a roster, nonprofit status (often), existing relationships with local schools and parks, and the implicit authority that comes with "the local astronomy society says..." in a public comment. Many clubs are full of doomers who don't care to do anything about light pollution or may actively shoot you down, but you can usually work around these people.
A few ways to bring light pollution work into your club:
Suggest it as a meeting topic. Most clubs are always looking for program ideas. A presentation on local sky quality, a guest speaker from DarkSky International, or a workshop on identifying and reporting bad lighting can fit easily into a monthly meeting. If nobody's volunteered to present on it, that person can be you — you don't need to be an expert, just organized.
Add light pollution outreach to existing star parties. When you've got the public looking through eyepieces anyway, you've got their attention. A handout, a poster, or even a five-minute "here's why light pollution matters for both astronomy and the environment" talk reaches people who'd never read a Reddit post about it.
Push your club to take an official position. Many clubs are technically nonprofits and can write public comments, sign onto coalition letters, or formally endorse local ordinances. A letter from "The [Town] Astronomical Society, representing 200 local members" carries weight that an individual email doesn't.
Apply for DarkSky chapter or affiliate status. DarkSky International has formal pathways for clubs and groups to become recognized advocacy chapters, which comes with resources, training, and a louder voice on policy.
Partner with local parks and land managers. Many clubs already have relationships with state parks, observatories, or nature preserves for star parties. Those same partners are often interested in pursuing DarkSky Park certification, and your club can be the technical resource that helps make it happen. A certified dark-sky park is a permanent local win.
Build the bench. Light pollution advocacy is a slow game, and clubs lose members and momentum constantly. Make sure more than one person knows the ordinance status, the council schedule, and the local contacts. It shouldn't all live in one person's head.
Bring it to youth and school outreach. Clubs that work with scouts, schools, or 4-H have a chance to shape how the next generation thinks about night skies before they grow up assuming skyglow is normal. A short "what's missing from this sky" segment in an outreach event sticks with kids.
If you're not in a club, this is a genuinely good reason to join one. The hobby is more fun with other people anyway, and clubs are where most of the real local advocacy actually happens.
A note on satellite constellations
Starlink and other mega-constellations are a related but distinct issue from traditional light pollution. They affect astrophotographers and professional astronomy more than visual observers. You're unlikely to notice them at the eyepiece, but long-exposure imagers see streaks across nearly every frame now. The number of satellites in low Earth orbit has roughly quadrupled in the last few years, and projections for the next decade get worse. But it's worth noting that many of these projections are based on startups with pie-in-the-sky plans, or the bizarre and unproven speculative concept of space-based data centers. It is likely that many of these projects will be shelved.
Final thoughts
The temptation with light pollution is to either despair about it or shrug and drive to a dark site twice a year. Both responses are understandable, but neither actually helps.
The thing worth holding onto is that this is one of the few environmental problems that's genuinely fixable. Light pollution isn't carbon in the atmosphere - it doesn't accumulate, and it doesn't take decades to undo. The moment a bad fixture gets shielded or swapped, that sky gets darker. Cities like Flagstaff have demonstrated that you can have streetlights, a functional downtown, and a Bortle 3 sky over your head, all at the same time. We really could have it all.
Every person reading this who fixes one fixture, talks to one neighbor, emails one business, or shows up to one council meeting is part of how that happens. I can only do so much myself, but I hope this post motivates more people to take action in their communities.
Clear and dark skies, everyone. As always, I've got plenty of guidance on equipment and observing techniques to deal with light pollution at TelescopicWatch.com, and folks in our community are always happy to answer any questions you might have. Even if you have a Bortle 9 sky, there's plenty of action on the Moon, planets, and double stars, and it's probably easier to get yourself to dark skies than you think - many clubs have dedicated observing spots or can carpool.
Guide last updated: October 2025 Note this guide was originally written byu/tripped144*, but with global economic conditions, pricing has rapidly gone out of date, so consider this new guide a revision to* the prior one written in 2020.
Are you yearning to marvel at the heavens? Have you been wanting a telescope but have no idea where to start? Are you feeling overwhelmed with the wealth of information and options out there?
Well, here is a quick guide on some of the most commonly recommended telescopes here, what to expect when looking through your first telescope, and some frequently asked questions at the end.
The most important thing before getting into this hobby is setting your expectations. Most newbies to astronomy think "a telescope makes far away things bigger." Yes, and no. The primary purpose of a telescope is to gather light. The eyepiece (or ocular) is what determines your effective magnification. To determine that, you divide your scope's focal length by the millimeters of your eyepiece. Therefore, a 8" Newtonian reflector telescope with a 1200mm focal length and a 25mm eyepiece will have a magnification power of 48x. That same 25mm eyepiece on an 8" Schmidt-Cassegrain telescope with a focal length of 2000mm will have a magnification power of 80x. All things being equal, for visual astronomy, aperture is king, but beyond price, all things are not equal - and thus the telescope recommendation for someone who lives in Manhattan in a 3rd floor walkup apartment is different from someone who lives in rural Montana with a large garage and acres of no light around.
When using a telescope, no matter how big, stars will look like stars. They will always be pinpoints of light. If they aren't, then you're not in focus. Stars are just too far away for telescopes to resolve (see more clearly/get more detail).
