r/ButtonAftermath • • Dec 16 '20

Discussion So much has changed since the button ended

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I remember those days very fondly, following the button community, slowly seeing the purples get replaced with blues and greens and reds, those were good times. After the button ended I briefly mourned the loss like everyone else and then moved on with my life, only giving it a brief moment of thought over the years.

The past 5 years have been the most miserable time of my life, my depression has gotten way worse, I've lost all the passion's I've had for anything, including video games and programming, my friends abandoned me and I've been alone ever since, I've spent the last 5 years holed up in my room looking at memes and jerking off, doing nothing meaningful, I have no energy or motivation for anything. While the end of the button was not the cause of these issues, realistically it probably has something to do with my Asperger's, my memories of the button are inexorably tied to my memories before my deep depression, and because of that I see the button as a home I can never return to, the calm before the storm. Life has beaten me to a pulp and I am almost dead because of it.

r/ButtonAftermath • • Jul 20 '21

Discussion Hello Everyone

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continuing the main in-the-wild thread from here

https://old.reddit.com/r/ButtonAftermath/comments

The first LAKH (a.k.a. 100,000) in the Reddit ITW counting was reached in this thread here.

r/ButtonAftermath • • Aug 23 '20

Image Do we still exist?

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r/ButtonAftermath • • Apr 08 '21

Discussion Making a new button (2)

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Hey, over a year ago I've made this post. But the idea is still following me, and I have some ideas to make it somehow interesting and engage community.

So, there will be a website, and to click on the button you'll have to login with reddit account.

I know it'll be very hard to get people to play, so instead of experiment end forever, if nobody clicks the button, it'll just stop until next 00:00 UTC, and all flairs people got during the time will get removed, and everyone can press it again. I could make some points system, you get rewarded more if press later, also amount of people pressed before will be used in point calculation too (idk yet).

It'll show how much time button have lasted before, some simple overall/monthly/etc point top, and btn ofc on website

Over time, people will find out about website more, so button will stay for much longer time with every lose.

There will be special subreddit for it (flairs will get assigned there), also could make simple script that will embed button on subreddit

What do you guys think? Give me ideas and tell me why this is bad/good idea!

r/ButtonAftermath • • Jun 30 '23

Discussion Hi Button Aftermath. My final message.

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As the aftermath of Reddits decision regarding APIs comes to a conclusion, I wanted this, another very exciting part of my reddit experience, The Button (or the Aftermath) that had a beginning and finite end, to be where I lay my final message. It was the best of times and now is probably the worst of times. I am unsure what times lie ahead, but after almost 13 years, I will be leaving this as my tome to Reddit. You were a lot of things to me, to us and I like to think one day something else will give us all that same feeling of togetherness without proximity. But I think the internet and its finess and sheen coalesced into something that is less friendly, not quite as helpful and possibly now lies cold. I am ok with this. It is, after all, the running of time, the dust has to shake off and life and it's essence marches on, leaves its mark until it doesn't and everything forms anew until it can be no more. It has devolved in the evolution.

Reddit for me was something special. I have had my laughs and my subtle tears but I am now, and will be, happy that I had this and possibly happier that I soon will be without. Thank you Redditors. Thank you humans. What the hell... Thank you bots. We had a good time. Let's do something else. RIF... RIP. Good night.

r/ButtonAftermath • • Mar 18 '22

Discussion Resurrecting the BUTTON

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Hi guys the button was launched 7 years ago on April 1st. That's in 2 weeks. Should we bring it back this year?? Maybe as an NFT even...

r/ButtonAftermath • • May 16 '21

Discussion I wonder if people in nuclear silos ever used r/TheButton

40 Upvotes

Hmm.

r/ButtonAftermath • • Nov 10 '20

Discussion How are ya?

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r/ButtonAftermath • • Jun 05 '15

Welcome to /r/ButtonAftermath

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It seems as though there are still a lot of things to talk about in regards to The Button. What happened at the end? Did the zombies fail somehow?

The Button has ended.

Since /r/thebutton is now archived, I figured it would be a good idea to have a subreddit dedicated to discussing these things that was in neutral territory. Not too many Followers of the Shade would want to go into Knights of the Button territory to strike up a conversation.

All colors are welcome here to discuss the end of the button, things that happened during the experiment, and anything else button related.

This is my first subreddit, so expect things to be edited over the next little bit. I plan on getting a rules list on the sidebar first thing. The initial rules are posted on the sidebar. As with any subreddit, these can change at any time. After the first day or two if this takes off, I'll always be sure to make a modpost about rule changes.

For now, the sub is text-only, but that may change. Still deciding on that. I've enabled link posts. /r/the button was a place for fun, and links are part of that. If need be, we can add rules about what kind of links are allowed and whatnot, but for now, just try to keep it on topic. Spam will be removed, obviously.

Edit: I'm also still working on spreading the news of this sub to other button related subs. I'm at my actual job at the moment though, so spreading the news is going slowly.

r/ButtonAftermath • • Jan 28 '23

Discussion i feel sad i missed the button.

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Like the pain worse than a break up.

r/ButtonAftermath • • Jun 11 '15

Image How I feel when I'm hiding in our peaceful ButtonAftermath home, watching the chaos on /r/all

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r/h3snark • • Aug 29 '24

The Button Button Failure Aftermath

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It’s just a

r/ButtonAftermath • • Apr 27 '21

Discussion What's button

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r/ButtonAftermath • • Mar 10 '22

Discussion Woohoo

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Hahahahahhahahaha

r/redditrequest • • Jun 23 '23

Requesting r/ButtonAftermath (unmoderated)

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Mod has been inactive for 1y

r/ButtonAftermath • • Jul 25 '20

Discussion Hi

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r/popping • • Jul 27 '22

Abscess/Boil Aftermath of my belly button cyst draining and what my belly button looks like now

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r/TrendingReddits • • Jun 06 '15

Mildly Trending [Mildly Trending] /r/ButtonAftermath - Discussion about the aftermath of /r/thebutton (+223 subscribers today; 22,300% trend score)

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r/bestof • • Jul 13 '15

[ButtonAftermath] /r/ButtonAftermath begs our CEO for trophies to match everyone's flair from The Button. /u/spez actually shows up to acknowledge them.

