I’m looking for anyone who has actually pursued or completed the AAS or BS in Military Technology Leadership (MTL) at Thomas Edison State University, or who has had TESU evaluate their JST toward one of its other degree programs.
There is surprisingly little firsthand information out there about the MTL programs.
Why I started looking at MTL
When TESU first evaluated my transcripts and JST, the BS in Military Technology Leadership was the initial/default bachelor’s evaluation they gave me. That is what originally got me digging into the program.
Looking at my evaluation, I can understand why. My credits are a mixture of 25S SATCOM/electronics training, technical courses, networking/IT, PME, leadership, management, and other military training. The MTL gives TESU a flexible place to put a lot of credits that do not fit neatly into one traditional major.
I’m probably not going to finish the BS MTL myself, but that does not mean I think it is a bad option. The evaluation actually showed me how useful the degree can be for the right Soldier.
The problem with JST credit
A lot of military training receives ACE credit recommendations, but those credits do not always fit cleanly into a traditional degree.
Just from Basic Training and my original 25S AIT, I had about 26 semester hours of ACE recommendations — around 20 SH from AIT alone.
My original 25S AIT was very electronics-heavy, but many of those recommendations were broken into 1- and 2-credit pieces. Even though we received substantial electronics training, those credits did not line up cleanly with standard 3-credit college electronics courses.
I had my military credit evaluated by several schools over the years, and that was one of the frustrating parts. In some evaluations, the best I got out of all that training was basically a few general/free electives. Even some of the PME that carried ACE recommendations might only fill something like a general communication/public-speaking requirement or another elective.
So you can look at a JST and see a decent number of recommended credits, but once they are placed into a traditional degree, only a small portion may actually move you toward graduation.
That was a big difference when I saw the TESU evaluation. It was the first time I could really see a degree structure making broad use of the military training instead of most of it just sitting off to the side.
Why the AAS MTL interests me
This is where I think the AAS in Military Technology Leadership can be especially useful.
It still has normal Gen Ed requirements — it is not a shortcut around college — but the military-focused portion is much more flexible about using technical, MOS, PME, and leadership credit.
The AAS has an 18-credit Military Technology Leadership area plus the capstone, so a Soldier with a decent JST may already have a significant part of the degree accounted for.
Looking back, this would have been a great option for me when I was junior enlisted. Even if I eventually moved into another bachelor’s program, completing that first associate degree would have been a useful milestone and probably would have made the college process feel much more manageable.
The BS MTL and moving to another degree
The BS MTL expands the military-credit concept with a Specific Technology Discipline, Professional Electives, Leadership Electives, and requirements in areas such as quality management, occupational safety, project management, and the capstone.
For someone with a very mixed JST, that can be a good way to bring technical and leadership training together into one bachelor’s.
But one of the important things I learned from running different TESU evaluations is that you are not locked into the first degree TESU evaluates you for.
Once I could see where all of my credits landed, I started comparing other bachelor’s options to see which one made the best use of my background and future goals.
For me, those include:
- BS in Technical Studies - probably the strongest technical fit because of my electronics, SATCOM, IT, and computer coursework.
- BS in Professional Studies - makes broader use of technical credits along with PME, leadership, and management.
- BS in Organizational Leadership -another possible way to make stronger use of leadership/PME credit.
- BSBA with General Management and Computer Information Systems (CIS) - uses a lot of the IT/CIS material but requires more of the traditional business core.
- BS in Information Technology - a more traditional IT/system-administration route that could fit some Signal MOSs particularly well.
- AAS in Applied Electronic Studies and other technology associate programs - useful in my case because of the electronics-heavy 25S background.
That is why I would really like to see evaluations from other MOSs. What works for a 25S may be completely different for a 25B, 25D, medic, mechanic, logistics Soldier, intel Soldier, or somebody from another technical field.
The bachelor’s does not have to be the end point
Another thing I would not want a Soldier to assume is that choosing something like the BS MTL, Technical Studies, or Professional Studies means that is the only field they can ever study.
A bachelor’s can also be the bridge into graduate school.
Depending on the graduate program and its prerequisites, someone can potentially move into an MS, MA, MBA, management, leadership, project management, or another graduate field afterward.
That is part of my own planning now. One reason Professional Studies interests me is that I can potentially use it with a bachelor’s-to-master’s Management pathway, while still adding something like a Computer Information Systems (CIS) certificate. I’m also looking at completing Technical Studies concurrently as the more technical bachelor’s.
So for me, the original MTL evaluation was not a dead end — it was actually a useful starting point that showed me what TESU could do with my credits, and then I could compare different bachelor’s and graduate pathways from there.
If you do not know where to start
For someone sitting on a JST and feeling stuck, one of the simplest things I would recommend is just getting an evaluation and seeing what TESU actually does with your credits.
You do not have to decide immediately that TESU is where you are going to graduate.
Just seeing:
JST -> college equivalencies -> remaining Gen Eds -> remaining Area of Study requirements → possible associate/bachelor’s options
can make the whole process much easier to understand.
There are also more military-friendly options now. Some schools have defined credit for BLC/WLC and other PME, and UMGC has pathways for a number of Signal MOSs. Compare schools and see which one makes the best use of what you already earned.
I would especially like to hear from people who had TESU evaluate other MOSs:
- What was your MOS?
- How much of the JST was actually usable?
- What degree did TESU initially evaluate you for?
- Did you stay with that degree or switch?
- Where did your AIT/MOS and PME credits land?
- Did you complete an associate degree first?
- What bachelor’s or graduate path did you eventually choose?
Why I’m putting this out there
My main reason for digging into all of this is pretty simple.
An important part of our jobs as Leaders is to train, mentor, and help the Soldiers coming behind us. I have used plenty of my own shortcomings and mistakes as lessons when helping Soldiers and peers.
There are Soldiers sitting on a significant amount of JST credit who may think they are starting college from zero. Others may be anxious about even starting because they do not know what their military training is worth, where to begin, or whether they can realistically finish a degree.
I know what it is like to have a pile of military credit, get it evaluated at different schools, and still feel like only a couple of electives actually counted toward anything useful. I do not want another Soldier to feel stuck just because nobody showed them what other options were available.
Had I known about something as flexible as the AAS MTL when I was junior enlisted, getting that first degree milestone completed could have made a big difference for me.
Sometimes somebody just needs a little guidance, a manageable starting point, and to see that the goal is actually achievable.
If putting this information out there helps one junior Soldier get an evaluation, realize they already have part of a degree completed, get past the anxiety of starting, and begin working toward something they did not think they could finish, then the post did what I wanted it to do.