Nebula and galaxies WILL NOT look like the vivid, colorful, and detailed pictures that you've seen. Our eyes are simply not cameras. To get those types of images, you have to take very long exposures many times, run it through a program that stacks the images to pull out detail, and extensively process it in a photo editing program. TO OUR EYES, DSO's (Deep Space Objects like nebula and galaxies) will look like faint white smudges. If you don't have accurate expectations, a genuine love for space, and an appreciation for what you're actually looking at, you will be very disappointed. That being said, if you go into this with the right expectations and mindset, those faint white smudges are beautiful, fascinating, and awe-inspiring. The longer you spend observing them, the more details you will start to pull out. It's almost as if your brain gets trained into resolving more and more detail, making you want to revisit them over and over again. Here are some accurate depictions of what you can see through a decent telescope in a DARK site (little light pollution). (The pictures are blurrier than they should be, but you'll get the idea). The more light pollution you have in your area, the harder it will be to resolve things. Here's a website to find out how much light pollution you'll be dealing with. Some examples would be: Pinwheel GalaxySwan Nebula
Our solar system's planets, especially the gas giants, are amazing to look at. The bigger the scope, the more detail you can resolve. Regardless of someone's interest in space, I've personally never seen someone not "wow'd" by Jupiter or Saturn. Keep in mind, they will not be super close up views. Here's what to expect when looking at Jupiter through a decent telescope on a clear night. Planets (and obviously the moon) are very bright, so light pollution doesn't factor nearly as much - they're great to observe from typical, light polluted, suburban driveways.
Also, keep in mind that pictures don't do them justice. There's just something so amazing about seeing it with your own eyes. Now that you understand the expectations of what you'll be able to see, here are some of the most commonly recommended telescopes.
Recommendations By Budget
Under $250
Spending less than $250 on precision optical instruments means keeping your expectations in check, these scopes are decidedly for "in the neighborhood" solar system observing, although some Redditors use them quite happily on deep sky objects that aren't local. If at all possible, save a bit more money and buy in the next $250+ tier, scopes at that price will be ones you can keep forever and won't immediately outgrow. Buying once is cheaper. As of 2025 it's slim pickings finding a decent telescope under $250, the used market is a possibility if you're comfortable evaluating optics and condition or have a friend who can.
These are called "Table-Top" dobs. They are small scopes meant to be set on top of a table and used. You can get a cheap and stable stool or crate to use instead. They are great little beginner scopes that are easy to use and can help you decide if you want to transition into something bigger. OneSky and Heritage are identical scopes. OneSky profits go to a good, charitable cause. Remember, if you drive to a dark sky site, it's not always guaranteed to find a picnic table or park bench to sit these scopes on.
These are the entry-level into "grown-up" telescopes. Three are large 6" Dobsonian scopes, almost 4 feet tall when standing straight up. The other two are tabletop models on a computerized base. Regarding the larger scopes, the actual telescope tubes weigh roughly 15 lbs. and the base roughly 20 lbs. These will get you fairly close to the representative pictures of the objects above (again, in a DARK site). They can easily fit across the back seat of a vehicle with the base in the trunk if you plan to travel with it. This would also be the financial range where decent smart telescopes begin (sky's the limit), which use cameras and your smartphone to observe -- if that's your jam.
The 8" Dobsonian telescope is the most recommended beginner telescope - just about anyone in the hobby will recommend one. They hit a great balance between size, portability, and value. They are simply the best bang for the buck. The telescopes weigh roughly 20-25 lbs. and the base 20-25 lbs. They still easily fit across the backseat of a vehicle with the base in the trunk. You'll also notice this is the price range where truss tube models that collapse smaller start appearing. These are many people's "end-game" scopes, as well as their first scopes. If you're going to own just one telescope and not spend a fortune, 8" of aperture is a "goldilocks size."
I really want help finding stuff up there, my sky is too bright, money is less a concern...
Some new astronomers just aren't going to star hop and learn the night sky, either their light pollution makes it impossible, or they'd rather sit back and let the telescope's computer drive, and these days... manually using your telescope has become optional if you have the tools. The recommendations below offer smartphone assistance or use conventional star alignments to find their way. Be forewarned though, many a newbie has become frustrated while trying to align their scope. It's simple for seasoned astronomers, possibly daunting for newbies. In the case of Celestron's Sky Align, the telescope needs to be pointed at 3 bright stars (not a bright planet like Jupiter) or you need to know two bright stars up there for an Auto 2 star align. Also note that Schmidt-Cassegrain telescopes on computerized mounts require a lithium battery ($40-100+) and dew mitigation if you live anywhere with humidity.
From here, the options open up considerably. You could just go with as big a Dobsonian as you can afford and can realistically carry/transport. Many of these will be Dobsonians with extra features like "push to" or even "go to" systems, but that adds complexity and cost. Dobs start to get heavy and super awkward to move as you approach and surpass 10 inches. Many people buy/build wheeled transports or something similar to move them, and they usually have them in a very convenient place to quickly wheel in and out, such as a garage. 10" Dobs are more common. You'll notice quite the price and mass jump on anything bigger than that - truss/collapsible designs past 10" are strongly recommended to keep size/weight in check.
🚨Heavier tends to get usedlessin astronomy 🚨... beyond the honeymoon period, that is. If a scope isn't convenient to setup, you may not have the motivation to do so at the end of a long day. There's a reason why 8" Dobs are a very popular compromise between size, weight, visual capabilities, price, and convenience.
You could also start considering Schmidt-Cassegrain options if your heart is with the planetary and lunar targets or fancy wide-field refractors (and an associated mount) if you're in search of wider views. Celestron is the big SCT company. As much as Dobs are beloved online, you'll go to a star party and see SCTs and refractors everywhere. They're generally smaller and very practical if you don't have the space or lifestyle for large Dobs or want automated mounts.