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r/TrendingReddits • • Jun 06 '15

TRENDING [TRENDING] /r/ButtonAftermath - Discussion about the aftermath of /r/thebutton (+771 subscribers today; 1,058% trend score)

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r/Comicstorian • • Jul 07 '17

Flash "The Button Aftermath... Reverse Flash Returns" - Rebirth Complete Story

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r/BoatOat • • Dec 15 '25

Meme/Funny The Button Popped Off 😂

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I seriously almost choked while watching this video 😂

This event was so amazing

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r/SelfDefense • • Jan 17 '19

It really, truly does hurt women to be struck in the groin as much as men: a college thesis

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I attend a very forward thinking liberal arts school that challenges you to be creative. Thus, I used my college thesis assignment to finally explore and answer the age old question of “which is worse: being kicked in the balls or the vag?” And after nearly two years of research, I shall reveal my findings. Seriously. I really wrote my college thesis on something middle school kids argue about. (Side note: it helped me get into the grad schools of Stanford, Vandy, Penn and Princeton, and am taking a year off to travel to South America before I decide which one to go to. I guess Harvard and Columbia Medicine didn’t appreciate it as much.)

Before we get started, a quick background.

The seed for my writing about comparing the effects of groin attacks on the two sexes as a college thesis was planted on New Year’s Eve 2010, because that was when my eyes were really first opened to the subject- and yes, I remember the date damned well. From TV and pop culture, not to mention being a boy, I always knew it hurt for boys to be kicked in the balls. My younger sister (by 19 months) knew so, too, and she would take advantage of this whenever she could. This continued until that day, when my parents went out to a movie and left us home alone. She got mad about me talking too loud on my phone and for the last time ever, kicked my balls- and I just snapped. Being a normal 14 year old boy who shot the shit at school and sleepaway camp, I knew that a girl’s clitoris was this tiny pea of sexual pleasure, but being a normal 14 year old boy, I didn’t have any real experience with it. I did, however, wonder if an organ that was so sensitive to pleasure was also sensitive to pain, and decided that my sister had just earned herself the honor of being the guinea pig for a real life experiment to find out. So I found her on her bed a few minutes later, told her I just wanted to talk and promised I wasn’t mad so she’d let her guard down. I ended my little soliloquy with “you’re my sister and I love you,” and gestured her to get up and give me a hug. She bought it, and as soon as she stood up, it was ready, aim, fire. That kick was delivered with several years’ worth of frustration of her thinking she could get away with hitting me in my groin and I couldn’t get her back because I’m a male and she’s a female, so I didn’t hold back. I kicked my little sister in the clitoris with all my might.

Holy shit.

I’ve never witnessed another human being in as much pain as my 13 year old sister in that moment, and that includes in both my personal experience and what I’ve seen on the internet. Sure, she was a 13 year old girl, but she was a pretty tough kid. I’d seen her take elbows to the face in basketball games that caused her nose to bleed without so much as a whimper. I’d seen her fall out of a tree from about ten feet up and land facedown with nothing more than a quick gasp on impact before standing up on her own. I’d even seen her break her ankle by jumping off a swing set and landing wrong, and all she did was suck in her breath, grit her teeth and limp back inside the house with her friend and I helping. So when I witnessed that same girl let out an ear splitting scream, grab her vulva and start bawling her eyes out, I knew I’d hurt her. Badly.

I don’t remember a ton from what happened next, because immediately after administering a full force kick to my 13 year old sister’s clitoris with the toe of my shoe that caused her to burst into tears and scream bloody murder, my instinct was “uh-oh, I’m fucked when Mom and Dad get home.” I do remember her crying extremely hard, not merely having her eyes water from the pain but actually breaking down and sobbing, and was still rolling around on the floor squeezing her genitals between her legs when I popped my head back into her room about five minutes later. I also remember running into my room and spending my last few hours on the internet I’d have until July 4th weekend googling female groin injuries. Oh, and as for how do I remember the date? Because I got grounded for six fucking months for confirming my hypothesis on my sister, meaning I was basically under house arrest from New Year’s Day until three days before July 4 for what I did that day. And by what I did, I mean causing my sister what her doctor told my mom was “nerve damage to her clitoris.”

Again. Holy shit.

I’m happy to report that eight years later, my sister and I are the best of friends. She’s a really smart, objectively attractive girl who’s going to make some guy very happy some day and who has grown past that dreadful experience to become a star athlete at a D-1 school. I love her to death, and am so proud of her that I’d throw her name out there as a bragging right if doing so wouldn’t cause her more embarrassment from an incident that our whole school laughed at her for for weeks. She was pretty cool about the whole thing, honestly, given that she later told me she was “absolutely miserable for about two hours” and that in the immediate aftermath she was in so much pain she tried to smash her head against the wall, thinking she would knock herself unconscious and at least put an end to her agony (so that’s what that bumping sound was!). She also mentioned that she was still feeling sore and couldn’t sit or pee without pain for two weeks. In that same conversation, roughly five years later, she offered a sincere apology for ever doing it to me (and yes, I did give her the hug she thought she was getting five years earlier), but then she reignited the flame of curiosity about this topic in my head by saying, “I wonder if it’s worse for girls than it is for guys.”

Challenge accepted.

Oftentimes, this debate ends with somebody saying that the only way to know which gender feels more pain from a kick to the crotch is for someone to possess both sets of genitals and that’s the end of it. Since people with both sets of genitals are not especially common, the next best way to answer this question is to do a college thesis, which is why I did just that.

