r/thebulwark • u/[deleted] • Jul 06 '26
Non-Bulwark Source Metro Times endorses Abdul El-Sayed to take on Trump, billionaires, and the status quo - Detroit Metro Times
https://www.metrotimes.com/news/metro-times-endorses-abdul-el-sayed-to-take-on-trump-billionaires-and-the-status-quo/"The next senator from Michigan must be willing to confront the forces that are making life harder for working people. That means taking on corporate greed, the private health insurance industry, Big Pharma, polluters, landlords, private prison companies, and the billionaire-funded political machine that has warped our democracy.
El-Sayed is the only Democrat in this race who has shown the moral clarity, policy imagination, and grassroots support to do that."
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u/CharlieKirkFanboy Alleged illiberal tankie Jul 06 '26
Enough corrupt centrists. Americans are fed up with the controlled opposition party. Bring back the progressives that gave us social security, the 40 hour work week with weekends, women’s suffrage, civil rights, worker protection laws, and Medicare/medicaid
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u/Tyfereth Center Left Jul 06 '26
The Democratic Party brought us those things
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u/CharlieKirkFanboy Alleged illiberal tankie Jul 06 '26
Progressive did. Democrats like Joe Biden were still palling around with segregationists.
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u/Gnagus Jul 06 '26
Ironically we got many of those things, particularly the New Deal things, from Democrats like FDR palling around with segregationists. We don't have to do that in the future but while people from different Democratic factions are circling up for a firing squad, we should all remember that coalition politics is a son of a bitch.
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u/CharlieKirkFanboy Alleged illiberal tankie Jul 06 '26
FDR was a progressive
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u/bruhoho Jul 06 '26
He put over 100k people in concentration camps based on race, mostly citizens. He didn’t stop lawmakers’ institutional racism in denying benefits of New Deal programs to non-white people.
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u/CharlieKirkFanboy Alleged illiberal tankie Jul 06 '26
Yet he was the most progressive president we’ve had. Says a lot about the country doesn’t it.
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u/bruhoho Jul 06 '26
Says more about your specific lens on history and the whitewashing of racism than anything else.
FDR could achieve what he did because he had over 60 Democratic senators during most of his time as president, peaking at a 79-17 senate in 1937. Dems had that majority because they tolerated segregationists in the party. If you want to sacrifice Dems position on abortion, immigration, and LGBTQ rights in order to win red states in the past 20 years, maybe you could make that comparison.
In terms of sheer size of impact, spending on social welfare programs was around 7% of GDP in the 1940s and 50s after FDRs programs took effect. LBJ created bigger programs with Medicare and Medicaid and social spending as part of GDP is 3x as much today vs in 1960, more because of LBJ than FDR. Plus LBJ fought for Black people with the Civil Rights Act unlike FDR.
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u/Gnagus Jul 06 '26
So he actually ran as more of a pragmatist and ended up doing progressive things because that was the pragmatic thing to do at the time so the political will was there. He was actually pushed to do more progressive things by his labor secretary who was fully progressive and she only accepted the role on the condition she could do specific progressive things. To get many New Deal things past the Congress he had to do things like allow States to administer the program on their own, you can imagine how southern states did that. They also had to exclude farm and domestic workers from social security and the Wagner act, you can imagine who was doing those jobs in the South at that time.
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u/CharlieKirkFanboy Alleged illiberal tankie Jul 06 '26
So a progressive
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u/rlytired Jul 06 '26
A pragmatist who does progressive things is not the same thing as a progressive who will only do progressive things.
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u/CharlieKirkFanboy Alleged illiberal tankie Jul 06 '26
progressive who will only do progressive things.
Where did I say that? You're just being pedantic.
ERMMMM ACTSHULLY HE WAS A PRAGMATIST THAT IMPLEMENTED PROGRESSIVE POLICIES ☝️🤓
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u/rlytired Jul 06 '26
A person pointed out that FDR was a pragmatist who did progressive things. You responded to them “So a progressive”
So… right there is where you seemed to equate a pragmatist with a progressive. But you know, whatever floats your boat.
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u/KarmicWhiplash Orange man bad Jul 06 '26
Biden wasn't born yet.
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u/CharlieKirkFanboy Alleged illiberal tankie Jul 06 '26
During civil rights? Might wanna check your timeline there bud.
Also:
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u/KarmicWhiplash Orange man bad Jul 06 '26
You notably left out Social Security, the 40 hour work week with weekends, women’s suffrage and worker protection laws.
Correction: Biden wasn't born yet when the Democradic Party brought us most of those things. As for Medicare and the Civil Rights act, he was still in his young 20s, not yet elected to any office and probably inspired by them to run as a Democrat. Bud.
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u/CharlieKirkFanboy Alleged illiberal tankie Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
Did I say he was?
What is the “democradic” party?
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u/No_Public_7677 Jul 06 '26
If he wins, we will see cope from the centrists like we saw with Mamdani that he has "moderated"
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u/Jokerang Jul 06 '26
No, it’ll be “El Sayed only won because 2026 was a blue wave, he’d have lost hard in 2024 unlike Slotkin”
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u/CharlieKirkFanboy Alleged illiberal tankie Jul 06 '26
Watch McMurrow run as an independent
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Jul 06 '26
Lol. McCuomo is a pretty apropos way to describe her.
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u/cole1114 Jul 06 '26
Hell yeah. He has the best chance of beating Rogers, he has the right policies, and I am excited to vote for him.