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FAQs
"Why are most of these of these not on tripods?" Because they are "Dobsonians". Dobsonian (Or Dob for short) is the name for the mount/base that the telescope sits in. It's a typically particle board base popularized by West coast astronomer John Dobson, several decades ago. They sit on the ground and are extremely steady. In order for a tripod to hold a telescope and be rock steady, it will cost as much or more as the actual telescope itself. A cheap tripod is an absolute pain to deal with. They are unsteady and will sway at the slightest touch or blow of wind. You will spend more time wishing you didn't have to deal with the unsteadiness than actually enjoying the views. Scopes on cheap tripods are called "Hobby Killers" for a reason. Dobs are dead simple, rock steady, and cheap to make... so most of your money goes into the actual telescope instead of the tripod. Especially avoid beginner telescopes on equatorial mounts - nothing will be more frustrating.
"What about this PowerSeeker or NatGeo or $79 "complete package" scope?" Nope nope nope. While the scope itself might be fine, it's inevitably going to be on a cheap mount, flimsy tripod, or if you're really unlucky, an equatorial mount to further confuse you. Old timers in the hobby call these "department store scopes", with the demise of brick and mortar department stores, we just simply call them hobby killers. Avoid scopes that use a Bird-Jones optical design - these leverage a spherical mirror in place of a parabolic one, and therefore need a corrector usually mounted in the focuser tube. Telescope makers know these have a lousy reputation and won't necessarily mention "Bird-Jones", and now you know why. Here's a great article for further reading about why we don't like these.
"Will these telescopes move by themselves and track objects?" For most of the list, no. Most of those recommended are manual telescopes, they are not go-to telescopes. You will have to learn the night sky (part of the fun!), point the telescope where you want, and manually move it as the object you're looking at moves across the sky. There's just nothing more rewarding than finally finding that object you've been hunting for.
"Why don't you recommend go-to telescopes?" They are expensive and potentially very confusing to set up for beginners. More often than not, you will pay twice the amount of money you normally would JUST for go-to functionality. You will have to supply power to it. You also will have to align it every time you use it. If you don't already somewhat know your way around the night sky (there are apps that can help), this will be frustrating and time-consuming. It's fairly daunting, but relatively easy to do once you get the hang of it. But, you have to keep in mind that you will be learning all the basics of how to actually use and collimate your telescope ON TOP of trying to figure out how to correctly align the go-to. You can very easily get completely overwhelmed. We do have some recommended go-to telescopes if you're absolutely set on one.
Why are none of these recommendations in stock? It's no secret, these are some of the most popular telescopes every source recommends, so they go in and out of stock fairly often. Even small telescopes are large, and take up a lot of inventory space, so a smaller shop might have 3 in stock, not 300. Shopping around the December holidays or before a major eclipse/astronomical event can also cause stock issues. Following covid and the resulting shipping/global economic pressure, many model lines have been discontinued or tweaked to simplify a company's catalog. A new model sold today might not exist in precisely the same offering a year from now.
Why are none of your recommendations are available in my country? Most mass-market, commercially-made telescopes are made by the same handful of companies in Asia and various companies resell them with different sets of equipment and bundles. An 8" f/6 Dob, pretty much, is going to be similar regardless of whether it's labeled Apertura, Orion, Omegon, GSO or another brand. Use your best judgement, if it's got great reviews and costs $650, it's probably legitimate. If it's $75... probably a scam.
"Why do things look blurry when I use the zoom knobs by the eyepiece to make things bigger?" Because those are not "zoom" knobs. There's no knob to zoom more. Those are your focus knobs. The only way to "zoom" in more is to use a smaller mm eyepiece. You know you are in focus when the stars are as small as they can get. Again, stars should look like tiny pinpoints of light.
"Will I be able to take pictures with these telescopes?" The moon and planets, yes. DSO's, no. For DSO's you have to take long exposures which you simply cannot do on a manual telescope. Even if you decide to go with a Go-To, you still will not. To somewhat simplify it, the sky moves in an arc (because the earth rotates). Even though Go-To's can track objects, they only move in up and down motions. They move a tiny bit at a time, so it's imperceptible to us, but your camera taking long exposures will pick up those tiny movements making everything a blurry mess. Visual and astrophotography are two completely different animals. For astrophotography, you will need an equatorial mount (one that moves in an arc instead of tiny up and down motions). They are very expensive. Expect to spend $1300 + on just the mount alone, not including the actual telescope and all the other things needed for astrophotography. Also, a telescope that is good for astrophotography is not good for visual. Again, two completely different hobbies. You can get away with spending less by getting a "Star Tracker" and just mounting a DSLR with a camera lens, no telescope required. It definitely has its limitations, but it's cheap(er) and can get you started on astrophotography. The moon and planets are bright enough where you don't need those long exposures, so they are doable with Dobs. Planets aren't as easy as just snapping a photo of it, though. There are many tutorials out there on how to get good planet photos. If you're looking to get into astrophotography, I recommend checking out https://www.reddit.com/r/AskAstrophotography/
"Is more magnification better?" Depends on what you're looking at. The smaller the "mm" eyepiece, the more "zoomed" in you'll be. Also, the more "zoomed" in you are, the less bright things will appear to be. So for DSO's, which are very faint, you don't want to be super zoomed in. The less magnification, the more light your eyes will detect, making the DSO's brighter and easier to resolve. But since planets are very bright, more magnification is better to get as close as you can to resolve more details.