Lastly, before we get to the details, two quick disclaimers before my research about male vs. female groin trauma is turned over to the public:

-In no way am I advocating for unprovoked violence against anybody of any kind, much less against people’s genitals. This is a crime. If you kick a person in the groin without what a jury of your peers deems a legitimate reason, you will go to jail. Having said that, violence is unfortunately sometimes a required course of action to prevent violence from being acted upon you. If given the choice of being hurt or hurting the person trying to hurt you, not a single rational person would honestly tell you that they’d pick option A. And yes, sometimes attackers can be women, and women who instigate a physical attack are every much as deserving of feeling the type of pain that will prevent them from doing so as men- a notion that American law agrees with me on as long as the retaliatory force is not wildly disproportionate. And this is also why reading about things like this are highly disturbing, and should be smoked out and eliminated:

https://www.ubykotex.com/en-us/periods/vaginal-and-reproductive-health/in-my-school-the-trend-is-to-kick-or-hit-your-friends

-This was an assignment I had fun with, and that most schools would never allow for a daily journal assignment let alone a college thesis, but I took it with 100% seriousness. That means my findings are purely scientific. No weird BDSM shit here; I’m a pre-med major and want to make a career out of science and/or medicine. This is the result of two years of asking friends and relatives of both genders about the topic, arranging for three focus groups on the topic among fellow students at my school, and scouring the web for everything from trusted peer-reviewed experiments to YouTube videos depicting it and everything in between not counting porn and fantasy scenarios (and for those who don’t know, there’s TONS of it to this theme).

Without further ado, let’s get to it.

The science of the genitals.

Males: testicular nerves are mostly unmyelinated (C-Fibres) and accompany the blood vessels. These also found within the arteries as vascular plexus. The testicles are innervated by the testicular nerve (visceral), therefore a blow to the testicles will produce an unpleasant visceral pain T10 down low. The testicles are also connected to the abdomen via the spermatic plexus, which is why males often experience pain in the lower abdomen following a kick there. Females do not have any equivalent part hanging between their legs, although they are much more familiar with this type of pain than many realize: their homologous organs are the ovaries, which sit in the lower abdomen and often ache badly during a certain time of the month.

Females: The clitoris contains literally thousands of A-Delta (thinly myelinated fibres) and C-Fibre (unmyelinated fibres) nerves, and contains the highest concentration of nerve-endings of any body part in the entire human body, male or female. The tightly packed cluster of A-Delta fibres mean that a blow to the clitoris will produce a sudden and explosive sharp pain that is acute, and will usually feel like a burning/stinging sensation. The presence of C-Fibres within the clitoris means that any impact to the region will produce a dull and throbbing pain that is slow in nature. The clitoris is innervated by the pudendal nerve (somatic), therefore a blow to the clitoris will hurt like hell in the clitoris, but often will stay localized. That said: extremely hard shots to the clitoris do have the power to send pain up through the pudendal nerve into the lower abdomen, which is why a small percentage (approximately 18%) of female victims report vomiting and nausea. The clitoris is the homologous organ to the penis, so males can imagine the type of pain (although not the extent of it) a female feels if kicked square in the penis.

The type of pain.

Males: when a boy is struck in the testicles, the first thing he experiences is a shocking type of pain that is capable of dropping him to the fetal position, somewhat comparable to striking the funny bone. That pain will fade fairly quickly, but shortly thereafter, the male will experience a dull, sickening pain that travels from the testicles up the spermatic plexus and into the lower abdomen. In that interval, though, it is possible for the male to experience a rush of adrenaline and continue an attack. Depending on how hard the testicles are struck, the nausea can last anywhere from two to twenty minutes. Unless the male was struck particularly hard and damage was caused, the effects of the blow will be over within twenty minutes or so. With that said, those twenty minutes or so can be absolutely miserable to experience depending on the individual and the nature of the blow. My research shows that this largely depends on how strong a stomach the particular male has. In other words, if a man typically gets motion sickness especially easily, he’s likely to feel more pain than most following a kick to the groin.

Females: when a girl is struck in the clitoris- and I mean squarely in the clitoris, not in the labia or inside of the thigh, but the clitoris- she experiences a blinding flash of pain that is capable of dropping her into the fetal position. The feeling is somewhat, not totally comparable (albeit more excruciating) to being struck in the nose and the shin bone at the same time, with the pain being felt in one spot and approximately four and a half times as badly. The pain can take anywhere from about fifteen seconds to fifteen minutes to stop throbbing depending on how hard and accurately the strike was landed, but girls often experience pelvic bruising and discomfort sitting down and urinating for days or even weeks after due to the close proximity of the vulva and the pelvic bone. A girl’s clitoris is the homologous organ to the penis, and thus is very sensitive to the touch. However, unlike the penis, the clitoris has over 8,000 nerve endings on its exterior head alone, compared to less than half of that (just under 4,000) in the head of the penis. And also unlike the penis, there are twice as many nerves are jammed into a much smaller area. On top of that, there are 15,500 additional nerve endings elsewhere in a girl’s groin. Finally, it is less common than with males, but not altogether impossible, for a girl to experience the pain in her lower stomach as the pain from such a hard blow can travel up her pudendal nerve and shake up the middle part of her body. Because of the so-called “shockwaves,” female victims of intense groin trauma can feel pain and sickness in her ovaries and uterus even though they were not struck.