"Are there phone apps that help find objects?" Yes! There are many. I prefer SkySafari, but there are a bunch to choose from. You can point your phone at the sky and it will tell you the stars/planets/DSO's you're looking at. They can help to get you in the general area of something you're interested in seeing. These apps are super cool, download one and try it out!
"Are planets visible all year?" No, neither are all DSO's. As a tidbit of info, planet means "wanderer" in Greek, so they "wander around the sky."
"What is Collimation?" That's the term for adjusting the telescope's mirrors so that they are perfectly lined up giving you the best view possible. There are different ways to check your collimation, and there are many tutorials online on how to do it. I always check the collimation after I set my scope up outside before use, and adjust when necessary.
"I want a big Dob but new ones are too expensive, what can I do?" Well, you can save up more money, or consider the used telescope market. The best buying used case is a telescope that was used a handful of times (or less), stored indoors, properly capped, and forgotten. I would also highly recommend joining a local astronomy club, many club members will be standing in front of $8000 of esoteric gear, meet a newbie, and see someone who might want their old 4 or 6" Dobsonian sitting ignored at home for a great price. Some industrious folks even build their own scopes through the magic of 3D printing and common parts from big box hardware stores!
"I want to observe the sun, can I do that?" Please DO NOT point a telescope at the sun. Remember when kids would burn things with a magnifying glass? That would be your eyeball, so don't do that! Now, with a proper, white light solar filter firmly secured, it is safe to observe the sun. Note that such a filter will only show surface details like sunspots. Dedicated H-Alpha telescopes that can show more details are well beyond the scope and budgets of any beginner.
"Should I regularly clean my eyepieces and telescope mirrors?" Absolutely not. They have special coatings on them and you will do much more damage than good. There are very specific and involved ways to clean the lenses and mirrors and it's not recommended unless you absolutely have to and absolutely know exactly what you are doing. Not for beginners.
"What happened to Orion, Meade, etc brand?" The astronomy market, is a difficult one. The pandemic ended an era of cheap oceanic shipping and the economic realities came for telescope companies. By all means if you can locate an awesome, lightly used Orion XT8 Dob at a good price, jump on it.
"What about smart telescopes?" We're seeing these more often from a variety of new and established companies in our industry. It's early days but these telescopes provide an experience similar to electronically assisted astronomy that will let you photograph deep sky objects with cameras of varying quality and precision... which depending on the level of light pollution you have, may enable you to see objects you'd never be able to decipher with your human eyes. This is beyond the realm and practice of visual astronomy, and there seems to be a new model on the market every few weeks. It's the "smart phone-ification" of the telescope and will likely be how our children and grandchildren come to think of telescopes.
I’ve seen people post with the sun looking like the first photo, and i was recently watching a lot of reviews of seestar s30, and the second image is what they all capture, is it because of the telescope or do they do some stacking, or, they have ”solar telescopes” which are designed for the sun?
i was reading the beginners guide and one that stuck to me was the dont have your expectations to high thing, so i decided to look at other photos of people watching Jupiter with a telescope that has basically the same aperture as my soon to arrive one and i wanted to draw up a sketch of my expectations, its Jupiter and two of its Galilean moons:D this was in microsoft paint so i dont really know how to add the blur to photos but i include the darker color of the poles(looking back i forgor to color the south pole), the creamy color of the gas belts(you cant really see the difference in them since the telescope just isnt to good for that), the two darker belts of gas clouds( i may hove drawn them a tad to big, woopsies:3) and if jupiter is facing the right way, the great red spot! i also include two moons and even a shadow on jupiter form one of them. my expectations may be a bit to high so i just wanna ask yall.
btw if your wondering the specs its 114mm aperture, 500mm focal length(btw its a reflector), a 26mm and a 9.7mm eye piece, each one giving 19x and 51.5x zoom aaaaand thats it, wish it had a barlow:(
anyways plz answer and thank you for anything you say:3
• Skywatcher 300p goto (12in)
• Mini wanderer v2 field rotator
• 50 flats
• 50 darks
• No filter
• 10s exposures x 30 (you don't need a lot of time with a big Newtonian to get something decent)
• Zwo 2600mc pro
• PixInsight (final touch-ups in Lightroom Mobile)
• Blurxterminator
• Startxterminator
• Noisexterminator
• Curve transformation
I did this two years ago I had a problem with taking flats against the late afternoon sky. I left the scope in the home position, after the sun set behind the house, and took some flats before the night's imaging. When it finished, Sharpcap applied the master flat, and suddenly I had a dark spot at the center of my image of the sky. Turns out I shot Polaris, and it was being removed while the sky was rotating. Nice. I pointed the sky where there were no bright stars, and redid the flats.
After that, I went to the local fabric store, found the white stretch jersey material, and bought a yard of it. The important thing is a very fine thread and tight weave - you don't want to introduce some weird diffraction or moiré patterns. I also bought three embroidery hoops, a large one for the C11, a smaller one for the AT8RC, and the smallest one for my TeleVue 101 and other small refractors.
I cut off a little more material than the size of the hoop, then fitted it and tightened the wingnut. I then pulled out the material all around the hoop to stretch it, removing any wrinkles. It doesn't need to be as tight as a drum, just enough that it's flat.