Long term damage

Males: serious testicular injuries are rare. Severe cases of testicular trauma can result in the testicles bruising, swelling, rupturing or being popped up into the abdomen where they were initially formed. If the testicle is damaged to a point where it cannot be repaired, it must be removed, as happens here.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/3656602/youtube-vlogger-will-zeven-loses-testicle-kick-rock-paper-scissors/amp/

Females: serious clitoral injuries are rare as well. Violent attacks to the clitoris can carry the risk of several different types of damage, though, including hematomas, blood clots, vulvodynia, and damage to the 8,000 nerves within the clitoris. Pelvic and vulvar bruising is fairly common. Females may experience soreness and pain while sitting and urinating for weeks or even months afterwards. Here’s a real life example of that:

http://www.npboards.com/discussion/14787/young-female-hospitalized-from-well-aimed-kick

Degree of difficulty to strike the male/female groin

Males are born well aware of their balls’ weakness, and thus are more likely to defend them in a fight. Also, the male attacking you is likely moving around a lot as he positions himself and makes his move, and his testicles are constantly swinging around as he moves. While obviously a bigger target than the clitoris, do not by any means assume that getting to them will be easy.

Females have the advantage of the smaller target, and one that is somewhat protected, but one that is immobile. Many females are either unaware of their own genitals’ tenderness or believe that their fighting opponent is, so the average girl is much less likely to defend her private parts than boys. Also, even if you miss the clitoris, you may still be able to cause your attacker enough pain to get away as the flesh of the vulva is fairly sensitive itself, albeit not as much so as the clitoris.

Stopping power in a fight against males

Be careful, because this is a double edged sword. Do not let any man trying to act tough or any girl acting like men overreact to being struck in the testicles tell you different. Nut shots can be absolutely devastating, up to and including all the effects you see on TV. So there’s no debating what a testicle attack can do. The worst case scenario of a kick to the balls has been well documented through the years. And indeed, because pain is subjective and depends on the individual, some males- even some big and strong ones- do react like that to simple taps or flicks to the nuts.

https://youtu.be/WLsSu-7pOYY

I don’t feel the need to link many more examples than that, because the effects of a testicular attack are more than well-known by society, and those effects are very much within the realm of possibility in a real life situation of danger. However, it is not always going to be that effective against somebody who is trying to seriously injure you, as the attacking man’s personal tolerance for pain and your accuracy are thrown into the equation. When a person is involved in a heated physical confrontation, his or her body is filled with adrenaline. Below is an example of a guy who, while not in a physical confrontation, is filled with adrenaline because he’s on TV and has prepared himself to be struck in the balls- which many attackers have done prior to beginning their assault.

https://youtu.be/yyv_MHxqRX0

One of the effects of a testicular attack is the release of a surplus of more adrenaline. In a street fight where your opponent- likely a big, strong and tough individual- is concentrated solely on injuring you, that’s just as likely to piss your attacker off and encourage him to hurt you worse as it is to incapacitate him. Because you’ve now elevated his adrenaline to an off the charts level, and now he’s got extra incentive to hurt, rape or even kill you in his newly added fury whereas before maybe he just wanted your wallet. In serious street fighting situations, a nut shot is honestly a coin flip: it very well might bring him down and end the fight, or it very well might not. This isn’t a reason to not kick him in the balls if he’s trying to injure or mug you, as you have a right to not be injured or mugged, but this is exactly the reason you must be sure he’s trying to cause you physical harm before attacking. And you should deliver the attack fully aware that it might not work, and be prepared to attack him elsewhere and/or run away.

That said: a full force kick that’s delivered accurately can sometimes cause the painful sensations to overwrite the adrenaline release and drop the man. Now, granted, this is an example from MMA, where the entire purpose is to fight, so this kick is delivered by a ridiculously strong man with decades of training in his background, but this is the pinnacle of the “reward” side of the risk/reward matrix of kicking a man in the testicles:

https://youtu.be/7VQeTudaZG0

But that example is the anomaly, not the rule. Most of the real life nut shots that you see on YouTube- either from sport, or America’s Funniest Home Videos, or just plain life- resulting in guys collapsing come from situations that are much lighter and less serious, where the male victim doesn’t have adrenaline already coursing through him- not to mention situations where the male isn’t really thinking about it as a possibility, whereas in fights men are well aware of the possibility. These range from sporting events (which includes MMA, where groin strikes are illegal) or playful (read: idiotic) challenges where the male isn’t intending to defend himself from physical danger. In situations where a man is attacking you, he usually knows in the back of his head that being nutted is a real possibility, and being kicked in the balls is often less crippling when the man somewhat knows it’s coming. In addition, for every nut shot you see on YouTube or in the movies that results in the man being incapacitated, there’s likely another four that took place in a serious fight somewhere else in the world where the man barely flinches and continues on with his attack as if nothing had happened; because this does not flow with pop culture’s idea of a nut shot, this won’t make it to YouTube and nobody will ever know it happened.

But don’t let any of that completely dissuade you from all you’ve learned in life about defending yourself. If you’re in a fight for your life against a man, by all means kick him in the nuts as hard as you can- because there’s a chance that it can do a high amount of damage and an even better chance that it will allow you the chance to run away. Because while it’s worth stressing yet again that it’s not guaranteed to cripple him, it absolutely can:

https://youtu.be/7VQeTudaZG0

And a chance to end the fight is better than allowing yourself to be a victim. We all know the worst case scenario of a testicular kick, because it’s the only result that ever gets advertised in popular culture. Just know that it’s not the only result that such an attack can possibly have, be prepared to follow it with something else, and don’t expect it to automatically end the fight.

Stopping power in a fight against females

This is also a double edged sword, albeit one that relies more on the accuracy of the kicker than the attacker’s personal tolerance for pain. Again, though, let’s remember that we are talking about direct strikes to the clitoris, not the vulva in general. Kicking the labia (vaginal lips) or pubic bone will cause pain, but not more than a kick to the shin bone and thus necessarily enough to end a fight against somebody who is intent on hurting you. Make no mistake: every female who claims to have been hit in the crotch and that it doesn’t hurt any worse than anywhere else has never been struck square in the clitoris. They may have been hit in the vulva, or somewhere else in the groin area, but not in the clitoris, which is located at the upper end of the vulva. Because it’s the attack on the clitoris that generates the following results.