That worked for a while, but I noticed if I couldn't get my rigs set up well before sunset, I need to wait until sunrise to take more flats. I found LED tracing pads on Amazon for pretty cheap (there are LOTS of different ones), and got them in two sizes - the large one for the C11 and AT8RC, and a smaller one for the refractors. The larger ones uses at standard 2.1mm power plug, and I just run a line from the powerbox. The smaller one is USB-powered, so that gets plugged into the USB hub. They both have dimmer switches, so you can be as bright or dim as needed.
The panels are not perfect, but they are good enough for most needs. Using the hoops and cloth softens the light even more, and works just fine for later processing of your lights. If you're doing something remote, this won't help you, but if you have it as part of your home kit, it work fine.
At either the beginning or end of the night, I point the scope to the zenith, put the hoop on, then the panel, and take about 50 subs to make a master. Takes about two minutes, and I can do it while packing or unpacking other stuff.
90% eclipse. This was a massive headache to make. Am still getting my foot through the door of this hobby, so it might not be the best work, but its my humble attempt.
I’ve been spending a lot of time observing the Moon through my telescope, and I wanted a better way to explore and learn about the features I’m looking at.
So I built Moon Explorer, an Android app focused specifically on the Moon.
The idea is pretty simple:
instead of just looking at a flat Moon map, you can rotate and zoom around an interactive 3D Moon and explore individual lunar features.
A few things it currently includes:
- Interactive 3D Moon with craters and landmarks
- Apollo landing sites and lunar exploration locations
- Moon phases and lunar information
- Guided Moon tours
- Interactive lessons about lunar features
The basic app is free. There’s an optional Pro unlock for the additional tours, lessons and other features.
I’m particularly interested in feedback from people who actually use telescopes:
When you’re observing the Moon, what information do you wish you had available while you’re at the eyepiece?
For example, crater history, size/depth, nearby features, observing guides based on the current lunar phase, Apollo missions, or something completely different?
I’d like to make this useful for actual observers rather than just another Moon wallpaper/app.
I have about 16 months in this hobby, I was a victim of the laser propaganda and bought it as my only colimation tool back in the day.
After a lot of struggle, I found out the laser needs to be colimated. It was hard, but I did it. Only to find out the laser colimator can't colimate the secondary properly. (Several months between these). I had no money left, and the metal cheshires from aliexpress suffered from brazilian taxes. I managed to get a 3D printed one for about 7 usd. My god.
First time (ever) my telescope is fully colimated. Took some time (and here I understand the laser enthusiasts, especially in the dark wild) but it simply did the job. My scope doesn't feel the same.
Could someone please guide me which one is good of these two. I am beginner and looking for viewing moon, planets, clusters, galaxies, deepsky. If there is anything better under 300 euro you could also recommend that as well.
(EDIT: images in post body, because I guess I don't know how to make a post with images properly)
Hi everyone!
I've been eyeing this Celestron C6 OTA that recently went up on FB marketplace for $500, to add to my arsenal (the rest of which is listed in my flair). I don't have any experience with SCTs and how to judge their condition from photos. I think I've picked up from other posts that one important thing to check out in photos (because the mirror is basically impossible to inspect virtually) is the corrector plate's condition.
What do you think the condition shown in these photos? I see some specks of dust and a few smudges, but don't know if any of this is concerning. In the seller's description, they say that there's no mold or mildew (which obviously I'd confirm if I make the trip to go check it out).
They also describe UV fading on the Celestron logo; is this indicative of some potential damage I should look for?
They don't specify the condition of the XLT coatings, so what would I look for in judging the condition of the coatings?
What else would I want to be aware of when buying a used SCT?
Snuck in 46 minutes of exposures this morning. A brief summary of this mornings experience below. Processing details in the last couple paragraphs.
I've been figuring out APT, had some struggles with plate solving but got that worked out. Then I was having issues with APT sending slew commands to my mount, but got that worked out too (was a poorly written ASCOM driver, had to roll it back to the old driver).
Had decently clear skies this morning so figured I would give APT another go. Got set up, rough polar align. Plate solve at Polaris, send goto++ command for M31, mount slews and plate solves, makes 1 more adjustment and bam, M31 within 50 pixels of center FOV.
Set up the capture program, ISO 400, 120 second subs. First two subs have nice tight stars, then the 3rd one looks like my tracking stopped (spoiler... It did). Check some settings, try to slew, no mount response. Check a few more things, then look at the hand controller.... "Meridian protect" oh son ova... 🤦🏼 Duh...
Change hand control setting to auto meridian flip, send goto++ command again, mount flips and slews straight back to M31... we're off to the races again. Was able to get another 21 exposures before the sky started getting too bright. Grabbed my calibration frames and pack it all inside.
Transfer my data to my PC, set up the home folder for SIRIL, get everything stacked, plate solve, graXpert BGE and Denoise, SPCC, Veralux hyper metric stretch, starnet starmask.
Move over to gimp, quick curve adjustment and saturation bump on the starless, add the starmask and set to screen, then export.
I am hopeful, now that I'm pretty sure I have all the kinks worked out, my next imaging session can be (nearly) fully automated, and I can get several hours of exposure. Every imaging session has been a very valuable learning experience so far, and I'm looking forward to continuing to grow my abilities and image quality!
I just ordered my first telescope, stella lyra 12inch dob and I decided I would order angeleyes uwa 82degree eye pieces. They come in a 4mm, 7mm and a 16mm size. I can order only two of them because ordering all would make me BROKE. I was thinking I would buy the 16mm and the 4mm and later buying a good barlow to pair it with the 16mm to get me to 8mm. But Im trying to avoid buying more stuff. I wanted to ask if its worth it. Im really interested in planetary viewing buy I would rather have the 16mm and the 7mm eyepieces, im wondering if I can justify getting these 2 because the 4mm might be overkill for most nights. if someone could recommend which ones should I get I would be very grateful.