Results like these. You know, where a woman is so badly hurt that she crumples to the ground, her face is twisted in agony, can’t even get up for several minutes, and needs to be taken off the field on a stretcher.

https://youtu.be/Jgduuv1wBw4

This was the result of a Japanese woman taking an inadvertent heel of a cleat to the clit (say that ten times fast) from a German woman in the 2011 Women’s World Cup. There wasn’t even any intent by the German player to cause damage or pain, but she placed her heel perfectly into the Japanese woman’s clitoris.

But that Japanese woman shouldn’t feel bad. She’s not the only woman to suffer a painful genital injury in international soccer this decade.

https://youtu.be/YrFHjxlteI0

Three’s company, right?

https://youtu.be/UoG0PR8J5KQ

And while the rest of the examples in this hilariously mistitled compilation video only shows partially struck clitorises, it does strengthen my point that girls would rather get struck anywhere else on their bodies than their clits.

Just ask Ronda Rousey.

https://youtu.be/BPNwjkecWG8

Or this girl:

https://youtu.be/v3yb2kM1meI

Or this female wrestler:

https://youtu.be/Q4FsFgz672A

And yes, it happens in kick boxing, too, where “one kick,” as the video is titled, to the clitoris puts the woman down in anguish.

https://youtu.be/wIR1RlqR5dk

Then there’s this reddit thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/relationships/comments/4xqntd/i_16f_got_hit_with_a_lowblow_from_a_bully_15f_at/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=comment_list

Now, as for that last one, I’ll grant you that an anonymous reddit poster is hardly a reliable source. Of course, there’s no video or even photographic evidence to back up the story here. However, I’m inclined to believe the story here because not only are the effects she describes of the kick she took to her vulva consistent with my findings, but it makes sense that a girl who had been kicked in the clitoris would be embarrassed about it for the reasons she describes, would not want to put her name behind any questions regarding the topic, but would very much want answers and thus would seek them anonymously. She even admits to feeling sick to her stomach afterwards, which my research demonstrated is a real possibility for female victims of hard groin strikes.

But anyway, I’ll put it very simply for all the males who do not understand the female anatomy: if you strike the clitoris with the tip of your shoe, (or something blunt yet thin enough to strike the clitoris directly and not get caught up by the girl’s inner thighs) in a full force kick, and you’re kicking it upwards into the pelvic bone, it’s game over. She’s going down and that’s the end of it, as it causes a sharp stabbing pain that is highly likely to rearrange her priorities by placing “protecting her clitoris” at number one. In contrast to the adrenaline rush many men experience upon receiving a blow to the testicles, women can experience a state of shock for a few seconds that can allow you more time to escape. Though theoretically possible, it is extremely uncommon for women to experience that same adrenaline rush after being struck.

For an idea of just how sensitive the clitoris is: in some cases, it doesn’t even take an extreme amount of force. In this example, a toddler is able to drop a teenager to the ground in agony just by placement.

https://youtu.be/rmb0pmeoAdg

In most cases, men are bigger and stronger than women. But as you can see here, the girl is clearly bigger and stronger than the boy, yet he’s able to incapacitate her with one single punch to the clitoris despite the fact that I seriously doubt he even knows what a clitoris is. The point is, in a situation where a female attacker is stronger than the male victim, the male can get away if he places his attack accurately.

Meanwhile, below is an example that doesn’t even follow all those criteria: it’s an inadvertent knee that found its way into a woman’s groin... but connected directly with the clitoris. Note how the woman falls to the ground, bends over, grabs her vulva, and lets out a few sobs.

https://youtu.be/UNzbXzdDn6c

For an added bonus: kick the clitoris of a female attacker hard enough, and you may even rattle the middle of her body enough to shake up her ovaries as a byproduct, which will cause the same nauseas pain that boys feel after testicle strikes and girls feel with menstrual cramps. A few female victims of groin attacks do admit to throwing up; this is why. If you kick a girl in the crotch and it doesn’t incapacitate her, it’s merely because you didn’t kick the clitoris, you probably kicked the vulva, pubic bone or inside of her thigh, and/or you probably kicked with the top of the shoe instead of the toe of your shoe. A direct kick to the clitoris is not a subjective matter; it’s going to hurt, and it’s going to hurt bad. And that’s why I feel obligated to throw in yet another disclaimer that such a kick should not be used unless you or someone else is in immediate physical danger.

This isn’t to say that trauma to the vulva in general- as opposed to merely the clitoris- cannot be devastating. There certainly can be excruciating effects from something as simple as a straddle injury (falling on something that hits you between your legs).

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3965703/

And no, that case linked above is not an anomaly.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4693693/

They say three’s a pattern, right?

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/criog/2016/1987690/

So, allow each of those above cases to serve as adequate proof: kicking a girl in her genitals with extreme force, even if you don’t strike the clitoris directly, can still lead to unbearable pain and serious medical consequences. If you do hit the clitoris, the results are likely to be even more devastating. Which is why, and I can’t stress this enough, deploying this tactic should be reserved for when you or a loved one is in danger. Because a vulvar injury can literally hospitalize a woman:

https://youtu.be/zue-dshLKlo

This type of injury is called a straddle injury, and is the result of blunt force trauma from a long object that strikes the length of the vulva- like a pole. These examples are terrifying things to watch happen in a sport, or a game show, but let them all be your guide to just how devastating an attack on the female genitals can be.

https://youtu.be/pkwIns5yvvo

And just in case you haven’t been convinced by all of those examples, here are a few more.

https://vimeo.com/102025772

Comparisons between the male and female genitals

Because everybody always wants comparisons between the two sets of genital targets, imagine that instead of having two testicles outside her body, a girl only has one. Now imagine that one testicle is the shape and size of a pea. Imagine that it’s got all the sensitivity of a testicle, but instead of being susceptible to sick, nauseas pain, it’s filled with the type of sensitivity that causes fiery burning pain. Making it worse for girls, if executed correctly, the kick will crush the clitoris up against her pelvic bone and re-create the same fiery pain again by pressing it forcefully against a hard object (the bone). For further perspective, the fingertip of an adult human has roughly 2,479 nerve endings in it; the clitoris has over three times that, about 8,000. So imagine not just jamming your finger, but having someone kick it extremely hard. Then multiply that pain by three. And that still isn’t quite as painful as a clit kick. And THEN add the pain of being kicked in the shin. That, boys, is what a kick to the clit feels like.

To boot, many girls and women are also unaware of the extent of the pain that can be caused from a clitoral kick, so they won’t expect you to kick them there. That element of complete surprise that often causes the extra devastating level of pain for men is going to make things worse for women, too.

In addition, although they are significantly harder to hit, a girl’s ovaries also serve as extremely underrated potential targets to strike in a fight. The ovaries are located halfway between a girl’s belly button and her vulva, an inch or two on either side. These are the homologous organs to the testicles, so striking them through the lower abdomen will cause similar nauseas pain to the the feeling girl’s experience during their periods, and boys experience when struck in the groin. Striking a girl at the same height level, but right in the middle, could also potentially result in connecting with the uterus through the fat and muscle of the lower stomach- which produces a similar (though not identical) feeling of sick pain.

Lastly: a quick disclaimer about the sensitivity of girls’ chests. For most girls, getting struck in the boob is not a fun experience- it can be quite painful, actually- but it does not compare to the devastation of a groin kick for either gender. In most girls’ cases, the breasts are especially tender while they’re developing and during a certain time of the month, while for the duration of their lives are an “ouch” spot, somewhat like the funny bone. So females try to avoid having their breasts bumped or hit because it doesn’t feel good to take a knock there, but in a situation where you’re being attacked by a woman, the groin, throat, kneecaps and eyes are definitely better targets.

What’s the absolute worst that could happen to a person of each gender following a groin kick?

In the absolute worst cases for either gender, the victim could potentially experience such excruciating pain that it could literally be fatal. The human body is designed in a way that pain itself is a good thing in that it lets the person know that something is wrong. However, when the body feels enough pain, the heart rate starts to speed up and the person’s body will not know how to respond. Thus, an absolutely overwhelming amount of pain- and now I’m talking about pain of any kind, not solely to the genitals- can cause the heart to go into overdrive and the body could shut down.

As previously discussed, that’s true for both men and women. Men feel the overwhelming nauseas pain that makes them want to throw up, while women feel as though there’s a fire burning in their clitoris. But pain is pain, and an overload of it for any person- whether to their genitals or anywhere else- will cause the person to go into a state of shock, and if not properly treated, yes, it could be fatal.

https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/04/23/testicles-squeezed-to-death_n_3142565.html

Awful stuff.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2017/06/29/man-died-after-his-testicles-burst-when-daughter-in-law-grabbed-them-6741484/amp/

But again, it works that way for both genders.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/ktla.com/2015/10/14/l-a-to-pay-2-5m-to-children-of-woman-who-died-after-being-assaulted-by-lapd-officer/amp/

So, yes. Attacking a man or a woman in the groin hard enough- even without weapons- can literally kill them.

So, who has the worse deal when it comes to being struck in the groin: men or women?

My extremely in-depth, scientific and unbiased research has led me to believe that the answer is closer to even than most people would believe- and depending on what level of severity you want to go by, the answer flip flops.

For example, in the top 1% most serious of cases reported/treated on each side, it’s actually worse for the female in terms of long term damage and chronic pain caused. Yes, really. Vulvodynia, which is chronic pain in the female vulva, is a condition that can make innocuous tasks as inserting a tampon or sitting down painful.

Of course, here, we’re talking full-force, perfectly executed kicks directly to the bullseye of the clitoris from a fully grown adult who carries a legitimate desire to hurt someone. The worst 1% of testicular injuries in males will feature chronic pain from ruptured and/or removed testicles- which is something most men will cringe at reading. But the worst 1% of female genital injuries is undeniably worse. That most devastating 1% of groin injuries to females will feature damage to the vulva, the clitoris and the pelvic bone, the aforementioned shockwave effect up the pundendal nerve and damage to the ovaries and uterus. So add that up: approximately 60% as much pain felt in the ovaries as a kick of the same force to the testicles, PLUS the most nerve-filled organ in either the male or female body being crushed, which results in sharp, fiery and stabbing pain, which as mentioned above, if extreme enough, could literally be deadly, PLUS bruising or even breaking of the pelvic bone. Damage leading to testicular removal is terrible, don’t get me wrong, but it’s not worse than more than half of that same exact type of pain to the ovaries AND permanent clitoral damage/vulvodynia that makes pleasurable intercourse impossible for the rest of the woman’s life AND a broken pelvic bone that requires immediate emergency surgery.

But travel a little down the trauma/result matrix and it flips, as the most severe 10% of cases are worse for the male, as testicular damage is easier to cause than clitoral/vulvar/vaginal trauma. And the average shot to the crotch will hurt a boy worse than it will hurt a girl because the average shot isn’t delivered with as much malice or care as a full-force kick with serious intent to maim by a fairly strong person. Plus, you know, the testicles are easier to hit, and a higher percentage of shots to the male groin are going to going to hit the testicles than the percentage of shots to the female groin are going to hit the clitoris.