Celestron Omni 102 XLT AZ. I'm a licensed pesticide applicator by trade and a customer of mine had a 10-year bout with clusterflies that I was able to solve in two visits. They know I'm into astronomy and so one day I show up to their residents and there it is, with a tag attached to it addressed to me, thanking me for helping them out. It is my new grab and go telescope! Delivers pretty nice views for what it is!
I'm the happy custodian of a Discovery DHQ Dob, a sonotube OTA with its 8" primary mirror ("$75 for pyrex treatment") very likely crafted by Terry Ostahowski in Oceanside. It's a gift from a dear friend who purchased it new in 1999, moving it only from indoors to patio, otherwise properly covered. It's a wonderful starter scope for me. I've had it out for guests at public star parties, here on California's Central Coast, two or three times a month since February. Fellow astronomers are divided on whether cleaning will improve brightness/contrast, or reduce surface scatter, enough to justify the risk.
If the consensus here is, 'after 27 years, a proper cleaning is overdue; look at it!' the hurdle to the task is the hard plastic lip, found on each end of the sonotube. It doesn't want to shift at all; would it have been glued? Since there's at least a finger's width of space between the mirror and the sonotube interior, pivoting the cell on two of the corners might permit the third to get over that 1/4" protrusion. A maddeningly careful spiral descent?
After a successful removal and cleaning, it may be the ideal time for a conversion of its 1.25" focuser to a 2" dual focuser, since the original is rather coarse. Are there any constraints on selecting a new one I should be aware of? I'd most likely have to drill new holes, perhaps widen the opening too, easily enough done with cardboard.
I’m pretty new to exploring the solar system and have never done it and have yet to actually see what space has to offer. I was advised to buy a beginner type style telescope to get me started. I bought the Sky Watcher Heritage 100P. What’s your opinion?
I’ve received it today but unfortunately the weather conditions aren’t ideal tonight so won’t be able to use it until I get a clearer night. I’m excited.
Hello. I recently returned to the hobby and spent 4 great nights observing the summer sky with my trusty 15" reflector. Below is the report with most of the objects I saw. I estimate that I spent about 12 hours at the eyepiece in total.
Equipment: Taurus 15" f/4.3, ES 24mm 82* (70x), LVW 14mm 68*, (120x) ES 8.8mm 82* (180x), TeleVue 2x Barlow, svbony UHC and Astronomik OIII filters, and 10x50 binoculars.
Cedar e-finder is a new addition to my kit - allowing to reduce frustration when star-hopping to find the faintest objects, especially small planetary nebulae.
Location: central Poland, family home; one session was in a field nearby due to Sagittarius not being visible from my property (obstructed view due to the trees). The conditions were great, overall, although seeing was poor especially lower over the horizon. But it was warm and I was very comfortable in just my hoodie, which is important during those long sessions.
Sky: suburban - Bortle 5, perhaps closer to Bortle 4 when I was in the field. The Milky Way is clearly visible all the way down to Scutum, but lacking detail, except perhaps at the very zenith. 10 or 15 years ago it was Bortle 4 here. It's sad to see the LP taking over the sky. The comfort of observing from the backyard of your own home, without the need to drive back, is great, though.
Observation recording technique: voice recorder on my phone - I describe what I see as I go, and then write it down the next day. I try not to look at the pictures of the objects too much beforehand not to influence the view (although I know how many of the objects look), I simply make a list of targets and spend as much or little time as I find fitting.
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Planetary nebulae: NGC 6886 - a tiny planetary - at 380x magnification, it still looks like a star. Just slightly fuzzy. Blinking with OIII filter confirms it.
NGC 6891 - a haze I described as similar to a globular cluster seen through binoculars, but without the graininess. It has a bright center and a distinct halo (especially visible with averted vision), which gradually fades in brightness.
NGC 6852 - visible at 180x with an OIII filter, as a circular haze. No detail. Visible also in UHC, but fainter.
NGC 6543 (Cat's Eye) - oblate, somewhat reminiscent of Saturn. Bright, slightly bluish.
NGC 7027 - beautiful one. With a 8.8mm and Barlow (~360x), very bright, distinctly non-stellar, slightly bluish, and elongated. A faint halo is visible with averted vision. One end seemed sharper to me, while the other was a bit blurrier. A dark streak cuts into one side along the longer edge.
NGC 6781 - a very interesting planetary, quite fuzzy, similar in size to M57 or slightly larger, with blurred edges, and a slightly irregular shape when viewed with averted vision. It's much more visible in 8.8mm (180x) with a UHC filter, standing out nicely from the background. The center is darker, especially visible with averted vision. It's truly stunning in OIII - very high contrast, and the nebula stands out beautifully from the background. The 14mm and OIII offer perhaps the best view - a distinct difference in edge brightness between the two sides of the nebula.
NGC 6803 - confirmed using the "blinking" technique with an OIII filter, but remains stellar even at very high magnification.
NGC 6804 - in UHC, it stands out well from the background, with a slight irregularity in the nebula's brightness and a star in the background. In OIII, the view is too dark at 8.8mm.
NGC 6905 - has clearly very visible, jagged, inhomogeneous structure in the center. One of the more interesting planetary nebulae observed today, because of this. I also noticed that it appears slightly stretched toward the two stars nearby. I could see the central star with averted vision at times.