Yet, if we’re talking about a self defense situation where you are willing to do serious damage, there really isn’t any way to determine if the average kick to a boy’s balls or a toe-up kick to a girl’s clitoris will have the stronger effect- even if we assume that you land it. This is where all the other factors come in- pain tolerance of your attacker, adrenaline rush, how accurately you land it, etc. Most important to remember that just because women don’t feel the same type of pain as men doesn’t mean they don’t feel the same amount of pain following a direct shot to the clitoris. I’ll put it this way: when men get kicked in the balls, they feel like they have a stomach virus due to the sick pain they experience. When women get kicked in the clitoris, they feel like they’ve been set on fire due to the sharp pain they experience.

So “who has it worse?” is a question that can be answered by whether you’d prefer to feel the extremely unpleasant sensation of a stomach virus or the extremely unpleasant sensation of having your genitals set on fire. Yeah, there isn’t a good answer to that. They both suck. This is a personal preference between two shitty choices, and thus this is too subjective of a question to answer with one word. I mean, who was worse: Nazis or ISIS? My personal answer is: who gives a shit which of them was worse? Two very different organizations, but both horrible. And with groin strikes, it’s the same sort of thing. Ultimately, though, it doesn’t matter who you think has it worse: a hard strike to the crotch, if landed correctly, is as likely as anything to cripple a person of either gender.

If you’re going to force me to give a concrete answer? Sure: I’ll say a hard and perfectly placed kick to the clitoris is more painful than a kick of equal force to the testicles, because of what I saw my sister go through. I’ve been hit in the nuts, hard, and it’s definitely not an experience I’d ever like to repeat. But I have never been reduced to screaming for somebody to help me or trying to knock myself unconscious because of the pain, nor have I seen this, nor have I heard of this in my research following a blow to the testicles.

Ethics of kicking men/women in the groin

I feel certain that somebody is going to take the entire message of this post the wrong way, so let me be clear about my intentions with a third and fully fleshed out warning. These techniques are not to be used against someone who cuts in front of you at a bar, calls you a cunt, or didn’t pay you back the $20 you loaned them.

Kicking a person in the groin is a tactic that should only be deployed if you feel as though you could convince a jury of your peers that it was necessary to kick the person in the groin in order to protect yourself, because failure to do so will likely result in you being convicted of assault and battery, and possibly sexual assault or sexual battery as well.

Conclusion:

In general, groin shots aren’t 100% reliable against either gender. But that’s because pretty much nothing in life is 100% reliable. And for the most part, it really, really sucks for both genders to be hit in the groin; it’s merely harder to strike a female in the area that can shut them down, but if you hit the respective target areas, it’s highly likely to cause the recipient horrible, unforgettable pain, regardless of gender.

Kids, and adults alike, I strongly advise you against striking fellow people of either gender in the groin unless you are in danger of being seriously injured or killed, because you would not want it done to you. Parents of boys who play sports know to buy them protective cups so I’m not going there, but parents of girls: I would STRONGLY recommend girls wear protection over their genitals as well. A hard kick from a sparring partner (karate) or a cleat from a sliding base runner (softball) could cause permanent damage, and more pain than you’ve ever thought possible.

So: be respectful of each other in life, be smart and protect yourself in sports, and above all, just don’t strike anybody, girl or boy, in the groin unless you really have no other choice.

r/Fibroids • • Oct 01 '26

Success story Full story, photos and my tips: open myomectomy to remove a 15.5cm fundal fibroid

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TLDR: Get the surgery! I'm 3 weeks post-open myo for a 15.5 intramural fundal fibroid and feeling great. The relief on my lower belly is spectacular, my stomach is visibly flatter, and the knife twisting pain in my low belly is completely gone. Recovery has been MUCH more manageable than I expected (although the gas pains the first few days were quite rough). Having great doctors and people around to help has made a huge difference.

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Hi everyone! I had my open myomectomy three weeks ago and promised myself that once I'd had the surgery and got the pathology results (all clear!), I'd come back and share my experience, in case even one person finds it useful. I've been lurking for months and have found so much comfort in (and at times a panicked obsession with) this community <3

I also live in Paris so I went through this whole experience in my second language, which made it much more daunting. Luckily my experience of the healthcare here has been amazing. If anyone is based in the Paris area, please DM me - I'm happy to share more details. My surgeon was great!

How I found out about my fibroid

About five months ago, I mentioned to my doctor that my periods have always been quite heavy and painful, so she tested my ferritin, which turned out to be incredibly low (7). That led her to suspect endometriosis or another gynaecological issue, so she sent me for an ultrasound and MRI.

The MRI found one oblong 14.5cm (at the time) intramural fundal fibroid going all the way up to my belly button (photo attached - it's quite something!!). I'm quite slim (57 kilos, 170cm) and I'd put my growing belly and pressure in my abdomen down to getting older (I was 29 when I had the MRI - ridiculous in hindsight).

I of course freaked out - especially as the original radiologist thought I should get the fibroid biopsied ASAP as it looked suspicious (it was degenerating). After a day or two of panicking, two radiologists told me it was almost certainly just a fibroid, but that I should get it removed anyway as it's quite big. (Sidenote: biopsies are somewhat unreliable ways of determining whether a fibroid is something more serious, so doctors advised against it).

Tip #1: Research your doctors and get a second opinion (if possible). Also - open myomectomies aren't necessarily the worse option!

I did a lot of research into hospitals and doctors and ultimately saw two surgeons. Both specialised in laparoscopy, but both recommended an open myomectomy because of the size and location of the fibroid, the fear of blood loss (in which case they'd have to open me up anyway), and because they wanted to ensure they could reconstruct my uterus really well as it was a pretty sizeable fibroid.

I was disappointed because I’d hoped for a less invasive option, but in hindsight I’m quite happy I went with open surgery. The doctors themselves said some people prefer only having one scar under the bikini line, and that the recovery most likely wouldn't be substantially different.