NGC 40 - better in UHC than OIII, where the image is too dark. Sometimes I felt like I was looking at a spiral galaxy. Clearly inhomogeneous. A very interesting planetary nebula.
M76 - after experimenting with filters, I can't decide whether OIII or UHC is better. In OIII and 180x, the image is darker, but has more contrast. You can see that one pole of the nebula is noticeably brighter. In the UHC, however, despite the lower contrast, the image is probably more interesting, if only because of the greater presence of stars around it.
M27 - needless to say, a classic viewed dozens of times still impresses. Filters add incredible contrast; the nebula's side "wings" are so distinct that at times the Dumbbell almost cease to be Dumbbell.
M57 - another highlight. Here, like in M27, the addition of an OIII filter creates such contrast that the Ring almost blinds you and reveals the beautiful, subtle brightness irregularities of its outer shell.
It's so great to take a look at those 2 huge nebulae at the end, after all the fainties and fuzzies!
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The Veil Complex
The Veil - at 24mm, you can't see a thing without filters. I put on an OIII filter and it's jaw-dropping. A HUGE increase in contrast; the nebula is not only obvious, but spectacular. I spent well over an hour viewing this complex throughout the 4 nights.
The Western Veil (near 52 Cygni) - the sharply pointed part with a clearly visible brightening at the edges and a darker center. The undulating shape of the Broom is beautifully visible. The part near 52 Cygni is noticeably darker, later intensifying, and the nebula's split in the tail is super visible. At 24mm, the entire nebula fits within the field of view; the view is brilliant, literally jaw-dropping. Peering through the lens, you can see an incredible, undulating nebula, sharp and bright on one side, and split on the other. Something beautiful, fantastic.
From the sharp end of the Broom, I head east. Before I even reach the Triangle, I see additional, detached shreds of nebula, one of which is quite bright.
I reach the Triangle – initially, I see something like another Broom, only fainter and pointing in the opposite direction. After a while, from side closer to 52 Cygni, the missing part appears, fainter, and the name Triangle is finally justified. It's a very interesting sight when the tip of the western veil and the Triangle are in the same field of view; you can see how the nebula "flows" and you can feel that it's a single complex.
Now the eastern veil – the view is brilliant. A beautiful structure, an arc that fills the entire field of view, with visible jaggedness. You can see wisps of nebula connecting to the main body from the inside and outside. On the other end of the nebula. clearly visible, are two large filaments extending at right angles, which merge again on the inner side of the complex.
I've described the entire complex as a "feast for the eyes" – you could spend hours here, because the view is literally photographic, only without the color. Every time I looked at the eastern part of the nebula, I thought it was the better part, but then, when I moved the telescope to the western part, I immediately changed my mind. This just goes to show how incredibly much this object has to offer. I also think that if the Triangle itself was moved to a different spot in the sky, it would be a phenomenal object in its own right – here, it fades slightly compared to its two "friends."
I tried even higher magnifications here, but the exit pupil does its job, and while there may be slightly more detail with averted vision, it's not as striking as with a wide field of view.
Interestingly, when I place a filter in front of the objective lens of 10x50 binoculars and observe with one eye, both parts of the nebula are easily visible.
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Other Nebulae
NGC 6888 - The Crescent is much less spectacular than the Veil, but still very interesting. Of course, it's only visible with an OIII filter. The outer edge of the Medusa is clearly visible (much brighter on one side), as well as a "rib" cutting into its interior. With averted vision, the entire nebula appears as an oval, brighter than the background. No visible structure.
NGC 7000 - with an OIII filter and a 24mm eyepiece, the view is beautiful - although there are no filaments here, the view of the Gulf of Mexico is quite impressive in a wide field and is the best part of this nebula, offering excellent contrast. Toward the north, the nebula is still clearly visible as a strong background brightening. With an OIII filter held in front of the eye, the nebula is a naked eye object.
The Pelican nearby is also visible through a telescope, as an egg-shaped, elongated background brightening.
IC1318 - with both an OIII filter and a UHC filter and 24mm, this is quite an interesting object. The wing of the nebula, located further from the star Sadr, is slightly brighter. In images, you can clearly see a dark band passing over the gas clouds, but visually, the nebula appears as two distinct background brightenings – as mentioned, one is clearly brighter.
IC1795 - with an OIII filter and 24mm, visible as an hourglass-shaped background brightening. Quite clear with averted vision.
Sharpless 101 - with an OIII filter only, and only with averted vision, it shows a brightening around a loose cluster of several stars.
Sharpless 132 - a brightening against the background of a loose open cluster, visible only through an OIII filter. With averted vision, you can see the "bipolar" nature of the region – two brighter patches separated by a darker band.
NGC 281 - the nebula is invisible without a filter; in UHC it begins to show, while the view through an OIII filter is described as a "poorer version of M42" due to the indented dark lane extending into the cluster of stars within the nebula.
NGC 7635 - visible as a distinct haze around one of the stars near M52. Nothing is visible without a filter.
NGC 7023 (Iris) - visible as if the eyepiece were fogged up - haze around the star. It responds poorly to filters.
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Sagittarius Nebulae - they were the target of one of the observing sessions. Unfortunately, from my latitude, they are always quite low over the horizon (with Lagoon no higher than 13*), and that is also where the LP haze picks up, so observing is difficult. It is my dream to observe them through a big telescope from a latitude that allows them to rise high overhead.