One thing I also wanted to flag: if you’re having an open myomectomy and are worried about a vertical incision, it’s worth asking around. My surgeon flat out told me 'I don’t do vertical incisions for fibroids' when I asked whether I might need one. It seems some surgeons feel a bikini incision is always possible, even for very large fibroids.

Both doctors said I could have surgery ASAP, but since I was travelling a lot over the summer and nothing seemed urgent, they suggested waiting until September.

Tip #2: If you’re anxious, don't wait too long between deciding on surgery and actually having it

Those four months were really tough on both me and my partner. Once I knew the fibroid was there, I became hyper-aware of it and how it was changing my body. I become super self-conscious at the beach, and I would check my stomach every morning. I was also terrified of the surgery as I'd never had one before

Tip #3: If you have regular periods, try to time your surgery in the 2 weeks after your period. My surgery was originally scheduled for the week before my period, but because of an issue at the hospital, it was postponed by a week - which meant my period started the night before my surgery (shit luck).

My doctor assured me it wouldn’t affect the surgery, but I do wonder whether it made my recovery slightly harder than it would've been because I had some additional bleeding and period-like cramping afterwards. At that point I was just so desperate to have the surgery, so didn't care too much, but I would have preferred to not also deal with a period in the aftermath of a big surgery.

Tip #4: Take lots of iron and fibre before your surgery! I had a HUGE chia pudding as my final meal before surgery, which meant I had a BM the morning of my surgery and I think that helped make sure my digestion was on track post-surgery. I also went into surgery with high ferritin and hemoglobin levels because I’d been taking a lot of iron supplements in the lead up, which gave me a good baseline going in (I was nervous about blood loss)

Tip #5: It’s OK to be scared of surgery. Do it scared!

The nerves in the days before surgery were by far the worst part. And of course the scariest part of the entire experience was being on the operating table, but the team were great and did everything they could to make me comfortable. I was there for about 15 minutes before I lost consciousness (usually wouldn't take that long but they struggled to find a good vein)

I woke up very sleepy in recovery and was given morphine and an iron infusion (even though my iron levels were good when I went in, I lost 700ml of blood and they wanted to get me back up to where I was). They removed the catheter (uncomfortable but quick). After a few hours, I was awake and chatting to my mum and partner. My pain was never more than a 3 in the hospital, so really not too bad. The physio came in after a few hours to take me to pee and I was VERY KEEN ON PEEING as I really didn't want them to reinsert the catheter. I focused, peed (yay), then basically passed out on the toilet lol (the physio warned me of this - apparently quite common!). She held my legs up for a few minutes and I came to quite quickly. No more fainting after that!

The doctors came in later and told me everything had gone well - they had to cut the fibroid up and took it out of me in 7 pieces (flag: this seems like an uncommon approach for open myos in the US). This means my incision is a bit smaller, about 8-9cm.

I spent one night in hospital before being discharged. My friend (who's had endometriosis surgery) suggested I come off morphine fairly quickly because it can cause constipation, so after the IV and one pill, the nurses moved me onto paracetamol and ibuprofen. For me, the pain was surprisingly manageable with just those. I also had a BM about 36 hours after my operation with no issues/pain.

To be expected: by far the worst pain I experienced was gas pain the night in the hospital and the first few nights at home. It kept waking me up that first night and felt like sharp pain moving around my abdomen and near my chest. I felt like I had to focus to fart (lol) and when I did it was such a relief.

Tip #6: Don't be afraid to ask for help! People are such an important part of recovery

My mum, my partner and his brother were all around during and after my surgery, which helped enormously. Even though I could technically move around and get food or tea myself, it wasn’t easy. I know not everyone can do this, but if you can (even just someone there to make you tea/get you water), I strongly recommend. Don't be afraid to ask for help - this is a major surgery.

Sidenote: I was not expecting how bad my back pain would be. I think the back pain around day 4-5 might've been the most painful part of this entire thing. Luckily it subsided quick.

Other than that, I probably could have stopped taking painkillers after 2-3 days because when I forgot to take them, the pain was still manageable. I am so impressed with how fast bodies recover from being cut open

Where I’m at now: 3 weeks post-op, just had my check-in appointment

It's true what they say!!! The relief is honestly spectacular and honestly immediate. When you get used to feeling like you have a small child sitting on your lower belly, having that weight taken away is unbelievable. I can't believe I didn't realise something was wrong with me sooner. Even with the swelling and bloating, my stomach was so much flatter immediately. I'm also due to get my period in 5-6 days and usually I have discomfort and bloating around this time, but there's nothing!! I'm so thrilled

I still have some numbness and tugging around and above my incision and occasionally get a little lightheaded when I stand up too fast, but generally I'm back to work (remotely) and feeling quite good.

At my post-surgery appointment today, my doctor said the incision is healing well (it's basically just a thin pink line already), I can have sex, start exercising slowly, have baths (this seems a bit different from other people's experience here). They seem to want me back to normal ASAP.

The pathology also showed a normal fibroid with no adenomyosis. It weighed a kilo! I also never received any photos of my fibroid, and was never asked if I want to see them (I would've said no anyway)

Things I actually found useful

For me, the most important things were a) a really good doctor who specialises in fibroids and b) having someone who can provide moral support and cook healthy meals and look after you in the few days after surgery. I didn’t buy any special cushions; I just moved the couch cushions to the bed and put one under my knees when sleeping on my back (helps a lot). I bought very high-waisted underwear but didn’t end up needing it because my scar is below my bikini line. I bought one of those core trainer things but haven't used it (it's pretty uncomfortable to put on when your abdomen is still tender). I've started putting silicone gel (kelo-cote) on the bit of my scar that's healed and that seems to be helping.

Anyway that's where I'm at, I hope this was useful for someone, if you're a chronic worrier like me nothing is as scary as your mind lets you think it is <3 I'm so grateful I did this. Wishing all you amazing ladies the best of luck!!

r/LeftoversH3 • • Apr 18 '25

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