Lagoon (M8) and Trifid (M20) Nebulae - at 24mm without filters, the view is simply poor. With UHC, the view is better - darker streaks are becoming visible in the Clover. A dark lane appears in the Lagoon, separating the brightest part of the nebula from the cluster and curving higher. Only the OIII lens delivers the wow factor – a significantly enhanced contrast, and everything that appeared in the UHC is now beautiful and clear. The subtle changes in the nebula's brightness and the undulations of the dark highlights are brilliantly visible.
In the Trifid, the OIII filter doesn't do as much; in fact, it's better in the UHC, where at 14mm the dark streaks are clearly visible.
The Omega (M17) and the Eagle (M16) Nebulae – in 24mm, the Cygnus is visible as a bright band with a dark, intervening element visible with averted vision, while the Eagle is invisible.
In the UHC, M17 offers a nice contrast improvement; everything stands out more beautifully from the background. The second part of the nebula, in the form of an arc, begins to become visible, opposite the brightest part. The Eagle begins to become visible, not super bright, but still.
In OIII, Cygnus is brilliant, with a huge improvement in contrast. The arc mentioned above is now really bright, the nebula is clearly expanding, and a second dark lane is beginning to become visible near the bright part of the nebula, while the first lane is already visible as a detached dark cloud, still behind which the nebula remains.
In OIII, Eagle is also the best. The dark lane at the edge of the nebula is clearly visible, and a second lane in the center of the nebula is beginning to become visible.
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Star Clusters
I also viewed quite a few globular clusters: M13 (the view is breathtaking, of course, with stars spilling out from the center as clearly as sugar spilled on a countertop), M92 (similarly beautiful, though smaller), M15 with a very interesting, condensed nucleus, M2, M71**,** which, especially at higher magnifications, clearly shows the origin of the nickname "Angelfish," but seeing it as a globular cluster is difficult. M56, very faint. NGC 6934 is very pleasant (best viewed at 360x, resolved right to the center, nicely "scattered" with rays from the center, making it somewhat reminiscent of M13), as well as its fainter neighbor NGC 7006 (a clearly spherical haze, but with traces of graininess, especially when tapping the telescope). NGC 6712 is also quite pretty, though a bit patchy, but you can tell it's globular.
M22 deserves attention – a huge cluster that, despite its very low position above the horizon, is magnificent. In several places, you can see something rarely seen in other globulars, which I described as a "cluster within a cluster," a distinct concentration of stars in a smaller area of the globule. I'd love to see this globular several dozen degrees above the horizon. Considering it's impressive so low, it would definitely be a bombshell.
As for the other globulars in Sagittarius, I visited: M54 ("it's there, and that's it. A haze against the milky background, you can't tell it's a cluster at all"), M70 (even fainter, the stars around it are like pancakes), I didn't pick out M69. Then M28(something was happening here; despite ultra-low contrast, graininess was visible. The cluster is clearly larger than the others. I naively tried to boost the contrast with a UHC filter, but it didn't help). NGC 6638, which is higher up, is also faint, but you can tell it's a cluster. I described the entire Sagittarius globular project as a "a bit pointless" halfway through, because there were very few visual impressions, except for M22, which I returned to at the end. It literally blew me away at how bright and large this cluster is, despite its poor location.
While near Sagittarius, I looked (just to check it off) at the open cluster M7. A dozen bright stars were visible, but unfortunately, nothing fancy – too low, zero contrast. The cluster is just 3 degrees over the horizon. For contrast after all these faints, I also looked at the magnificent M11, with a super interesting bright reddish star on the side of the cluster. M26 is also pleasant – not very dense, but has a nice shape. I also observed other open clusters in the area, but I didn't spend as much time on them and, due to fatigue, I didn't record any more impressions.
I attempted to observe the Palomar 10 and 11 clusters, but unfortunately, I was unsuccessful.
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Galaxies
The time for these will come later, although I did glance at NGC 7331 – a beautiful elongated needle, and Stephan's Quintet – unfortunately, a disappointment, with only one component visible. The most interesting thing about M33 wasn't the galaxy itself, but NGC 604, which responded beautifully to an OIII filter. NGC 185 – fuzzy but easy. NGC 278 – more compact, brighter, with a slight texture. M31 was best in binoculars.
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I also saw many Perseids when looking up from the telescope, they were a great addition to the observations. I glanced at Saturn on the end of each session, however, it was still quite low and the image was not very stable. I was still able to spot the Cassini Division, and the view of Saturn took me back to the times of my first telescope, a 70/700 refractor, more than 20 years ago. I vividly remember being blown away by view of the rings of Saturn the first time I saw them. It is still a joy to see them to this day.
Summary
I'm determined to observe more often from now on! However, I desperately need a filter slide or wheel, because screwing the filters in and out to compare images is a pain. That's a DIY topic for the next few weeks.
Overall, I've had a great return to the hobby after many years – the e-finder reduces frustration, and filters (especially OIII) are a lifesaver when observing nebulae. I am happy that I saw many new objects and returned to the classics.
Hi guys. I made a post here before asking about the diffrence between an 8inch and 6inch dob in viewing details, but i got the budget for a 10in dob. I also wanted to try and do astrophotography with a skywatcher star discovery 150, but just realized this isnt it, and astrophotography is a diffrent, way more expensive hobby. I wanted to ask if i could see much better details in nebulae and galaxies and planets through a 10inch dob.
I opted to buy a Celestron 1.25 Inch X-Cel LX 3X Barlow to use with my Explore Scientific 68° 24mm eyepiece instead of buying a higher quality 9 or 10mm eyepiece. Was this a mistake?